Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 18296565)

USA was downgraded this week.

The EU could crash.

Originally Posted by Johny Traffic (Post 18296582)

What if DVTimes died?

Would anyone notice?

Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 18296565)

USA was downgraded this week.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 18296831)

the usa was downgraded to what this week?

Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 18296928)

A small island in the pacific. Pay attention! :upsidedow

Originally Posted by bossku69 (Post 18296855)

that would be shitty (calling CurrentlySober...)

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 18296927)

Originally Posted by Mike Honcho (Post 18296952)

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 18297325)

buy gold and your safe from the bullshit :2 cents:

Originally Posted by topnotch, standup guy (Post 18296912)

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 18297529)

what is this a picture of, and what significance does it have here?

Originally Posted by Choker (Post 18297616)

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r...arsenal007.jpg


Now your talking my language. If the world goes to shit guns and ammo will be the new currency. However for the same money spent on these weapons I could buy 10 pistol grip shotguns for $169 each, and how many boxes of 100 shotgun shells from wallmart for $24 a box? My personal stash is 1 AK47, 9mm,380, 7 shotguns. Ammo prolly 1000 rounds for all but the shotguns, I have like 50 boxes of 100 count 12 guage shells. Shotguns will be the king of the world if we have a apocalypse. My two cents lol

Originally Posted by Choker (Post 18297616)

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r...arsenal007.jpg

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18297858)

I am not the doom and gloom type because it's free to hope for the best, but costs to plan for the worst. Also, being a homeowner with a invested retirement, you tend to lean towards government propaganda to bring collective confidence to the markets and to normalize society. WTS, there are very clear signs we're in a lot of trouble that won't be recognized by most Americans.

New Police manufactured fear for mass control.
Feds masquerading terrorist prevention to instill fear.
Useless wars to generate patriotic fervor and occupy the violent.
Politicians who grab for their corporate lobbying interest only.
Corporations who dictate tax terms, or lack of with threats of layoffs.
Massive debt that can't be paid back in three life-times.
President who lacks true leadership skills.
Federal Reserve who'll print more money regardless.
The public occupied with massive debt themselves, terrified.

A crash in inevitable because we are too far in debt as Americans bought into hope and change out of desperation. There were lot's of intelligent Jews who were marched off to their deaths with the same, hope and change ideology.

Obviously, it won't be that severe, but the concept of things will get better, with no positive direction option is just stupid. Society is degrading because we don't trust our policing, banks, politicians, the system, and sadly, each other.

As we go to work everyday to hang on to our financial and personal responsibilities we are oblivious that a crash is inevitable or how severe it will be. Again, the signs are clear as slow deliberate changes are occurring to prepare for the sudden fall.

That's how it's going to happen. You'll wake up one day and it's all over and they'll be chaos, anger, rioting, violence, and vigilantism. After all this subsides Americans will come together and understand a huge debt burden has been lifted. We'll spring back stronger with new rules in place, true confident leaders, and fresh memories of the worst case scenario. In this process we'll separate those who felt entitlements were their right, as they will suffer the worst being ostracized with public blame. In the end - we'll be stronger and wiser.

You see this was all planned by the rest of the world because we Americans grew displaced with entitlements causing our debt. As the rest of the world rebuilt from failed wars and political ideologies we grew fat and arrogant with confidence being the world reserve currency. Again, as the rest of the world understand the worst case scenario, our government turned into gangsters with our military and lost focus on how to generate stabilized true wealth. Meaning, why earn it when you can steal/exploit it and live in excess.

The crash will happen like this. Currently, there is a war going on between the dollar and the Euro. The debt ceiling debauchery is a well organized plan to see who blinks first because whomever holds out the longest gets to go on as normal. If the Euro fails it will only revalue the dollar as the worlds reserve and open up new markets in failed economies ie., a rally.

If the dollar fails the world will switch to a basket currency reserve with the Euro leading the way. I am certain this is what the rest of the world wants and to be honest, it's actually a good plan and inevitably the future.

Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 18297890)

spot on... :thumbsup

but the sheep will call you a tinfoil hat...

if the shit does hit the fan at some point, those sheep will be slaughtered by guys like me with lots of guns...





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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 18297907)

i like you. i hope your post-armageddon doomsday survival plan is well-thought out, implemented and has training in place and includes as many of your neighbors as possible. otherwise you too will run over by the hoard. it takes A LOT more than guns & ammo to be one of those shoot em up post armageddon dudes.