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Paul Markham 10-08-2011 05:29 AM

The hypocrites in porn.
 
It's just struck me what hypocrites there are in porn. Or is it different people with different views?

Go to a convention and there are dozens to hundreds of webmasters looking at semi naked girls with their tongues hanging out. JFK shooting pictures of them sticking their hands on the girls and grinning, girls they have barely met, not paying and all over in a fleeting second. This they think is cool.

People shooting girls asking them to have cum shot all over their face, or a guy in their ass, or POV with a guy who dare not show his face. People who don't give a thought to how a girl feels about this, so long as they earn money from her being covered in cum, DP or other things we know she won't like and only doing it for money.

When I read from a shooter that he never touches a model. I'm confused. Here's a girl who he doesn't know, trying to keep as far away as possible, frightened to touch her and he thinks this makes her comfortable. A girl who he than asks to be fucked on camera or just open her lega and do i pink. Which he'll make sure gets maximum exposure and likely to effect the rest of her life. Yet he can't go over and straighten her pose or clothes. :upsidedow

Yes when I clown around with a porn model, for a promo clip. It makes people feel bad or squeamish. :1orglaugh

Harmon 10-08-2011 05:32 AM

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Paul Markham 10-08-2011 05:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harmon (Post 18477467)

This is cool. Me doing it for business isn't. Yes the clip was promotion and a job for her and me.

TheDoc 10-08-2011 05:51 AM

Where is the hypocrisy?

Paul Markham 10-08-2011 05:56 AM

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

http://www.fubarwebmasters.com/galle...638/z00986.jpg

http://www.fubarwebmasters.com/galle...638/z01437.jpg

What a hypocritical industry can do.

TheDoc 10-08-2011 05:58 AM

Posing for a picture is the same as handling a model during a shoot?

Replace hypocrisy with stupidity and you've got yourself a real thread going here.

Grapesoda 10-08-2011 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18477460)
It's just struck me what hypocrites there are in porn. Or is it different people with different views?

Go to a convention and there are dozens to hundreds of webmasters looking at semi naked girls with their tongues hanging out. JFK shooting pictures of them sticking their hands on the girls and grinning, girls they have barely met, not paying and all over in a fleeting second. This they think is cool.

People shooting girls asking them to have cum shot all over their face, or a guy in their ass, or POV with a guy who dare not show his face. People who don't give a thought to how a girl feels about this, so long as they earn money from her being covered in cum, DP or other things we know she won't like and only doing it for money.

When I read from a shooter that he never touches a model. I'm confused. Here's a girl who he doesn't know, trying to keep as far away as possible, frightened to touch her and he thinks this makes her comfortable. A girl who he than asks to be fucked on camera or just open her lega and do i pink. Which he'll make sure gets maximum exposure and likely to effect the rest of her life. Yet he can't go over and straighten her pose or clothes. :upsidedow

Yes when I clown around with a porn model, for a promo clip. It makes people feel bad or squeamish. :1orglaugh

the girls don't care how I feel... :2 cents:

CaptainHowdy 10-08-2011 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 18477528)
the girls don't care how I feel... :2 cents:

There we go ...

DamianJ 10-08-2011 06:12 AM

This is funny. You *really* cannot see the difference between webmasters LOOKING at a girl without much on who is parading about TO BE LOOKED AT and you groping and pawing at a model you paid TO TAKE PICTURES OF. She isn't your whore Paul. She is a professional model. They way you acted was unprofessional at best and illegal at worst. You are disgusting.

If you weren't just joking about getting a job where you will be in charge of children I will do everything in my power to make sure you get removed from that position.

DWB 10-08-2011 06:14 AM

The whores I shoot would be insulted if everyone in the room didn't try to get their pecker in them.

porno jew 10-08-2011 06:20 AM

good luck your new job teaching english to the children in the village paul. hope it works out for you better than porn.

porno jew 10-08-2011 06:21 AM

people in brno don't have the same sexual hangups like in the UK so shouldn't be a problem.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18477541)
This is funny. You *really* cannot see the difference between webmasters LOOKING at a girl without much on who is parading about TO BE LOOKED AT and you groping and pawing at a model you paid TO TAKE PICTURES OF. She isn't your whore Paul. She is a professional model. They way you acted was unprofessional at best and illegal at worst. You are disgusting.

If you weren't just joking about getting a job where you will be in charge of children I will do everything in my power to make sure you get removed from that position.


