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BFT3K 03-04-2011 12:00 PM

Jon Stewart Nails Fox News Hypocrisy
 
This segment was great last night.

Here is the story, with a video link....

http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo...ls.php?ref=fpi

Sarah_Jayne 03-04-2011 12:09 PM

He has been on fire lately.

MaDalton 03-04-2011 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17957640)
This segment was great last night.

Here is the story, with a video link....

http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo...ls.php?ref=fpi

Jon Stewart - the only voice of reason

12clicks 03-04-2011 12:13 PM

stewart is an idiot.
he's comparing the overpaid public sector unions with the failed attempt to single out a small portion of tax payers for a tax increase?

he's an idiot and so are the people who think he's right.

TheDoc 03-04-2011 12:21 PM

Funny.....

The sad part isn't that fox news actually spews this trash and gets away with it, day after day and year after year, no, no... that isn't the sad part. The sad part is all the sheep that listen to them and actually take in the trash they spew as fact.

TheDoc 03-04-2011 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 17957674)
stewart is an idiot.
he's comparing the overpaid public sector unions with the failed attempt to single out a small portion of tax payers for a tax increase?

he's an idiot and so are the people who think he's right.

He's an idiot? You're the one that failed to understand what the comparison was actually about. :1orglaugh

BFT3K 03-04-2011 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17957692)
Funny.....

The sad part isn't that fox news actually spews this trash and gets away with it, day after day and year after year, no, no... that isn't the sad part. The sad part is all the sheep that listen to them and actually take in the trash they spew as fact.

http://www.FetishSoup.com/GFY/FoxWashed.jpg

woj 03-04-2011 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17957719)
He's an idiot? You're the one that failed to understand what the comparison was actually about. :1orglaugh

comparing unions to taxes is like comparing apples to oranges... they are completely separate issues... he might as well have thrown foreign policy issues into the comparison as well... :2 cents:

2MuchMark 03-04-2011 12:36 PM

I saw it. Brilliant piece as usual.

It's clear to me that Republicans and Fox news want to keep the nation STUPID. Think about it. Cutting funding for school and teachers while simultaneously electing idiots like Bush, Palin, Bachmann, O'Donnell etc into office preaching gross financial, political and scientific inaccuracies, and being backed up by fucktards like O'reilly, Beck and other assholes at Fox News. Just amazing.

DavidMichaels 03-04-2011 12:36 PM

John stewart should be shot in the face

BFT3K 03-04-2011 02:21 PM

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12clicks 03-04-2011 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 17957738)
preaching gross financial, political and scientific inaccuracies,

gross financial inaccuracies?
like what?

2MuchMark 03-04-2011 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 17958035)
gross financial inaccuracies?
like what?

You're kidding, right?

Here's an example..


TheDoc 03-04-2011 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by woj (Post 17957735)
comparing unions to taxes is like comparing apples to oranges... they are completely separate issues... he might as well have thrown foreign policy issues into the comparison as well... :2 cents:

If we had no taxes, we would have no money for teachers, police, fire, ie: unions. You're correct that they are separate issues, even topics, but at the end of the day they are not separate from each other.

Without taxes, we have no teachers, and without teachers and everything related to what those taxes allow for, we wouldn't have the knowledge, safety, life standards or ability to create the wealth we do. It's not like Countries without these factors, do well.

They are intertwined... they are one, unless someone twists the issues to make them appear to be different.

spazlabz 03-04-2011 02:56 PM

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He then played footage from just a few months ago that showed Fox anchors wailing that the Bush tax cuts must be extended for people making over $250,000 per year because those people, as one anchor put it, were almost living in poverty.
I wouldn't mind living in that kind of poverty! talk about disconnect :helpme

arock10 03-04-2011 02:56 PM

John Stewart owns fox news (and all the other news outlets) nightly

Tom_PM 03-04-2011 03:19 PM

The foxnews tv show has run it's course. Maybe they should retool it and add a wisecracking maid.

Brujah 03-04-2011 05:11 PM

I thought he made some very intelligent points. What I don't understand is why all these conservatives who were so strongly against these bailouts are defending it so aggressively now.

