Obama administration comments on SOPA
 

https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petition...ative-internet

"While we believe that online piracy by foreign websites is a serious problem that requires a serious legislative response, we will not support legislation that reduces freedom of expression, increases cybersecurity risk, or undermines the dynamic, innovative global Internet."

You could look at what's going on in reality with this or just listen to Paul Markham and those that say "It will pass so get ready you dirty pirates!"

well as i predicted this dog won't fly

but robbie and paul hold out hope maybe the riaa will be able to buy enough voted to overide a veto :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

oh come on now. where were all the SOPA haters when the patriot act got passed. then extended by obama.

Needs a serious rewrite... Perhaps this time they should include the industry as authors?

Post #2 by the resident freetard, what a surprise.

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Post #1 wasn't much better, but it is on par for that particular tube boy.




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This is typical Obama. He first comes out against unpopular, and freedom suppressing legislation then when it is passed he "reluctantly" signs it into law. :helpme

seriously name one single time i have ever talked about getting something for free.

I was saying the same shit about that POS legislation all over the internet. Same thing I was doing when Bush was running for office (talking about that POS human) and again when McCain / Palin were running.

The sponsor of the bill already removed it's teeth, the DNS removal. SOPA is as good as dead, for better or for worse.

Are you the same guy who accused me of being obsessed with SOPA?

I don't think I've ever started a thread about SOPA.

:1orglaugh

that's just how the game of politics is played... :2 cents:

That's right freetards don't want something for free. They just don't want to pay for anything. My bad.

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What's funny is these idiots actually believe SOPA would stop tubes. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Start threads? Maybe not. Cry in every single thread while posting your idiotic opinions? Yes.

So does the guy with this copyright infringing image in his avatar.

https://gfy.com/image.php?u=14985&dateline=1295033520

Calling you a retard would be an insult to retards.

Please post a quote where I claim that SOPA will stop tubes.

You can't.

What I have said it that it would be like speeding tickets. People will get away with it
but those who get caught will pay the fine.


BTW: My avatar is a composite image of baddog and a non-copyrighted image of
Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas. :1orglaugh

UPDATE :

Clarence Thomas is not related to Spring Thomas even if he actually fucked her.

:1orglaugh

Isn't that avatar a parody? It's one of the lingering Baddog avatars from the "movement" last year. It's baddog's face merged onto Clarance Thomas. So it would fit the description of a parody image.

Is 2257 enforced at all?

I don't think Paul Markham has read whats going on with SOPA, I have, scary shit as usual http://www.techdirt.com/articles/201...-website.shtml

Once the legislation passes both houses, it will go to committee for reconciliation. And, who knows what will come out of committee.....I have seen everything change in the dark of the committee: Bo Peep goes in and comes out the Big Bad Wolf.

want to post a single example of that then

i have repeatedly advocated for paying for shit, most fair uses (except for access shift) require you to buy the content at least once.

An access shifting only applies when the copyright holder chooses not to support the medium. (geo locked distribution)

Prove it. Would only take someone sending a notice to GFY's host, domain registrar etc. and we could all sit around hoping they didn't get the plug pulled.

with your ridiculous definition of fair use why do you think everyone thinks that?

Internet should be unregulated.

:upsidedow

Obama said the same thing about detaining citizens without trial. He said he didn't like it and wouldn't do it, but still signed it into law.

I wouldn't get too excited though if you are against SOPA and cheering that the teeth were removed from it. Once it has passed with no teeth, you can add too it by quietly paper clipping amendments to totally unrelated legislation. For example, a bill about funding the military can simply have an amendment to add power to SOPA and nobody knows about it till after it goes through. That's how they kept adding stuff to the patriot act.

Not saying this will happen or that it's right, but passing a somewhat toothless bill then quietly adding to it using unrelated legislation is a very common tactic.

Internet shouldn't be full of criminals either.

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you keep saying that but never explain it

serious i have asked 6 times to explain yourself

The supreme court explictly ruled that you must look at fair use from the point of view of the user not the network.

Please explain why from that pov any of the fair use i have discussed are invalid.

No one wants to get into a 10 page argument with you spouting the same old "freetard" shit. Now hurry, the rest of your bowling team is waiting.

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yes you explained it, but it is wrong. take a look at the commonly used definition of fair use. they way you use it is simply wrong.

it is like to discuss dog training with someone who defines a dog as an upright hydrant for drawing water to use in fighting a fire. pointless.

it a true or false situation

present one single quote where i ever said anything about taking stuff that was available for sale for free.

either your freetard arguement is a bald face lie or you can present said quote.

Wow I like Obama again, awesome statement.

What many fail to understand is, all the things they are trimming from SOPA is so that it will grease through with ease. Once it's in, it will be much easier to come along later and change it, be it for better or worse. Being happy some parts are being cut out is being naive.

And as far as them not supporting legislation that reduces freedom of expression, keep in mind they did just support legislation that allows them to detain Americans and hold them without charge or trial, for as long as they see fit.

If they can pass The Patriot Act and sign off to have the power to detain Americans without due process, SOPA is no big deal. Don't kid yourself.

Sorry, didn't mean to steal your exact reply almost. I saw yours after I posted, but we're on the same page.

Obama administration joins the ranks of SOPA skeptics http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/n...a-skeptics.ars

DNS blocking seems to be the only major thing have backflipped on. The thing is, whilst that is the key issues for many, it isn't the only major issue for the tech industry. So long as the major tech companies don't support it (including Google, Facebook, Reddit, etc etc) who all rely on legal protection from user uploads, it won't pass.

The tech industry is simply too important to fuck with at this point. It is a huge engine for growth, and it really is still in its infancy. Given the US has the lead in this sector by a large margin, I highly doubt any of this will get through. The only reason it has got this far, is because the tech industry by and large does very little lobbying in comparison to the movie and recording industry. I have a feeling that is also going to continue to change.

I agree that it is huge and growing, however I think it's "tunneled growth" in that a
few big boys are making billions and hording the wealth. And one reason their growth
is tunneled is that they take content from people who could profit and only profit themselves.
Make a song that's a hit and all the profits go to those few sites and nothing for you.

So instead of millions of people making billions we have 1000's of people making the
billions. This will kill the economy in the long run. Oh wait, the economy is already dead.

1000's of people who served popcorn at the theater are unemployed because of
torrents. Tower records and Block Buster video are history. Barnes and Noble are
no longer so noble. So we lose all that to get Facebook and youtube.

Not really a great pay off in the broader scope of the economy.

you do realize that the copyright industry creates way fewer jobs then fair use counter parts right

look at apple it data center for itunes employees 49 people, the ipods manufacter in china creates 1000s of jobs, shipping, trucking, warehousing, and selling those things.

since the jobs creating the songs has to be split 50/50 because people would by mp3 if the mp3 player wasn't there, the fair use (format shifting) creates way more jobs.


auto scopic 3d has been around in a theater form since 1996
we still don't have personal cameras that can record autoscopic 3d.

torrents could have been a totally inferior experience compared to theaters if theaters had invested in technology instead of resting on their monopoly control.



8 years of content is published on youtube every single day.

every person in the world is effectively a news caster/performer/comedian.
all of who have to buy cameras and editing software, and computers to do their "broadcasts"

movies are being funded by the crowd.

if your consern is pooling money in the hands of the few rich, guess what your on the wrong side of the arguement, because the copyright industry does that to a far greater degree then the youtube world.