DamianJ 10-08-2011 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18477559)
people in brno don't have the same sexual hangups like in the UK so shouldn't be a problem.

Oh right. So whilst *I* stupidly thought she looked terrified he was going to try and fuck her, she actually was wet as the niagra falls and practically BEGGING to suck his wizened crusty old cock?

Blimey, these differences between body language in different parts of the world are fascinating. I feel silly for suggesting he was being a filthy dirty old letch taking advantage of a young model.

porno jew 10-08-2011 06:32 AM

you must have watched a different video than i? it looked like they were practically bf and gf by the end of the video.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18477561)
Oh right. So whilst *I* stupidly thought she looked terrified he was going to try and fuck her, she actually was wet as the niagra falls and practically BEGGING to suck his wizened crusty old cock?

Blimey, these differences between body language in different parts of the world are fascinating. I feel silly for suggesting he was being a filthy dirty old letch taking advantage of a young model.


DamianJ 10-08-2011 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18477574)
you must have watched a different video than i? it looked like they were practically bf and gf by the end of the video.

It must just be the difference between girls in the West and girls from Brno. You know how Indian people shake their head side to side when then mean yes? It's that kind of thing I guess.

To my untrained eye, she looked scared and uncomfortable. But to Paul's professional eye he saw a girl that really really wanted to take his load all over her pretty little face.

grumpy 10-08-2011 06:34 AM

why dont you start a blog.

DamianJ 10-08-2011 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by grumpy (Post 18477576)
why dont you start a blog.

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Paul Markham 10-08-2011 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grumpy (Post 18477576)
why dont you start a blog.

Actually blogging this toporn fans would get a better reaction. They're less touchy than these porn professionals. God knows how they feels about Dave Cummings fucking girls.

EukerVoorn 10-08-2011 09:27 AM

Personally I feel it's better for your biz, as a producer, not to try to have sex with your models especially on the set. This for the simple reason that if you keep your distance, the models will have more respect for you and see you as their employer rather than a buddy which will result in better work results.

Personally I think that guys who go into the porn biz because they like girls, are like kids in the candy store. They may get their pussy from time to time but they won't do great business wise or they end up getting beaten up by jealous boyfriends or dads.

What happens AFTER the shoots between photographer and model is a totally different story but people fall in love with each other on the workfloor of any industry, not just the porn biz. Just try to keep business and work seperated if you want to be professional.

Jack Sparrow 10-08-2011 09:28 AM

Paul groping a girl. What else is new.

If it looks like a mental old fart, has yellow teeth like a retarded old fart, smells like an old fart, wheres cheap 2nd hand clothing like an old fart and tries to touch a girl that obviously does not want some old farts hands on her: what do we have?

Answer: paul markham.

Maybe we should all email the girl and tell her that she could get some money in a nice lawsuit :)

EukerVoorn 10-08-2011 09:31 AM

Did I write that? Speaking of hypocrites hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

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Paul Markham 10-08-2011 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EukerVoorn (Post 18477792)
Personally I feel it's better for your biz, as a producer, not to try to have sex with your models especially on the set. This for the simple reason that if you keep your distance, the models will have more respect for you and see you as their employer rather than a buddy which will result in better work results.

Personally I think that guys who go into the porn biz because they like girls, are like kids in the candy store. They may get their pussy from time to time but they won't do great business wise or they end up getting beaten up by jealous boyfriends or dads.

What happens AFTER the shoots between photographer and model is a totally different story but people fall in love with each other on the workfloor of any industry, not just the porn biz. Just try to keep business and work seperated if you want to be professional.

We spent 100s of pounds shooting a model. Her money, film, make up, clothing, location. Anyone who thinks we did that to sleep with her isn't thinking straight. We spent that money to make a profit.

The respect I needed from a model was a finely balanced thing. I needed her to respect my work, me and trust that I knew where I was going with my flirting. To build her up and get a good reaction from her. not to get her into bed. That for me was always the easy part. Anyone who comes into porn shooting to get fucked. Will get fucked good and proper.

In his bank account.

The problem is the arena porn people have to often work in. no one wants to wank off to a girl on auto pilot. They want to wank off to a girl they think wants to fuck them rotten. Helps if the model has some warm feeling towards the person with the camera.

epitome 10-08-2011 12:14 PM

You go on a mainstream shoot and the photographer rarely touches anything but his camera and lights.

