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Paul Markham 09-05-2012 12:04 AM

What will Romney do yo put the US back in the black?
 
All we hear here are the sound bites, yet to see anything that is constructive about solving America problems. I'm sure he has the plans sketched out and is telling Americans. So can people here who will vote for him tell us what his plans are. PLEASE.

BIGTYMER 09-05-2012 12:05 AM

Nothing. It's all political theatre.

mozadek 09-05-2012 12:08 AM

Cut funding to PBS, stop giving welfare to blacks, eliminate all business crippling regulation, tax cuts for the rich so they can create jobs, eliminate medicare and give Grandma a voucher to shop for insurance.

kane 09-05-2012 01:37 AM

Nothing. If he wins the democrats will likely still hold the senate and they will likely block pretty much anything he wants to do that they don't approve of just as the republicans have to Obama.

In short it will be four more years of gridlock.

The same is likely true if Obama wins.

Matt 26z 09-05-2012 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 19163980)
Nothing. If he wins the democrats will likely still hold the senate and they will likely block pretty much anything he wants to do that they don't approve of just as the republicans have to Obama.

In short it will be four more years of gridlock.

The same is likely true if Obama wins.

Bingo.

And since the average voter is too stupid to realize this, they will waste their gas driving to the polls on election day.

crockett 09-05-2012 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mozadek (Post 19163854)
Cut funding to PBS, stop giving welfare to blacks, eliminate all business crippling regulation, tax cuts for the rich so they can create jobs, eliminate medicare and give Grandma a voucher to shop for insurance.

Romney is rich but his company didn't create very many jobs.. They were in the business of cutting jobs. That is literally what his company did while he was there and still does today. They buy up companies in trouble and piece them out like a car at a junkyard then junk the rest.

Most rich people just want to keep getting richer and most do not create a lot of jobs. Businessmen create jobs and they come in all levels of society and the bulk are middle class. For every Donald Trump or Mit Romney there are hundreds to thousands of small business that employ 1 to 10 people.

Paul Markham 09-05-2012 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGTYMER (Post 19163846)
Nothing. It's all political theatre.

So why do people swallow it?

I watch these conventions and the first thing I think is, who's paying for it and why?

Then I listen to the speeches and they amount to nothing solid, then the wives and families from Stepford troop out. And I think, so fucking what. He could be a sheep shagger for all I care, can he solve the problem?

The Western World has huge problems as the balance swings away from them to other countries. China will not keep just producing plastic toys and iPods. It's got a Space Program, it will educate and care for it's population, well those who aren't fodder, and it will take industry and power from those who think they have a given right to it.

America has no given right to be the number 1 power in the world. It has some resources like farming, oil, minerals, etc. Yet so do many other places in the world. Orientals know how to adapt.


Hong Kong 1950 and today.

http://davidderrick.files.wordpress....-club-1928.jpg
http://beautifulplacestovisit.com/wp...g_China_09.jpg

Bejing 1960 and today.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2559/...010221f32f.jpg

http://images.china.cn/attachement/j...11a6c41e01.jpg

New York 1960 and today.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ine_1960_4.jpg

http://www.visitingdc.com/images/new...ne-picture.jpg

Who is growing the fastest?

beemk 09-05-2012 04:06 AM

Bad argument as usual paul. NYC was already huge and didn't need to grow. How about Miami?

http://fpc.dos.state.fl.us/reference/rc08100.jpg

http://www.jazzhostels.com/blog/wp-c...florida-cc.jpg

or vegas

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...cyFxXNxkJQ&t=1

http://www.visitingdc.com/images/las-vegas-skyline.jpg

Barry-xlovecam 09-05-2012 04:21 AM

#8 Offshore the US Treasury
#7 Outsource the US Marine Corps
#6 End Welfare
#5 Establish Soylent Green Plants
#4 Sell the US Capital Building to BP
#3 Appoint Solomon Brothers the head of the Fed ...
#2 Buy the KY Factory with your Medicaid Money the Ryan Plan will save ...

http://pics.livejournal.com/practice...s/pic/0005q6e1

Meet the Romney Administration Preview

And last but not least ...

# 1 Ban Hardcore Porn and put us all in prison
( or go broke paying lawyers).


How to outshit a bullshitter ...

wehateporn 09-05-2012 04:28 AM

He wants war with Russia

nico-t 09-05-2012 04:52 AM

Shut the fuck up, Paul.

bronco67 09-05-2012 05:47 AM

People are realizing what Republicans are all about. The next one that gets in there is going to rape the system for 4 years so them and their buddies can get richer.

I watched the Republican convention, and I've watched the first night of the Democratic. I just like the democrats message better and the crowd is more diverse racially. The Republicans just came off as selfish and negative, barely spoke about education -- and some of the shit that came out of their mouths was just plain lies.

They'll do nothing to get us back in the black, but you can be sure a small group of people will get richer. I can't wait for all of these old white people to finally die. We need some more progressive minds running the country.

bronco67 09-05-2012 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 19164031)
Romney is rich but his company didn't create very many jobs.. They were in the business of cutting jobs. That is literally what his company did while he was there and still does today. They buy up companies in trouble and piece them out like a car at a junkyard then junk the rest.