DudeRick 03-04-2011 05:23 PM

Yawn...
Liberal bullshit thread... :1orglaugh

John Stewart = Arianna Huffington

EZRhino 03-04-2011 05:26 PM

I hear what you all are saying. The hypocrisy is amazing. Are people crazy? After all drama teacher making $180K per year should be getting 90% of his pay for retirement after 36 years. It’s totally worth paying the $68 million every time we negotiate with the unions. Conservatives are all wrong after all the public sector, is what really creates jobs in this country. The public unions have every right to make sure that the officials they elect to office are at the same table to give unions the great deal they paid for. Let’s look at California, this state is making so much money that more and more millionaires leave the state every year. California taxes are so low that people can’t wait to leave. Unions make it so fair that that for the past 3 elections not one incumbent has lost.
Union leaders have it right, we should all become socialists. What is the matter with people wanting to become wealthy, what a stupid dream. If you are going to be stupid enough to have hopes and dreams to give your kids a better life. Then get your wallet out to pay more taxes for the asshole union leader that wants give 100% health care to fucking loser that teaches drama at $180k per year. And hell, fuck unions. Then we still have the admin union, the classified teacher union, police union, nurses union and god knows how many more that rig elections and bankrupt each state. And fuck bank bail outs. But don’t say that fucking unions are innocent. Bastards, don’t care if the business or state fails as long as they get paid and elect the people they want in office.
How easy to be won over by a guy who can make the whole thing sound funny.
He doesn’t even have to be right or accurate as long as he is funny and sounds liberal, it’s the truth.

directfiesta 03-04-2011 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by woj (Post 17957735)
comparing unions to taxes is like comparing apples to oranges... they are completely separate issues... he might as well have thrown foreign policy issues into the comparison as well... :2 cents:

His main point was that republicans were insisting on the fact that a CONTRACT was in place and should be enforced and respected.

Now the same republicans are saying otherwise , that the contract with the WORKERS are of no value and standing...

And if you listen to hate radio ( Limbaugh, Schnit, ...) it is even worse, making look Fox News are " fair and balanced " ...

TheDoc 03-04-2011 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by EZRhino (Post 17958445)
I hear what you all are saying. The hypocrisy is amazing. Are people crazy? After all drama teacher making $180K per year should be getting 90% of his pay for retirement after 36 years. It?s totally worth paying the $68 million every time we negotiate with the unions. Conservatives are all wrong after all the public sector, is what really creates jobs in this country. The public unions have every right to make sure that the officials they elect to office are at the same table to give unions the great deal they paid for. Let?s look at California, this state is making so much money that more and more millionaires leave the state every year. California taxes are so low that people can?t wait to leave. Unions make it so fair that that for the past 3 elections not one incumbent has lost.
Union leaders have it right, we should all become socialists. What is the matter with people wanting to become wealthy, what a stupid dream. If you are going to be stupid enough to have hopes and dreams to give your kids a better life. Then get your wallet out to pay more taxes for the asshole union leader that wants give 100% health care to fucking loser that teaches drama at $180k per year. And hell, fuck unions. Then we still have the admin union, the classified teacher union, police union, nurses union and god knows how many more that rig elections and bankrupt each state. And fuck bank bail outs. But don?t say that fucking unions are innocent. Bastards, don?t care if the business or state fails as long as they get paid and elect the people they want in office.
How easy to be won over by a guy who can make the whole thing sound funny.
He doesn?t even have to be right or accurate as long as he is funny and sounds liberal, it?s the truth.

Paragraphs......

Gov Walker could have restructured the future, being that they're growing towards the positive - again. At that, it's odd everything was once in the positive, fine, good going and now it's not.

I've always wondered why more Americans aren't screaming for the heads of corps, banks, investment funds, insurance, ect... ceo's, board members ect... that profited from bankrupting the system that so many now are bitching is failing...

And what are people watching that makes them focus on the people and not the problem?

GatorB 03-04-2011 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 17957674)
stewart is an idiot.
he's comparing the overpaid public sector unions with the failed attempt to single out a small portion of tax payers for a tax increase?

he's an idiot and so are the people who think he's right.

God you're fucking retarded. Please kill yourself. Honestly you're a waste of space and oxygen the world is better off without you in it.

GatorB 03-04-2011 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidMichaels (Post 17957741)
John stewart should be shot in the face

you should be shot in the face

TheSenator 03-04-2011 06:56 PM

Thank God there is Reddit

uno 03-04-2011 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarah_MaxCash (Post 17957658)
He has been on fire lately.

