Zimmerman Medical Report Shows Broken Nose, Lacerations After Trayvon Martin Shooting
 

Well take a look at that. Must've been from his poker night 2 nights ago.
Doesn't look good for your poster homeboy "No Limit Nigga", eh brasmonkey?

http://news.yahoo.com/abc-news-exclu...opstories.html

any pics ( even shopped ??? )

Just because he has the injuries doesn't automatically make him innocent. If he attacked that kid and the kid tried to defend himself only to get shot, Zimmerman is still guilty.

I still think, regardless of the injuries, he will be found guilty. He chose to pursue the kid and press the issue. Had he got back in his car and waited for the police none of this would have happened. He chose to make a move and ended up killing an unarmed person. That's normally not good for you.

He'll do 15 years. Vigilante justice for the win.

Don't hold your breath. He's charged with second-degree murder and no one is going to convict him of that. He was clearly attacked by "no limit hahahahahah" .

I agree. For all we know Zimmerman attacked the kid first.

The only facts are Zimmerman shot an unarmed kid. The rest is just a guess.

Trayvon's autopsy also shows that he had broken skin on his knuckles, which supports Zimmerman's account:

I don't doubt for a second that he was attacked. The question is about what the circumstances of the attack were. The reality is only he and that kid know for sure what went down.

The prosecution has already made some mistakes. It won't shock me if they make him a deal and let him plea to something lesser that will see him do a couple of years.

Zero time for him

I wonder why.

But where's the physical evidence?

If Zimmerman attacked Treyvon there would be injuries to prove it. The only injuries on Treyvon are on his knuckles.

I guess Zimmerman beat up Treyvon's knuckles with his face :1orglaugh

Second degree murder? Unlikely. Involuntary manslaughter? Maybe.

He's not going to do any time period. He was attacked and had to defend himself.

With what is known so far, which do you think would have a better outcome for Zimmerman:

A jury of his peers or letting a judge decide?

But under current Florida law, if you attacked someone and they then shot and killed you, they could claim they were standing their ground. Someone following you is not a reason to attack.

Trayvon isn't here to testify and Zimmerman has always said he was attacked first. He'll be able to testify that Trayvon attacked first and Trayvon will not be able to testify that it was Zimmerman.

What's a judge or jury to do?

Zimmerman pursues the kid. The kid starts to run. Zimmerman runs after him, grabs him by the famous hoodie and stops him and threatens him. The kid tries to get away with no luck. He sees this dude has a gun so he is afraid and he hits him.

You tell me. If you are just walking down the street and a guy chased you down and grabbed you you wouldn't take action to make sure he didn't hurt you?

The bottom line is that we don't know what happened. Clearly it appears that Trayvon hit Zimmerman and Zimmerman shot Trayvon. How it came to that only those two know and for us to speculate is foolish.

All I am saying is that it looks bad for Zimmerman. The guy has a history of violence and he shot an unarmed kid that he actively pursued even after the cops told him that they didn't need him to do that and suggested that he wait for the officers to arrive.

According to brassmonkey and alike thats exactly what happened.

Says who? Amazing how you fail to see doctors reports but 100% sure that kid took off running instead of getting in Z's face with usual ghetto bullshit "You waz disrespektin me".

If it were me I would go with the Judge. The odds of getting any kind of technicality in your favor are greater with a judge and they have a solid understanding of the law. There are a lot of people who want Zimmerman to go down so you know there is intense pressure on that jury to take him down. They may say they don't feel it, but anyone who is human would and it has to be in the back of their minds.

How about the hahahaha who is an obvious thief doesnt act like a gangster and attack somebody out of the blue and then everybody gets home alive.

It's amazing that now some evidence has come out, like the autopsy, how people who were making arguments based on assumptions don't seem to realize they look like fools now.

And the evidence that this happened is where exactly? Because that's what's needed. You can speculate all you want, it means sweet fuck all if there's no evidence to support it.

Exactly. You know those words pesky little words that judges instruct the jury to remember, "beyond a reasonable doubt"?

Read your own words and let it sink in.

He wasn't the one walking around with a gun poppin shit like a G though... the Zim was. Homie had skittles. :1orglaugh

there is no way you can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Zimmerman was not acting in self defense there is no way he should get convicted here.

You have to assume one of two things happened. We have all heard the 911 call. Zimmerman ends that call by telling the dispatcher that he is going to get in his car and drive to a spot to meet the cops. That clearly didn't happen.

This mean either:

1. Zimmerman may or may not have gotten in his car and headed to the area where he planned to meet the police. On his way there Trayvon, who just a few minutes ago was fleeing the scenes, has now returned and attacks Zimmerman, beating him down and forcing him to use his gun.

or

2. Zimmerman hung up the phone then headed off after Trayvon intent on not letting him get away. At some point during this pursuit Trayvon is either caught by Zimmerman and fights back or stops running and decides to stand his ground. A fight breaks out and Zimmerman kills him.

Which sounds more realistic?

and what the fuck are you doing matlock? :1orglaugh

That is the whole point. I don't know what happened. I am only speculating. You don't know either. We know a few things, but most of it is a mystery.

I have no evidence that Zimmerman chased Trayvon down and tried to detain him. But then again, there is no evidence that this didn't happen.

None of us know for sure. All I am saying is that that while there is evidence supporting his claim that he was attacked, he still shot an unarmed kid and that is not good for him. Logic tells me that it is more likely that he pursed the kid and instigated the confrontation than the other way around, but I don't know that.

What happened to the skittles?

Based on what's out so far I'd go with judge, too. I'd like to think a judge better understands "beyond a reasonable doubt" while most jury members would probably have their mind made up going in.

I also think it needs to go to a judge that doesn't give a fuck about making a decision that a lot of people may disagree with. Not a judge up for re-election, or a judge that worries too much what people think. There are going to be people that hate the verdict, no matter what it may be.

this :2 cents:

and that :2 cents:

Its funny how the woman who "stood her ground" in her own home against an abusive husband will get 20 yrs. Zimmerman may go free. She left the house to get away from him but realized that she forgot her keys and went back with a gun and fired a warning shot. Now i agree that she should be guilty of something. But 20 years? She should have killed him. He was btw violating a restraining order. Its clear that the majority feels there is no such thing as "stand your ground" for the minority. http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_1...nd-her-ground/

Oh here we go again. What a load of horse shit.
Here's why she was denied..

Why do you keep saying he was fleeing the scene? For fuck sake, guy was 6"4, a lot bigger than Zimmerman and had history of assaulting school bus driver and was obviously going for tough nigga with attitude image. He could have walked to Zimmerman with usual ghetto bravado following one question - "Do you live here?" .

Then if its horse shit why deny her the chance to vigorously defend herself...and 20 years?

If we are going to use that same standard.


Clearly Zimmerman could have gotten in his car and drove away from the scene thus removing himself from any situation where harm could have come to him.