Most rich people just want to keep getting richer and most do not create a lot of jobs. Businessmen create jobs and they come in all levels of society and the bulk are middle class. For every Donald Trump or Mit Romney there are hundreds to thousands of small business that employ 1 to 10 people.


One of the speakers at the DNC said something along of the lines of Romney has made his money not by building anything, but by destroying. The guy is a corporate raider and it'll be really sad if that scumbag gets elected president.

ninavain 09-05-2012 05:54 AM

:thumbsup
Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGTYMER (Post 19163846)
Nothing. It's all political theatre.


Paul Markham 09-05-2012 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beemk (Post 19164184)

So for Vegas you show the casinos. :1orglaugh

Can't say about Miami.

Sticking your head in sand doesn't remove the truth.

Paul Markham 09-05-2012 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 19164296)
They'll do nothing to get us back in the black, but you can be sure a small group of people will get richer. I can't wait for all of these old white people to finally die. We need some more progressive minds running the country.

If Romney gets his way they will be from the elite who can afford an education. And they will think like their Fathers.

bronco67 09-05-2012 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 19164362)
If Romney gets his way they will be from the elite who can afford an education. And they will think like their Fathers.

new "old white men" will replace the old "old white men".

Tom_PM 09-05-2012 07:06 AM

The same won't be exactly true if Obama wins because Obama has nothing left to run for if he gets a second term. He simply won't have to give a damn about polls and whether he's viewed as re-electable ever again. That's the beauty of a second term. He won't need to "compromise" with people who want to destroy him anymore to look like he's playing nice.

Just Alex 09-05-2012 07:07 AM

Rectal itch

Freaky_Akula 09-05-2012 07:08 AM

He will continue most of Obama's policies the same way Obama continued most of Bush's policies. For Change, vote Gary Johnson!

Paul Markham 09-05-2012 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 19164399)
young "old white men" will replace the old "old white men".

Edited to make it correct. :winkwink:

What I wonder is why is the Midwest voting for people who promise to cut spending, shouldn't they be scared Romney will cut Farm Subsidies and spending in their area? </sarcasm>

No one who votes for a "Cut Spending" party ever dreams they will cut spending they rely on.

DudeRick 09-05-2012 09:39 AM

Great...
Now the senile old fucker thinks he can run the US economy!

Best-In-BC 09-05-2012 09:48 AM

bACK IN THE bLACK ? wHEN WAS THAT

Barry-xlovecam 09-05-2012 10:48 AM

Quote:

Obama:
Taxpayers Paying $73,000 Per Job Saved at General Motors !
http://pilogic.net/2012/01/28/update...rs-37-billion/
Quote:

Romney:
One of his (Massachusetts Governor Romney *) biggest wins came near the end of his term in 2006, when Massachusetts won a bidding war with other states, convincing pharmaceutical giant Bristol-Myers Squibb to build a $750 million plant at the former Fort Devens army base.

Romney touted the victory at a press conference, saying the state, with approval by the Legislature, had offered $60 million in incentives to the company to build its plant in Massachusetts, where it would eventually employ as many as 550 workers.

But records show the state only required Bristol-Myers Squibb to hire 350 workers to receive the tax breaks. And less than two months after Romney left office, MassDevelopment, a quasi-public development agency led by a Romney appointee, finalized an agreement reducing Bristol-Myers Squibb?s property taxes by more than $40 million over 20 years, bringing total incentives to more than $100 million.

The deal provided one of the biggest tax incentive packages in state history. And it meant that the state would ultimately pay about $250,000 for each of the 400 jobs that exist at the plant today.

http://www.boston.com/businessupdate...h2M/story.html
Now figure the income tax recapture time on the respective job initiatives ...

The jobs at Bristol-Myers Squibb may pay more but the current tax cuts reduce the revenue cash flow back.

It's less expensive to save jobs than to create them? :helpme:helpme:helpme

Paul Markham 09-05-2012 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DudeRick (Post 19164785)
Great...
Now the senile old fucker thinks he can run the US economy!

Well can you pick holes in my ideas?

If not, I suppose stupid posts are an alternative. So :321GFY

madm1k3 09-05-2012 12:53 PM

He will go to war with Iran and the Pentagon will hand out trillions in contracts to defense firms.

It will basically go back to the Bush/Cheney years of endless wars, but at least they will create a lot of new jobs in Iran

IllTestYourGirls 09-05-2012 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 19163980)
Nothing. If he wins the democrats will likely still hold the senate and they will likely block pretty much anything he wants to do that they don't approve of just as the republicans have to Obama.

In short it will be four more years of gridlock.

The same is likely true if Obama wins.