Do you only watch the (BBC or CNNI, i forget which) weekly special or can you watch it on thedailyshow.com/comedycentral.com?

Kiopa_Matt 03-04-2011 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17958557)
Paragraphs......

Gov Walker could have restructured the future, being that they're growing towards the positive - again. At that, it's odd everything was once in the positive, fine, good going and now it's not.

I've always wondered why more Americans aren't screaming for the heads of corps, banks, investment funds, insurance, ect... ceo's, board members ect... that profited from bankrupting the system that so many now are bitching is failing...

And what are people watching that makes them focus on the people and not the problem?

QFT.

I always love watching the argument about how corporate taxes should be lowered, because they're the job creators. Only problem is, over the last several decades, the majority of larger corporations within the US have proven without a shadow of a doubt, they will not reinvest that money into the US. They'll invest it oversees, where the profit margins are much higher.

Then they actively go after teachers. How pathetic. If anything, teachers are one of the most crucial resources to a countries' survival, especially in this day and age. Are they just trying to dumb down the populous more than it already has been, or what?

Traffic Guru 03-04-2011 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 17957674)
stewart is an idiot.
he's comparing the overpaid public sector unions with the failed attempt to single out a small portion of tax payers for a tax increase?

he's an idiot and so are the people who think he's right.

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Caligari 03-04-2011 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Traffic Guru (Post 17958829)
Right wing dipshits on porn forum. Tere's something you don't see every day.

thinking right or left is the major problem.

while i think john stewart can be brilliant at times, a scenario like this does need a much deeper look.
workers need bargaining rights, but there is also a problem of union corruption like any other major organization.

so it becomes a complicated issue that can't be solved simply by siding with unions.

corruption is all invasive and spreads like wildfire. i was in venezuela for months during 2005-2006 and at the time the people were largely liking what chavez was doing for workers rights, huge businesses which were very corrupt and severely fucking alot of their workers were nationalized etc.

That i can get behind, but soon after chavez like so many before him couldn't grasp enough power and started doing some looney fucking things which is really sad because he had the makings of a workable socialist-capitalist democracy.

on the other hand i'm on my once in a blue moon bender right now which is making me rather sketchy (i started writing this post about 30 minutes ago0

and btw i am not left wing, right wing, dem, republican or whatever the fuck. no system has been utilized yet to express the kind of government i'd like to see, probably because its not humanly possible, or maybe because i'd end up hating it as well.

woj 03-04-2011 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 17958526)
His main point was that republicans were insisting on the fact that a CONTRACT was in place and should be enforced and respected.

Now the same republicans are saying otherwise , that the contract with the WORKERS are of no value and standing...

And if you listen to hate radio ( Limbaugh, Schnit, ...) it is even worse, making look Fox News are " fair and balanced " ...

the 2 situations are quite different...

the bonuses were for work already performed... you agree to pay programmer $10k and the programmer performs that work, you owe him $10k, the fact that the company is going out of business or that government had to bail them out is irrelevant... work was done, $$ is owed... no? (replace $10k with $10M and programmer with ceo :winkwink:)

I'm not very familiar with the teacher issue, but it is my understanding that they may get pay cuts in the future? or they will no longer have union representation? either way, that's in the future.. it's not like they are getting fucked on pay for the work that was already done....

huge difference in my opinion... :2 cents:

TheDoc 03-04-2011 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by woj (Post 17959017)
the 2 situations are quite different...

the bonuses were for work already performed... you agree to pay programmer $10k and the programmer performs that work, you owe him $10k, the fact the company is going out of business or that government had to bail them out is irrelevant... work was done, $$ is owed... no? (replace $10k with $10M and programmer with ceo :winkwink:)

I'm not very familiar with the teacher issue, but it is my understanding that they may get pay cuts in the future? or they will no longer have union representation? either way, that's in the future.. it's not like they are getting fucked on pay for the work that was already done....

huge difference in my opinion... :2 cents:

That's the type of job I need... make hundreds of millions, totally screw my job up, lose a trillion of my own citizens wealth, suck hundreds of billions of tax payers money down the drain through bailouts, then after I'm done totally screwing it all up, failing at my job at every level, a few hundred million in bonus money and corporate perks on the tax payers dime should equal things out for me, just to make sure I can scrape along.

