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MrBottomTooth 01-25-2011 08:21 AM

Canada moving to "metered" Internet service
 
This is really a bad idea. We already get screwed on our ridiculously-priced cell phone data plans and now they want to do it to our Internet connections as well.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle1881250/

:mad:

Petitions usually do nothing, but I signed this one, just in case:

http://openmedia.ca/meter

seeandsee 01-25-2011 08:25 AM

they want to control all

marketsmart 01-25-2011 08:26 AM

Canadians are not known for being the smartest of people... :2 cents:






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PR_Glen 01-25-2011 08:27 AM

that will never pass.. crtc has been a menace in canada for years, they should be decommissioned... they are so out of touch its embarrassing.

No politician will go for this unless they want to get lynched by the ever growing Canadian internet population...

stillsexy 01-25-2011 08:28 AM

from capitalism, to socialism, now to communism

MrBottomTooth 01-25-2011 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 17867931)
Canadians are not known for being the smartest of people... :2 cents:



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http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4083/...69d1d1be72.jpg

moeloubani 01-25-2011 08:29 AM

Ugh...signed the petition, I'll be making sure next election that this is an issue I follow up on. Enough of this Rogers or Bell BS let's get some other companies in Canada so shit like this can't happen.

ajrocks 01-25-2011 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 17867931)
Canadians are not known for being the smartest of people... :2 cents:


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Yes unlike Americans who love George W and think Sarah Palin is smart.

Rochard 01-25-2011 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajrocks (Post 17868374)
Yes unlike Americans who love George W and think Sarah Palin is smart.

No one thinks that, do they?

BlackCrayon 01-25-2011 11:19 AM

don't most already do this? i know if i go over 60 gigs with rogers they'll charge me something like 3 bucks per gig.

flashfire 01-25-2011 11:24 AM

shaw gives 100 gigs....if its that kinda number its not really an issue

Phoenix 01-25-2011 11:26 AM

you only need max 5gbs unless you are downloading movies all day

with 100 gbs you are fine

_Richard_ 01-25-2011 11:30 AM

dear lord. signed and posted to facebook

Itchy 01-25-2011 11:55 AM

Bunch of fucking crooks, Bell will push hard for it I bet !

Klen 01-25-2011 11:58 AM

Wait no flatrate on internet in Canada?

Dirty Dane 01-25-2011 12:05 PM

Can't the ISPs offer plans freely?

"Unmetered" with instant boost is the way :)

Barefootsies 01-25-2011 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth (Post 17867938)


JFK 01-25-2011 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Itchy (Post 17868494)
Bunch of fucking crooks, Bell will push hard for it I bet !

absolutely, sounds like a marrige made in heaven, Bell and metered service:winkwink:

Itchy 01-25-2011 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 17868437)
dear lord. signed and posted to facebook

You sign up for this yet ?
http://www.shaw.ca/en-ca/ProductsSer...The+Fasternet/
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Have you heard? Shaw is bringing unheard of speeds to the Canadian market through exciting trials of our 1 Gigabit Internet service. This service launched in select Vancouver neighbourhoods in June ? and Pinebrook, a suburb west of Calgary, will be the latest area to try out the 1 Gigabit Internet service FREE for six months starting in September!

GatorB 01-25-2011 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flashfire (Post 17868422)
shaw gives 100 gigs....if its that kinda number its not really an issue

Yeah except if you try to watch Netflix or Hulu or something like that.

PR_Glen 01-25-2011 12:40 PM

i can't believe they are considering this... If anything they should iron out Canada's monopoly problems before they touch the internet...

Paul Markham 01-25-2011 12:44 PM

What's wrong with it?

Heavy users pay more. Light users pay less.

Like every other service.

Sucks if you're a heavy user downloading Bit Torrents, great if you're a light user logging on to get a few emails.

Ross 01-25-2011 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17868617)
What's wrong with it?

Heavy users pay more. Light users pay less.

Like every other service.

Sucks if you're a heavy user downloading Bit Torrents, great if you're a light user logging on to get a few emails.

