car guys: Cadillac vrs Mercedes
 

so I see this: 2011 Mercedes-Benz CL-Class 6.3L V8 AMG, and I'm think my car, the cts v coupe, was about 66k. bit more horsepower and a bit less torque. you think caddy would be comparable if GM put another 100k into the car?

same with the vette, the vette is always bagged out as shit and then compared to a 100K+ porche or audi, yet my vette was 40K ... and new vettes now are 50-70K. (not counting the top of the line zr1, and what's a top of the line porche??? 180K)

thoughts?

(okay on reading a bit more I'm seeing 2 different HP/TQ rattings for the merc... pretty strange

http://www.mbencino.com/Los+Angeles-...6BA028099.html

BMW M3 coupe 60k 414 ponies.

never really been interested in BMW. although the m3 is very popular.. the weird thing about BMW is I never see the car being driven hard... I drive the mountains a lot and the beamers are really a no show on any driving skills set.... although around town you can always count on a beamer to cut you off or pull some other stupid shit... never could figure that one out...:2 cents:

All depends on what you are looking for. I personally would rather have the Caddy and know I didn't pay a stupid amount of money for a similar car. My Vette (Z06) was $92k, and I put $10k into it to boost it to 640hp. My neighbor paid $325k for his Ferrari 599 and after he drove mine, he liked the vette more. go figure......:)

With a difference in price, the lease payments are probably not as far off as the price of the car. This will show the you difference in how a german car keeps value and how an american car keeps value. I also see a lot of people with 10 years out MERCs, Rarely ever see a 10 year old GM car that isnt a piece of scrap. Yea, maybe not the CSV, but if you think its made any different then the Deville, except for parts that make the car go faster, its not.

I do like the way the new Regal looks though..

I have a clk benz with 190k miles and it still drives like new, with just normal upkeep. very solid car, my friend hit a dear @ 70 or 80 mph and had close to zero damadge. 99 model and still get compliments all the time on it. fo me, my normal driving car choice will always be mercedese.

I've actually heard that before from guys with carrera's and audi's

interesting point...

always buy non-american when it comes to cars. Sorry but america makes shitty cars. with the exception of old muscle cars, most if not all american cars require a ridiculous about of servicing and always have problems. german car can easily go over 100k+ if you do the regular maintenance which is usually free if you get a nice package deal. I love BMWs

+1 for merc as more quality car then caddy

my vette went about 140K with no issues... cam and crank sensor is it.. regular maintenance :2 cents:

so you think another $100K in to a gm won't make any diff, or did you not understant the thread?

The Caddy is a nice car but I'd get a Mercedes. Not the CL63 or CL65 but the 2012 CL550 4Matic with the biturbo v8 engine (it snows a lot here).

Cadillac = crappy yank car, built for yanks. Not driven outside the USA

Mercedes-Benz = High quality German made car. Driven in most countries.

having an issue with reading comprehension? the question is do you think gm could compete with merc if they put another 100k in to the cars... not which car is better... not sure what the deal is with blokes but generally here in the USA when one car cost 100k more than another car there is a reason... BTW caddys are very popular in china

on the cts you can have all wheele drive BTW

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...n-germany.html

just buy a merc.

simple.

Never been a fan of Mercs but i'd have one over a Cadillac any day of the week

I had an SL for 5 years. Only put 22k miles on it. Drove it like a baby and had all service at the dealer. Shit starting breaking left and right in year 5 so I ditched it. For a $95k car, I can honestly say it turned out being a piece of shit. The convertible top's pump broke. A $2800 fix. I used that top motor maybe 50-100 times in 5 years. Seriously fuck Mercedes. That new Caddy coupe is a fuckin beast.

yep, that's why the germans voted caddy the car of the year. very simple indeed
http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...n-germany.html

so you can't understand the thread either I take it?

I've heard about quality issues since Mercedes went with a more America manufacturing style... I'm thinking another 100k in the caddys and look the fuck out for sure

I like the extra room in the CL. The problem with a US car costing the same is perceived value. Not too many cars over $100k made in the US.

they dont cost the same, that's what I'm saying... I've read a few times that caddy is working on an upscale car to compete with rr... and they did an okay job on the v series... wish the interiors was a bit better made but hey... it's still a fun car to drive, but no room in the coupe at all... the sedan isn't too bad..

No, the Mercedes is still better in my opinion.

I understand what you are saying, but the perceived value a customer sees when you add that much money into materials, fit and finish to make a Caddy cost that much is going to be a hindrance. You'd be more apt to here people say, "$150k for a Caddy???" than "$150k for a Mercedes?" The Mercedes brand has more perceived value built into it.

many Cadillacs mfg in sweden under the GM marquee. as for the MBZ those star cars have some nice trannys, owned 3 new ones and 1 used one, never again. only way to do is to lease them under warranty then youre still fucked cause the loaner they give you is crap and you're making that monster lease payment while ur wheels are down

I couldn't care what they added to the Caddy, it'll always be an american car and for that reason ... I'm out.

I'm all for BMW and love M3s but the newest series weighs a lot. I've driven a couple as well as a 06, and while there is horsepower differences, the weight makes them almost feel the same. If they could knock off a couple hundred on the new M3. Wow

yes that could be an issue... not for me though...

your open mind will take you far :thumbsup

yeah but the cts v weighs about 400-500 more than the m3. that was the issue I had with the cts v coupe... the 1000 more coming from a vette... getting used to it now. that weight brings in the smoother, quieter ride

how about this
you just send me your coupe and all your problems are solved?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I owned a Vette, two M3's and two 911's, would I buy a Vette or Cadillac now, hell no, they just don't compare in real world or track day driving, sorry neither is there yet.

obviously you haven't driven a newer Z06 or ZR1:2 cents:

I like caddys but they fall apart
Destroyed a few of them

the problem with caddy is there are to many old beat up ones still on the road, and any tom dick or harry can get one. my brother wants a cts, and while it is a great car, and not cheap. it doesn't have the same prestige to say, I drive a benz....

maybe before the release of the baby mercs... not so sure now..

You did not base this on facts. Mercedes Benz has 3 spots in the top ten of "Worst Overall Car Resale Values". Cadillac has one spot too. Buy a Lexus or Infiniti if you want resale.

To answer the original question. Girls go, "OHHH a Mercedes." They don't do that for a caddy. Issue solved.

Forgot the link - http://www.cars.com/go/advice/Story....y=lo Residual