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dyna mo 04-04-2011 10:25 AM

does a bong stop the tar?
 
or does it just cool the smoke down?

marketsmart 04-04-2011 10:29 AM

just make butter and then use that to make treats..

no smoking and high lasts a long time..




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clicker 04-04-2011 10:30 AM

Vaporizor is the way to go.

dyna mo 04-04-2011 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 18030545)
just make butter and then use that to make treats..

no smoking and high lasts a long time..




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any more info?
Quote:

Originally Posted by clicker (Post 18030550)
Vaporizor is the way to go.

vape doesn't work for me, i've got 2 vapes, neither do it for me. :-(

Jman 04-04-2011 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clicker (Post 18030550)
Vaporizor is the way to go.

Volcano by Storz & Bickel... You can use the dried up goods to roll a good joint of moroccan hash :pimp

Jman 04-04-2011 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 18030556)
any more info?


vape doesn't work for me, i've got 2 vapes, neither do it for me. :-(

http://www.storz-bickel.com/vaporize...FV045QodWz-nVw

It's Expensive but is the ONLY one that works. Well worth it:thumbsup

Tom_PM 04-04-2011 10:38 AM

I think the tar is in the smoke so nothing is going to get rid of it unless it's not being turned to smoke.

dyna mo 04-04-2011 10:39 AM

so any info on whether a bong stops tar?

L-Pink 04-04-2011 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 18030556)
any more info?


vape doesn't work for me, i've got 2 vapes, neither do it for me. :-(

My sister was a little hippie girl that smoked all the time, then kids came along. Not wanting to have smoke or smoke smell around the house she really became proficient in alternate THC consumption.

Making butter or oil from weed lets you make all sorts of buzz food. You can also make very interesting drinks with weed aged in vodka then strained.

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dyna mo 04-04-2011 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 18030578)
I think the tar is in the smoke so nothing is going to get rid of it unless it's not being turned to smoke.

gotcha, prolly right eh. :thumbsup i should do a quick googlie

dyna mo 04-04-2011 10:45 AM

found this

Dry Pipe:
1/16.2 C/T
~30% of THC in sample

Single Percolation Waterpipe or Bong:
1/16.9 C/T
Small waterpipe ~25%, Bong ~15% of THC in sample

Unfiltered joint:
1/13 Cannabanoid/Tar
~20% THC in sample

Filtered joint:
1/16.9 C/T
<20% of THC in sample

Hotplate Vaporizer:
1/9.75 C/T
~10% of THC in sample

Modern Hot Air Vaporizer:
~9/1 C/T
~60% of THC in sample

Morgan 04-04-2011 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 18030556)
any more info?

hit me up if you need to learn about cooking with cannabis. i do it every week in all sorts of forms... medibles with budder (or olive oil), medibles with tincture (glycerin or alcohol).

"canna" butter or "budder" is the most common form and once you make the budder, you can use it on/in anything that calls for butter (or oil). there are tons of videos on youtube but it's very simple.

kristin 04-04-2011 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 18030556)
any more info?


vape doesn't work for me, i've got 2 vapes, neither do it for me. :-(

This is why I love you. No Vaporizers for me either, I'll take my bong Doris any day. Oh and volcanoes are shit too.

Anyways, no on the tar. Just makes it cooler and less harsh.

Also, there is a great book on how to cook various things: Go here

dyna mo 04-04-2011 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 18030584)
My sister was a little hippie girl that smoked all the time, then kids came along. Not wanting to have smoke or smoke smell around the house she really became proficient in alternate THC consumption.

Making butter or oil from weed lets you make all sorts of buzz food. You can also make very interesting drinks with weed aged in vodka then strained.

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:thumbsup
Quote:

Originally Posted by Morgan (Post 18030666)
hit me up if you need to learn about cooking with cannabis. i do it every week in all sorts of forms... medibles with budder (or olive oil), medibles with tincture (glycerin or alcohol).

"canna" butter or "budder" is the most common form and once you make the budder, you can use it on/in anything that calls for butter (or oil). there are tons of videos on youtube but it's very simple.

any suggested youtube vids? i'd def check them out. :thumbsup
Quote:

Originally Posted by kristin (Post 18030677)
This is why I love you. No Vaporizers for me either, I'll take my bong Doris any day. Oh and volcanoes are shit too.

Anyways, no on the tar. Just makes it cooler and less harsh.

Also, there is a great book on how to cook various things: Go here

right back at cha! :)

the best way i've figured out how to get loaded on a vape is to vape a shit ton of weed, then i schmoke some of what was just vaped. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

i do get buzzed vaping. but in all pepsi challenges (schmoking v vaping when not high already and comparing) i am always noticeably more high after schmoke.

CIVMatt 04-04-2011 11:29 AM

Dr. Marbles stops a lot of that "gunk"

Gabriel 04-04-2011 11:38 AM

Not sure if it gets rid of all of it but it sure tends to build up on the walls.

The Porn Nerd 04-04-2011 11:50 AM

Hope you're saving that tar Dyna Mo! I've got a little mountain of it from my pipes, just keep adding to it and it's like four inches now. LOL Take some of that tar, stick it on the end of a toothpick, light it like hash, inhale - FUCKED UP!!!

