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NALEM 12-07-2011 08:15 PM

American sentenced to prison 2.5 years for Thai royal insult
 
BANGKOK (AP) ? A court in Thailand has sentenced a U.S. citizen to two and a half years in prison for defaming the country's royal family.

Thai-born American Joe Gordon was accused of translating excerpts of a locally banned biography of King Bhumibol Adulyadej and posting them online.

A Bangkok criminal court issued the verdict Thursday as Gordon stood wearing an orange prison uniform with his legs shackled.

The verdict indicated Gordon was to be sentenced to five years behind bars, but the judge halved the punishment because he pleaded guilty in October.

The 55-year-old has been detained since May.

***Damn*** :Oh crap

Fletch XXX 12-07-2011 08:27 PM

off with their heads

The Heron 12-07-2011 09:33 PM

It's not a secret you don't say bad shit about the royal family, why the fuck would you risk pissing them off when it's obvious what could happen?

BIGTYMER 12-07-2011 09:44 PM

Cane him!!

Farang 12-07-2011 10:19 PM

55 years old, born in Thailand and doesn't know the rules? ...

Paul 12-07-2011 11:48 PM

Ignorance is no excuse :2 cents:

Mr Pheer 12-07-2011 11:49 PM

I guess he thought our 1st Amendment covered him in foreign countries.

AnalProbe 12-08-2011 12:21 AM

They should have invited Borat, much less insulting !


marlboroack 12-08-2011 01:19 AM

Ok, so why the fuck would you be livin' over there. He deserves 2.5 years for being a douche.

TubeSubmitters 12-08-2011 01:39 AM

So you mean thai laws are the law in thailand? Thats so odd.

DWB 12-08-2011 02:54 AM

There are just some lines you don't cross over here. That is one of them, and probably the biggest one.

He got off lucky, many get 15 years for the same thing.

Hentaikid 12-08-2011 07:15 AM

Fun fact, if the first thing you think when you read about something like this is not"It's an injustice" but instead some kind of justification for the way things are, you might be an authoritarian follower

moeloubani 12-08-2011 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hentaikid (Post 18615574)
Fun fact, if the first thing you think when you read about something like this is not"It's an injustice" but instead some kind of justification for the way things are, you might be an authoritarian follower

Fun fact, if you go somewhere and expect just because you're American you don't have to follow their rules you might be a moron.

MaDalton 12-08-2011 07:22 AM

they do love their king and the laws are strict - he's an idiot

dannyz-zbuckz 12-08-2011 07:23 AM

He'll probably get off easy with a 'royal pardon' (what usually happens when a farang breaks the rules) and a nice ass kicking out of Thailand. But then again since he is a born Thai, they might not be so lenient.

AAB 12-08-2011 07:28 AM

Thailand is a xenophobic and lawless country. Rich douche kid who sliced Laotian girl in half got away withou any punishment because his daddy was rich. I would post the link to full story with pictures, but GFY twinkies would get offended. Don't expect any rights in a country known for no rule of law.

Derpy 12-08-2011 07:29 AM

Just because guests in western nations stomp on the system and culture all they want doesn't mean it's the right thing to do. He should have had some more class.

Phoenix 12-08-2011 07:33 AM

freedom of speech doesn't apply in Thailand i guess...perhaps the royal family has good cause for not letting anyone speak out about them...it isn't my battle, but this is obviously not right.

sperbonzo 12-08-2011 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hentaikid (Post 18615574)
Fun fact, if the first thing you think when you read about something like this is not"It's an injustice" but instead some kind of justification for the way things are, you might be an authoritarian follower

It is interesting, that when someone breaks a law in the US that we think is crazy, everyone, including Europeans, have no problem saying that it's a terrible law. Somehow, when someone is punished by a terrible law in Thailand, that's ok, and we shouldn't criticize it.... Instead we should "respect their culture".

By that logic, EU citizens and Canadians on this board shouldn't criticize US laws that they find offensive.... They should "respect US culture".


Weird.


.:2 cents:

L-Pink 12-08-2011 07:38 AM

When in Rome .......

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TheSquealer 12-08-2011 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 18615641)
It is interesting, that when someone breaks a law in the US that we think is crazy, everyone, including Europeans, have no problem saying that it's a terrible law. Somehow, when someone is punished by a terrible law in Thailand, that's ok, and we shouldn't criticize it.... Instead we should "respect their culture".

By that logic, EU citizens and Canadians on this board shouldn't criticize US laws that they find offensive.... They should "respect US culture".


Weird.


.:2 cents:

Thais don't feel its a terrible law. You don't insult the king or royal family there ever. They don't believe in that out of fear, they believe in that out of respect and love.

Hentaikid 12-08-2011 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 18615594)
Fun fact, if you go somewhere and expect just because you're American you don't have to follow their rules you might be a moron.

Lucky I'm not an American then XD

sperbonzo 12-08-2011 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 18615652)
Thais don't feel its a terrible law. You don't insult the king or royal family there ever. They don't believe in that out of fear, they believe in that out of respect and love.

My point is then, by that logic, then we should not criticize Muslim countries for putting rape VICTIMS in jail, or allowing "honor killings". After all, their people want that law, and they believe in that law out of respect and love for the Koran.

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AAB 12-08-2011 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 18615652)
Thais don't feel its a terrible law. You don't insult the king or royal family there ever. They don't believe in that out of fear, they believe in that out of respect and love.