Well if you believe what the Obama supporters are saying and believe the economy is booming then gridlock is the way to go. :thumbsup

stevecos 09-05-2012 01:18 PM

Looks like its all fine until you read the facts, Yes we can pay more:2 cents:

U.S. Debt Now $16 trillion
U.S. Debt Now $136,260 Per Household—Up 50% Under Obama
interest rates near 0% 12 Months CD paying 0.90%
largest tax increase in U.S. history coming with Obama Care

The median U.S. family income is about $50,000. Family health coverage can easily run $20,000 a year — and rising quickly. In that scenario, the coverage mandate is essentially a 40 percent tax on that family, which is now required by law to ensure that every family member has qualifying coverage.

kane 09-05-2012 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 19165340)
Well if you believe what the Obama supporters are saying and believe the economy is booming then gridlock is the way to go. :thumbsup

I don't think the economy is booming by any means, however, I think it is slowly improving. I think one of the problems we have is that we are expecting to much too quickly. This doesn't mean that Obama has fucked up, he has, but this was supposedly the worst recession since the depression. I think it is fair to say that it may take more than a few years to fully recover from.

keysync 09-05-2012 01:39 PM

Found this interesting read.
Obama wrong about the jobs "he created"

kane 09-05-2012 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keysync (Post 19165557)
Found this interesting read.
Obama wrong about the jobs "he created"

Actually if you read the article he is correct. There have been 4.5 million jobs created since Jan 2010. However, there were heavy losses prior to that so his administration has only seen a net gain of 300K.

The question is do you blame Obama for the big losses in his first few months in office or do you attribute those to something he inherited?

Robbie 09-05-2012 01:52 PM

If it were me...I would take the reigns off the energy companies a bit and let them build the keystone pipeline (1 million new HIGH PAYING jobs...plus add the jobs in the towns along the route that will service the workers: restaurants, bars, clothing stores, gas stations, grocery stores).
Also the oil companies just found an oil strike in Alaska that they are saying is bigger than all the oil in Saudi Arabia. Let them get it out.

That creates high paying jobs, expands the tax base, brings in more revenue, lowers energy costs...which in turn lowers the cost of EVERYTHING.

I almost choked when Obama denied the Keystone Pipeline. If he had just shown some balls in the face of his cronies who are making bank on the currently non-working "green energy" then I believe he could have turned the economy around and be winning re-election in a landslide.

Robbie 09-05-2012 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 19165578)
Actually if you read the article he is correct. There have been 4.5 million jobs created since Jan 2010. However, there were heavy losses prior to that so his administration has only seen a net gain of 300K.

Nope.

Just watched on CNN today they were talking about this with Ron Emanuel.
There is a 500,000 job DEFICIT since Obama took office. 4.5 million new jobs happened. 5 million were lost.

And even Emanuel admitted that the jobs that have been created are low paying and temp type jobs. Nothing like the jobs that were lost since Obama took office.

CyberHustler 09-05-2012 02:14 PM


keysync 09-05-2012 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19165627)
Nope.

Just watched on CNN today they were talking about this with Ron Emanuel.
There is a 500,000 job DEFICIT since Obama took office. 4.5 million new jobs happened. 5 million were lost.

And even Emanuel admitted that the jobs that have been created are low paying and temp type jobs. Nothing like the jobs that were lost since Obama took office.

YEP! :thumbsup

Smoke and mirrors.

Robbie 09-05-2012 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 19164353)
So for Vegas you show the casinos. :1orglaugh

Sticking your head in sand doesn't remove the truth.

Paul you make the dumbest statements.

Vegas had less than 200,000 people in 1960
It has 2 MILLION people today

And the reason he showed the casinos...is the same reason you showed the financial center in Hong Kong. It's the main economy.

Why do you suddenly think you are an expert on the U.S. or world economy? You're from England. Which is damn near socialist. And you live in Eastern Europe...socialist. Both England and Eastern Europe are on the verge of financial collapse as well.

Maybe instead of trying (and failing) to comment on the U.S. economy...you should turn your expertise to helping your native country (England) figure out how they are going to keep paying out all the social programs they have when they are running out of money.

peterk 09-05-2012 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 19163843)
All we hear here are the sound bites, yet to see anything that is constructive about solving America problems. I'm sure he has the plans sketched out and is telling Americans. So can people here who will vote for him tell us what his plans are. PLEASE.

he will hire paul shitham to make sure ever house has the correct bathroom to bedroom ratio.

stevecos 09-05-2012 02:44 PM

Nothing to worry about. Wheres Romney's taxes:1orglaugh

A record 44.7 million people received food stamps in fiscal 2011, up from 28.2 million as recently as 2008. The cost has more than doubled in that same period, to $78 billion, One in seven Americans now qualifies.

Struggle4Bucks 09-05-2012 03:42 PM

Amsterdam 14th century:

http://www.amsterdam.info/nl/geschie...lattegrond.jpg

Amsterdam 1655:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ravure_dam.jpg

Amsterdam around 1900:

http://www.amsterdamsegrachtenhuizen...0640b16d38.jpg

Amsterdam today:

http://static.zoom.nl/A3D87B9518E294...-op-de-dam.jpg

on to the next 700 years

Struggle4Bucks 09-05-2012 03:45 PM

oh btw... Hong Kong was not build by Asians... it was build by Britain...


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