If you can't direct a girl to do something without touching her then you're doing something wrong and suck at your job.

I have shot and have seen many others shoot and nobody is touching the models. Professionalism.

L-Pink 10-08-2011 12:15 PM

It's YOU that makes it creepy.

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porno jew 10-08-2011 12:20 PM

why do all your paysite reviews call you a "creepy old man?"

coincidence?

seeandsee 10-08-2011 12:25 PM

it's normal, you will find hypocrites everywhere, its in the nature of people...

FlexxAeon 10-08-2011 12:28 PM

paul, you already won the fucking award. give it a rest

SilentKnight 10-08-2011 12:50 PM

I still recall a fetish-scener model we shot a few years ago who, after the shoot was done said, "I wish we'd gone a little farther." Evidently she was disappointed we didn't all get naked and spend the remainder of the evening doin' shit with the cameras off.

She wanted to scene, despite us telling her from the onset of the shoot that we (my wife and I) were simply (monogamous) photographers and wanted her to just model bondage.

She was a good model and we enjoyed working with her. But her comments at the end of the shoot stuck with me over the years.

DamianJ 10-08-2011 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilentKnight (Post 18478081)
I still recall a fetish-scener model we shot a few years ago who, after the shoot was done said, "I wish we'd gone a little farther." Evidently she was disappointed we didn't all get naked and spend the remainder of the evening doin' shit with the cameras off.

She wanted to scene, despite us telling her from the onset of the shoot that we (my wife and I) were simply (monogamous) photographers and wanted her to just model bondage.

She was a good model and we enjoyed working with her. But her comments at the end of the shoot stuck with me over the years.

I bet Paul gets that all the time.

"When you told me you had an erection, I really wanted you to fuck me with it. It is not at all inappropriate for a photographer to grope me. Please spunk on my face. "

Anthony 10-08-2011 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18477521)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

http://www.fubarwebmasters.com/galle...638/z00986.jpg

What a hypocritical industry can do.

The only hypocrisy I see in this pic is a white guy who probably comes on GFY and rags on Azns for having small pee-pees.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Grapesoda 10-08-2011 06:01 PM

[QUOTE=DamianJ;18477541] a model you paid TO TAKE PICTURES OF. She isn't your whore Paul. She is a professional model. QUOTE]

how do you know what he paid her to do? how do you know she isn't his whore? how many shoots have you done? what do you know about professional models?

Grapesoda 10-08-2011 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome (Post 18478029)
You go on a mainstream shoot and the photographer rarely touches anything but his camera and lights.

If you can't direct a girl to do something without touching her then you're doing something wrong and suck at your job.

I have shot and have seen many others shoot and nobody is touching the models. Professionalism.

depends what glass you're using and it's a really BIG world, pretty sure you're not the be all, end all authority on how to run a shoot :2 cents:

Grapesoda 10-08-2011 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilentKnight (Post 18478081)
I still recall a fetish-scener model we shot a few years ago who, after the shoot was done said, "I wish we'd gone a little farther." Evidently she was disappointed we didn't all get naked and spend the remainder of the evening doin' shit with the cameras off.

She wanted to scene, despite us telling her from the onset of the shoot that we (my wife and I) were simply (monogamous) photographers and wanted her to just model bondage.

She was a good model and we enjoyed working with her. But her comments at the end of the shoot stuck with me over the years.

had a model want to do a DP with me and the male talent after a shoot once... not my thing, had models ask me to fuck them during the shoot, rather complete the shoot and make the money... it's always about the money to me on some level :2 cents:

Deej 10-08-2011 06:10 PM

Whos the poor mother fucker with the miniscule penis...

junction 10-08-2011 07:39 PM

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My hand on Felix's ass, and Buffy's hand on my cock. I don't get what you're saying.

L-Pink 10-08-2011 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deej (Post 18478471)
Whos the poor mother fucker with the miniscule penis...

Chaz Bono, and that's a clit.

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Jakez 10-08-2011 08:03 PM

Wow, Paul do you realize you are easily the biggest hypocrite and troll on here?

Talk about needing a reality check.

epitome 10-08-2011 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 18478464)
depends what glass you're using and it's a really BIG world, pretty sure you're not the be all, end all authority on how to run a shoot :2 cents:

Do you touch your models inappropriately? It sure it starting to sound like it considering how you keep defending it. Sorry you're not professional but some people choose to treat this as a business.


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