NetHorse 03-04-2011 10:46 PM

Have you guys ever turned on MSNBC? They're just as bat shit crazy. Their political basism and hypocrisy to the extreme left is sickening.

woj 03-04-2011 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17959032)
That's the type of job I need... make hundreds of millions, totally screw my job up, lose a trillion of my own citizens wealth, suck hundreds of billions of tax payers money down the drain through bailouts, then after I'm done totally screwing it all up, failing at my job at every level, a few hundred million in bonus money and corporate perks on the tax payers dime should equal things out for me, just to make sure I can scrape along.

if you ever find a job like that, make sure you sign a solid contract, so if by some fluke shit hits the fan, and the whole country starts pointing fingers at you, you will get paid for your work... :thumbsup

TheDoc 03-04-2011 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by woj (Post 17959064)
if you ever find a job like that, make sure you sign a solid contract, so if by some fluke shit hits the fan, and the whole country starts pointing fingers at you, you will get paid for your work... :thumbsup

Sad that our teachers, hard working, improving our country, teaching our kids - teachers... can't be better taken care of than a bunch of crooks that knew exactly what they were doing, screwed the country over, robbed us blind and totally get on a way with it.

Something... is greatly unbalanced here, in the wrong direction.

Caligari 03-04-2011 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by NetHorse (Post 17959052)
Have you guys ever turned on MSNBC? They're just as bat shit crazy. Their political basism and hypocrisy to the extreme left is sickening.

i agree. its pretty funny because both ends of the MSM are so full of shit and dont give a fuck what they say as long as it supports their team. we know as well how many dems are corrupt as fuck, hillary clinton is almost as bad a her husband, and i voted for the fucker, then had to watch as he bombed the fuck out of civilians in yugoslavia while telling the nation how shocked he was at the violence in Columbine.

TheDoc 03-04-2011 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by NetHorse (Post 17959052)
Have you guys ever turned on MSNBC? They're just as bat shit crazy. Their political basism and hypocrisy to the extreme left is sickening.

They all ignore what's really going on, no mater what topic we look at, they ignore it, they twist it, they skew it and they report half truths. From MSNBC to Fox, they'are all crap.

But you have to admit... Fox takes the cake, they have websites dedicated to them that document the complete bullshit they spew, over and over, day after day, they don't even try to report truths.

End of the day, all of them just try to pit us against each other by pointing out stupid little bullshit things that really aren't any part of what's really going on.

woj 03-04-2011 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17959068)
Sad that our teachers, hard working, improving our country, teaching our kids - teachers... can't be better taken care of than a bunch of crooks that knew exactly what they were doing, screwed the country over, robbed us blind and totally get on a way with it.

Something... is greatly unbalanced here, in the wrong direction.

who performs more important job is debatable...

some teacher teaching 30 brats, of those maybe 1 will grow up to make a meaningful contribution to our society...

or some some "banker" who closes deals, moves $$ around, and makes investments in technologies such as the internet, computers, etc possible? you think you would have computers connected to an internet without a thriving finance industry? Where do you think the computers would come from? Who would finance construction of factories to build them? who would finance research needed to design the computer? etc

The Demon 03-04-2011 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 17957738)
I saw it. Brilliant piece as usual.

It's clear to me that Republicans and Fox news want to keep the nation STUPID. Think about it. Cutting funding for school and teachers while simultaneously electing idiots like Bush, Palin, Bachmann, O'Donnell etc into office preaching gross financial, political and scientific inaccuracies, and being backed up by fucktards like O'reilly, Beck and other assholes at Fox News. Just amazing.

the nation is stupid because the democrats are in power and they're brainless morons who need to fault others for their stupidity.

The Demon 03-04-2011 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Traffic Guru (Post 17958829)
Right wing dipshits on porn forum. Tere's something you don't see every day.

Left wing dipshits on a porn forum. Too perfect:)

Sausage 03-04-2011 11:25 PM

Watched quite a bit of Fox news, CNN and also Msnbc recently. Fox didn't seem too bad, made sense with a lot of the union stuff but then again could detect the conservative leaning, oh and a bit too jesus for me.

CNN seemed pretty fair. Good international reporting too. Though MSNBC is just one giant anti republican attack session, they don't even try to give 2 sides like the others, its just an endless anti conservative attack network.


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