If it's true that king is the reflection of his people, or people the reflection of their king, than I wonder what it makes the one in Thailand, seeing that Thais are xenophobic, corrupt and well... whores.

Derpy 12-08-2011 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 18615641)
It is interesting, that when someone breaks a law in the US that we think is crazy, everyone, including Europeans, have no problem saying that it's a terrible law. Somehow, when someone is punished by a terrible law in Thailand, that's ok, and we shouldn't criticize it.... Instead we should "respect their culture".

By that logic, EU citizens and Canadians on this board shouldn't criticize US laws that they find offensive.... They should "respect US culture".


Weird.


.:2 cents:

That's a good point. But I think it's because we have basically the same culture at least as far as the overarching institutions and principles of society go. There's a lower treshold for speaking frankly with your brother than some stranger. And there's also the good old "Americuh is bad" thing.

MaDalton 12-08-2011 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 18615652)
Thais don't feel its a terrible law. You don't insult the king or royal family there ever. They don't believe in that out of fear, they believe in that out of respect and love.

i asked a girl about that cause i was curious... they really love him, not just because they are told so. and they do not love all of them, just this one and the fifth

Dirty Dane 12-08-2011 07:59 AM

For those of you talking about Thai law, living over there, idiot etc.:

He has not lived in Thailand for the past 30 years, he was arrested during a visit there. His "crime" was translating something banned another person wrote, then posting it online. And that "crime" did not even happen in Thailand.

It reminds me of that Canadian citizen arrested and sentenced to death in Iran during a visit there, because he had distributed porn back in Canada.

Fuck censorship :321GFY

AAB 12-08-2011 08:03 AM

Pays off to limit your travel to civilized countries only.

dannyz-zbuckz 12-08-2011 08:12 AM

Quote:

He has not lived in Thailand for the past 30 years, he was arrested during a visit there. His "crime" was translating something banned another person wrote, then posting it online. And that "crime" did not even happen in Thailand.
He's an idiot to go back to Thailand having done that. Being born Thai he should have known better what the laws of his country are. Plus he's only getting 2 years and will probably get a 'Royal Pardon' anyways, so he's getting off easy, hardly comparable to what happened in Iran.

lagcam 12-08-2011 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 18615652)
Thais don't feel its a terrible law. You don't insult the king or royal family there ever. They don't believe in that out of fear, they believe in that out of respect and love.

100% correct. Wherever they are, whatever they are doing, most Thais will pause for a moment of respect when they hear the twice daily National Anthem broadcasts. It is quite a sight watching a bustling market completely stop until the music finishes. Real respect.

Dirty Dane 12-08-2011 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannyz-zbuckz (Post 18615712)
He's an idiot to go back to Thailand having done that. Being born Thai he should have known better what the laws of his country are. Plus he's only getting 2 years and will probably get a 'Royal Pardon' anyways, so he's getting off easy, hardly comparable to what happened in Iran.

Yeah, he should considered staying away. But their laws are more idiotic, and that's the point here.

mafia_man 12-08-2011 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Dane (Post 18615699)
He has not lived in Thailand for the past 30 years, he was arrested during a visit there. His "crime" was translating something banned another person wrote, then posting it online. And that "crime" did not even happen in Thailand.

The book is "The King Never Smiles" and it's a great read.

Basically it's how the Thai monarchy was almost destroyed in the revolution but survived and has been slowly grasping power back year on year.

It's banned because it has some serious allegations regarding the death of his older brother.

Cherry7 12-09-2011 04:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AAB (Post 18615703)
Pays off to limit your travel to civilized countries only.

That would be those without the death penalty.

Nautilus 12-09-2011 04:57 AM

Every society needs to maintain it's most important values, and although I do not like this law and do not agree with it, it seems to work for them. This guy should have known better.

Dirty F 12-09-2011 05:04 AM

Yeah i heard a story about a tourist who got into a fight with a taxidriver and ripped a money bill in 2 with the kings head on it. Also went to jail apparently.

Nautilus 12-09-2011 05:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 18615675)
My point is then, by that logic, then we should not criticize Muslim countries for putting rape VICTIMS in jail, or allowing "honor killings". After all, their people want that law, and they believe in that law out of respect and love for the Koran.

.

Well as long as they're punished for doing those things in other countries, and strictly encouraged to follow local laws and traditions, what they're doing back home wouldn't be much of a problem for anyone. Not saying you can't still critisize honor killings and other wonderful muslim "traditions", but I do not think you'd bother yourself much with this topic unless you witness those kind of atrocities imported into your own neighborhood.

Eyeball 12-09-2011 05:18 AM

You're right, he should have been let off because he is a good old american.

alextokyo 12-09-2011 05:43 AM

No one mentioned anything about penis envy or short man complex yet? I certainly understand their sensitivity. Just imagine being crap at everything and 5ft 2 with a tiny, tiny rice penis.

I wish I could hand out prison sentences every time someone hurt my precious feelings.

Kiopa_Matt 12-09-2011 07:41 AM

He knew what the rules were, so can't blame anyone but himself.

It's the same as you don't scream out "Allah Akbar!!!" when walking through US border control. If you do that, you can't really get pissed off when you find yourself sitting in a little room.

nikki99 12-10-2011 05:47 PM

I love thailand and the ladyboys :thumbsup


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