Not really, the internet in Canada is already over priced as it is. I lived in Malta June 2009 till June 2010. Internet was 35 euros a month for 10mbit, quite pricey and it cut out like once a week for an hour.

In Canada, I pay $48 for 14mbit, cheaper than Malta, but it's only because I have a package for TV too.

In Scotland, you pay about $50 a month for 50mbit connection.

I don't know how Scotland can offer cheaper internet than Canada.

MrBottomTooth 01-25-2011 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 17868429)
you only need max 5gbs unless you are downloading movies all day

with 100 gbs you are fine

You musn't have kids.

Lamis 01-25-2011 12:56 PM

interesting.. now FRIS aka Chris MCGAY is going to be pissed. lol...

It will affect his dirty blackhat tecniques for sure. hehe.

MrBottomTooth 01-25-2011 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17868617)
What's wrong with it?

Heavy users pay more. Light users pay less.

Like every other service.

Sucks if you're a heavy user downloading Bit Torrents, great if you're a light user logging on to get a few emails.

They won't make the light users pay less.

And the whole point of this is that Bell and Shaw are scared of companies like Netflix. Download all the movies you want for a small monthly fee, or pay $4.99 for a single movie on their competing Bell or StarChoice or cable offerings.

Basically you have a monopoly trying to keep things a monopoly by stifling competition.

Sid70 01-25-2011 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 17867932)
that will never pass.. crtc has been a menace in canada for years, they should be decommissioned... they are so out of touch its embarrassing.

No politician will go for this unless they want to get lynched by the ever growing Canadian internet population...

pls, elaborate on that, what would be done if that thing passes, how can you stop government doign so in Canada?

alf6300 01-25-2011 02:25 PM

i blame canada for this!

MediaGuy 01-25-2011 02:53 PM

Already pay enough for access and overage - wtf - I signed. Twittered. Facebooked. What else?

:D

Elli 01-25-2011 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ross (Post 17868642)
Not really, the internet in Canada is already over priced as it is. I lived in Malta June 2009 till June 2010. Internet was 35 euros a month for 10mbit, quite pricey and it cut out like once a week for an hour.

In Canada, I pay $48 for 14mbit, cheaper than Malta, but it's only because I have a package for TV too.

In Scotland, you pay about $50 a month for 50mbit connection.

I don't know how Scotland can offer cheaper internet than Canada.

Because Scotland is tiny and stringing wires and broadcasting across the Great White North is extremely expensive due to our relatively sparse population and hostile environment?

Just a guess.

bronco67 01-25-2011 04:14 PM

I don't know... wouldn't the only people that get mad about this be the ones downloading 20 Gb of Blu ray movies per day?

If I use less bandwidth, why shouldn't I pay less than leeches that want to suck up everything they can download every second of the fucking day? I don't pay the same amount for my electricity that the local supermarket does, because I don't use as much -- why should the internet be any different?

Also, pirates don't like to pay extra for anything. I doubt they'll download all of those illegal torrents if they know it'll cost an extra 50 bucks a month.

LukeMoney 01-25-2011 04:14 PM

Wow that would suck, so much for Netflix and their downloadable movies?

garce 01-25-2011 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth (Post 17867916)
This is really a bad idea. We already get screwed on our ridiculously-priced cell phone data plans and now they want to do it to our Internet connections as well.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle1881250/

:mad:

Petitions usually do nothing, but I signed this one, just in case:

http://openmedia.ca/meter

Its already there. I signed up for Bell's "Fibe" service after getting fucked for being one of the first people to sign up for their DSL servince in 2000.

Ten years later, I start getting $60 overage charges. Hey! We'll be able to compete with the world as long as we have oil sands and baby seals to kill. Fuck the future!

Someone should pound the living shit out of this country before it dies from selling off its natural resources. Except for pounding out shit for American corporations, we completely missed the the industrial revolution. We still live off selling whale blubber, fish, and animal skins. Technological advancements? That's just a way for our pathetic monopolies to milk us for every cent we have.