V_RocKs 04-04-2011 11:55 AM

If you are going to use a bong because its less harsh and what not I suggest using a triple bubbler. Feels like breathing air so you can hit an entire bowl and look like a pro.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 04-04-2011 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 18030805)
Hope you're saving that tar Dyna Mo! I've got a little mountain of it from my pipes, just keep adding to it and it's like four inches now. LOL Take some of that tar, stick it on the end of a toothpick, light it like hash, inhale - FUCKED UP!!!

he's worried about tar, and you're suggesting he smoke his pipe crud? lol. let's see, save tar, so you can smoke pure tar. genius. most people stop doing that when they quit buying weed with their lunch allowance. a bong mostly just cools the smoke so it's easier on the throat. it doesn't filter much of the tar, if any. :thumbsup

i've had friend do the weed vodka, and it will definitely get you fucked up. i never made it myself so i can't speak for how long you have to age it, or just how much you need to pack into a bottle.

as for cooking it, you need to sort of sautee it for a long time on super low heat. i usually toss an ounce in with about 4 sticks of butter. i use a slow cooker and a glass jar. toss a coupel cups of water in and throw it on high. but a lot people will just use a couple pots set into one another. i've seen people do it just in a sauce pan, but i think that's still too much heat and you'll lose some of the potency.

once you've got your butter you can use it for virtually anything. i like to do garlic toast with it.

Phoenix 04-04-2011 11:58 AM

it doesnt stop it all...it sure does help though

as you know water has a negative covalent charge
and the thc once burned also has a negative charge so it goes through the water.
the tar and other impurities are positively charged, so a lot of it is swallowed up by the water...so its better then nothing :)

CaptainHowdy 04-04-2011 12:02 PM

I pity the worldless ...

dyna mo 04-04-2011 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 18030820)
If you are going to use a bong because its less harsh and what not I suggest using a triple bubbler. Feels like breathing air so you can hit an entire bowl and look like a pro.

is that better than my roor?

http://oi52.tinypic.com/25iwwzk.jpg

Coup 04-04-2011 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 18030534)
cool the smoke down?

this mostly^
but the water will catch some tar too

moeloubani 04-04-2011 12:28 PM

you are using the vape wrong i am smoking out of it right now and getting amazing hauls while barely hooting on it

i dont know if i said it before but if i take a tissue and put it between my lips and the nozzle of the vape and take a huge haul there is nothing there if i did the same with a bong or a joint the tissue would be sticky and dark brown with resin even off of just one hit

The Porn Nerd 04-04-2011 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 18030826)
he's worried about tar, and you're suggesting he smoke his pipe crud? lol. let's see, save tar, so you can smoke pure tar. genius. most people stop doing that when they quit buying weed with their lunch allowance. a bong mostly just cools the smoke so it's easier on the throat. it doesn't filter much of the tar, if any. :thumbsup

i've had friend do the weed vodka, and it will definitely get you fucked up. i never made it myself so i can't speak for how long you have to age it, or just how much you need to pack into a bottle.

as for cooking it, you need to sort of sautee it for a long time on super low heat. i usually toss an ounce in with about 4 sticks of butter. i use a slow cooker and a glass jar. toss a coupel cups of water in and throw it on high. but a lot people will just use a couple pots set into one another. i've seen people do it just in a sauce pan, but i think that's still too much heat and you'll lose some of the potency.

once you've got your butter you can use it for virtually anything. i like to do garlic toast with it.

LOL True, it is kind of a "poor man's hash" but the trick is to let it sit there for a few months. I mean, if you want a brain wreck, that is.

I don't like edibles as much because it's so hard to time the high, or control it, it just sort of consumes you and is a massive body high. I like sitting on the couch and listening to Zeppelin as much as the next stoner but I prefer head highs so I can, you know, actually get shit done.

CyberHustler 04-04-2011 12:34 PM

Vaporizers destroy the taste of the weed. I like the taste of weed... Nothing is better than a great bong hit. I mostly smoke joints though. No blunts.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 04-04-2011 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 18030903)
is that better than my roor?

http://oi52.tinypic.com/25iwwzk.jpg

you already got a precooler on there, all you'd be doing is adding one more level of filtration. you're not going to notice much of a difference at that point. nice glass btw.

dyna mo 04-04-2011 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 18030929)
you are using the vape wrong i am smoking out of it right now and getting amazing hauls while barely hooting on it

i dont know if i said it before but if i take a tissue and put it between my lips and the nozzle of the vape and take a huge haul there is nothing there if i did the same with a bong or a joint the tissue would be sticky and dark brown with resin even off of just one hit

man, i have vaped with some stoner friends and they end up rolling around on the floor and i'm WZTF! i do get a buzz, but nothing in comparo. :-(
Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 18030934)
LOL True, it is kind of a "poor man's hash" but the trick is to let it sit there for a few months. I mean, if you want a brain wreck, that is.