There is no more backwards nation on the face of the Earth.

kaori 01-25-2011 10:41 PM

Shaw actually reduced their cap last month.. It used to be 125gb..
Then they shrunk it to 100gb, and will now start charging a per gb overage in April...

They want to continue making money with their 'pay per movie' and cable tv service, and reduce the temptation to use netflix (which was just introduced in Canada a few months ago...).
I don't think the average user knows how big a netflix movie is, and will worry that they might blow through their limit after watching a few downloads...

It's completely a cash grab - last quarter they had record profits:
"Shaw beat expectations on headline earnings before taxes and other expenses as well as revenue, which topped $473 million and $1.08 billion each for the quarter."

facialfreak 01-26-2011 01:58 AM

My Videotron Ultimate30 (30mbps) package is actually increasing my cap from 100 gigs to 125 gigs as of February 1 ...

Machete_ 01-26-2011 02:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by facialfreak (Post 17869977)
My Videotron Ultimate30 (30mbps) package is actually increasing my cap from 100 gigs to 125 gigs as of February 1 ...

125 gigs? that's like 4 bluray torrents (average HD movie is 30gig)

stupid canucks

:1orglaugh

GatorB 01-26-2011 03:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17868617)
What's wrong with it?

Heavy users pay more.

If you think 100 GB is heavy you're crazy. If you think $2-$3 per GB for overage is "fair" your crazy. Did have you ever have paid for hosting? Does it cost you $2 if someone sues 2 GB of data on your site? Hell no. And you're just website owner. Now think about a whole fucking ISP. No way does it cost them more than 10 cents per GB, to send 1 GB of data. So why are they charging 20X-30X that for overage?

Quote:

Like every other service.
If you honestly think that's how it will work you're crazy. Do you think ligheer users that are now paying $50 or more a month are usddenly going to have their bills dropped to $10-$15 a month to reflect thier light useage? HA!

Quote:

Sucks if you're a heavy user downloading Bit Torrents,
Not everyone using more than 50 GB is a illegal file share-er.

for example

Watching just ONE HD movie form Netflix a day = 75 GB per month
Watching just one hour a day of Hulu in 720p HD = 20 GB per month

Is this excessive? Major League Baseball has a streming package tha allows me to watch all my Rays games in HD on my PC. If I watch just one game a day that's over 100 GB in a month. How is that excessive? I'm paying over $100 a season and if I dare to use my subscription just ONCE a day I'm being excessive?

Say you have a family of husband wife 2-3 kids. Doing just normal stuff like watching youtube, Netflix, Hulu, playing XBOX 360 or PS3 online, listing to streaming radio is going to EASILY put you over 100 GB a month.

Quote:

great if you're a light user logging on to get a few emails.
If one is a light user then WTF is the point of having 50 Mbps service?

Paul Markham 01-26-2011 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ross (Post 17868642)
Not really, the internet in Canada is already over priced as it is. I lived in Malta June 2009 till June 2010. Internet was 35 euros a month for 10mbit, quite pricey and it cut out like once a week for an hour.

In Canada, I pay $48 for 14mbit, cheaper than Malta, but it's only because I have a package for TV too.

In Scotland, you pay about $50 a month for 50mbit connection.

I don't know how Scotland can offer cheaper internet than Canada.

So all countries should charge the same? :upsidedow

GatorB and Ross welcome to the world of free enterprise.

Grapesoda 01-26-2011 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seeandsee (Post 17867926)
they want to control all

make more money

pornguy 01-26-2011 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ross (Post 17868642)
Not really, the internet in Canada is already over priced as it is. I lived in Malta June 2009 till June 2010. Internet was 35 euros a month for 10mbit, quite pricey and it cut out like once a week for an hour.

In Canada, I pay $48 for 14mbit, cheaper than Malta, but it's only because I have a package for TV too.

In Scotland, you pay about $50 a month for 50mbit connection.

I don't know how Scotland can offer cheaper internet than Canada.

Quit complaining. I pay 150$ US for 6 megs down which is normally about 4 down and 786K up. Its a business class DSL.. for anything faster is a 1.5 down and up for 1k a month


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