I don't like edibles as much because it's so hard to time the high, or control it, it just sort of consumes you and is a massive body high. I like sitting on the couch and listening to Zeppelin as much as the next stoner but I prefer head highs so I can, you know, actually get shit done.

i've done the resin thing and agree. used to roll them in keef for a little something extra and to help get it lit. but harshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh eh. i just threw away a resin ball about the size of a large marble just to make sure i don't smoke that shit! hahahahah true.
Quote:

Originally Posted by NanoBot (Post 18030951)
Vaporizers destroy the taste of the weed. I like the taste of weed... Nothing is better than a great bong hit. I mostly smoke joints though. No blunts.

rly? i find the taste with the vape to be fukin outstanding.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 18030996)
you already got a precooler on there, all you'd be doing is adding one more level of filtration. you're not going to notice much of a difference at that point. nice glass btw.

thx, figured anything worth doing is worth doing right! :1orglaugh

nosey 04-04-2011 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 18030903)
is that better than my roor?

http://oi52.tinypic.com/25iwwzk.jpg

i smoke that pen

nosey 04-04-2011 12:55 PM

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moeloubani 04-04-2011 12:58 PM

what temp are you vaping at? different temperatures do different things

Δ-9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC)
Boiling point:157*C / 314.6 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Euphoriant, Analgesic, Antiinflammatory, Antioxidant, Antiemetic

cannabidiol (CBD)
Boiling point: 160-180*C / 320-356 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Anxiolytic, Analgesic, Antipsychotic, Antiinflammatory, Antioxidant, Antispasmodic

Cannabinol (CBN)
Boiling point: 185*C / 365 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: (Oxidation breakdown product) Sedative, Antibiotic

cannabichromene (CBC)
Boiling point: 220*C / 428 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Antiinflammatory, Antibiotic, Antifungal

Δ-8-tetrahydrocannabinol (Δ-8-THC)
Boiling point: 175-178*C / 347-352.4 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Resembles Δ-9-THC, Less psychoactive, More stable Antiemetic

You don't need to hit the boiling points but the closer you come to them the more you'll get of what you want.

Socks 04-04-2011 01:48 PM

Short of science, think of it this way.

When you smoke a joint, invariably on a microscopic level you're also ingesting tiny plant fibers into your lungs. With a good sized bong, the distance travelled and water will remove a lot of that.

Also the heat isn't good for your lungs, and after just a day or two of bong use you can see all the crud that's inside it.. Without it, where would that crud have gone?

dyna mo 04-04-2011 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 18031053)
what temp are you vaping at? different temperatures do different things

Δ-9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC)
Boiling point:157*C / 314.6 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Euphoriant, Analgesic, Antiinflammatory, Antioxidant, Antiemetic

cannabidiol (CBD)
Boiling point: 160-180*C / 320-356 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Anxiolytic, Analgesic, Antipsychotic, Antiinflammatory, Antioxidant, Antispasmodic

Cannabinol (CBN)
Boiling point: 185*C / 365 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: (Oxidation breakdown product) Sedative, Antibiotic

cannabichromene (CBC)
Boiling point: 220*C / 428 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Antiinflammatory, Antibiotic, Antifungal

Δ-8-tetrahydrocannabinol (Δ-8-THC)
Boiling point: 175-178*C / 347-352.4 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Resembles Δ-9-THC, Less psychoactive, More stable Antiemetic

You don't need to hit the boiling points but the closer you come to them the more you'll get of what you want.

in this range , 300-350 ish

BlackCrayon 04-04-2011 01:58 PM

i notice a big difference between using a single filter bong and a double. using the single, you can see way more tar near the moutpiece, compared to the double filtered one i have you see much, much less.

dyna mo 04-04-2011 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 18031486)
i notice a big difference between using a single filter bong and a double. using the single, you can see way more tar near the moutpiece, compared to the double filtered one i have you see much, much less.

i wonder what % it all is?........ all that shit i have to use special cleaner to clean out of the bong is all tar right? ash does stick like that. eh/

kristin 04-04-2011 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 18031516)
i wonder what % it all is?........ all that shit i have to use special cleaner to clean out of the bong is all tar right? ash does stick like that. eh/

Ever use 420 cleaner for your bong?

dyna mo 04-04-2011 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kristin (Post 18031660)
Ever use 420 cleaner for your bong?

i use the orange chronic, haven't tried the 420, they have it at the local shop though, should i give it a whirl when this batch runs out?

The Porn Nerd 04-04-2011 02:37 PM

This thread is great - ask a business question on GFY and you get trolled to death. Ask about weed and suddenly it's Science Theater 3000 in here.

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Socks 04-04-2011 02:39 PM

Best bong cleaner is rubbing alcohol and coarse salt. The salt doesn't dissolve easily in alcohol, and acts as an abrasive to scrub the walls off. 70% alcohol will do fine, but 99% isopropyl is even better. I wouldn't spend much extra on it, but it does work better.

amateurbfs 04-04-2011 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 18031680)
i use the orange chronic, haven't tried the 420, they have it at the local shop though, should i give it a whirl when this batch runs out?

All of that stuff is a waste of money.. 91% alcohol and salt like posted above.


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