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GrantMercury 01-08-2013 09:05 PM

Rabid gun nut Alex Jones reveals his deranged gun lunacy on live TV.
 
Quote:

Piers Morgan decided to advocate gun control after Sandy Hook. That caused this radio host, Alex Jones, who has millions of listeners (listeners I'd prefer to never meet), to create a petition to have Piers deported.

Being the reasonable bloke he is, Piers invited Alex on his show to have a civil debate about guns. What follows is the most jaw-droppingly incoherent interview I have ever seen, in two deranged parts. The fact that this interview actually made Piers Morgan the most tolerable person on TV for 14 minutes isn't even the craziest thing about it.
http://www.upworthy.com/angry-gun-ad...interview-ever

:ak47:

DTK 01-08-2013 09:08 PM

I'm no fan of Morgan, but Jones made a complete ass of himself

Rochard 01-08-2013 10:48 PM

Didn't we already have a thread about this?

This Alex guy is a fucking idiot.

Dirty F 01-09-2013 12:28 AM

The guy is a complete fuvking idiot. And the type of people he attracts says enough.

CyberHustler 01-09-2013 01:28 AM

Mexico: Total gun ban, highest crime rate in the world

Switzerland: Gun rich, has lowest crime rate in Europe

England: Gun ban, highest crime rate in Europe

America: ???

georgeyw 01-09-2013 03:17 AM

Finally, someone who has some sense. How anyone can possible think Jones came off well in that interview is beyond me.

Rochard 01-09-2013 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberHustler (Post 19416359)
Mexico: Total gun ban, highest crime rate in the world

Switzerland: Gun rich, has lowest crime rate in Europe

England: Gun ban, highest crime rate in Europe

America: ???

That's not really true, is it?

The United States falls in just behind Mexico as having the most gun deaths. England has a lot less gun deaths then the Swiss.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ted_death_rate

candyflip 01-09-2013 08:06 AM

He was good on the Opie and Anthony show this morning.

Piers Morgan has gotten more exposure from this. His show doesn't fair well in the ratings, and it's CNNs top rated show.

They mentioned he gets about 500k in viewers each night.

Caligari 01-09-2013 09:39 AM

Jon Stewart made an interesting statement in regards to Alex Jones' rant which went something like this-

"We have people in the U.S. like Jones who are worried about a future dystopia while they offer no solutions to the current dystopia we are living in."

On the subject of guns, banning them is not the answer, but making them as hard to get as getting a driver's license is. How could anyone disagree with that? Sure you can have a gun, but you need to prove that you are responsible and know how to use it.

Big pharma needs to be reigned in. Too many kids diagnosed with "ADD" etc., and given dangerous drugs which cause suicide and suicidal thoughts, probably homicidal thoughts as well.

It's surely more complex than that, but it's a start.

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MaDalton 01-09-2013 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caligari (Post 19416766)
Jon Stewart made an interesting statement in regards to Alex Jones' rant which went something like this-

"We have people in the U.S. like Jones who are worried about a future dystopia while they offer no solutions to the current dystopia we are living in."

On the subject of guns, banning them is not the answer, but making them as hard to get as getting a driver's license is. How could anyone disagree with that? Sure you can have a gun, but you need to prove that you are responsible and know how to use it.

Big pharma needs to be reigned in. Too many kids diagnosed with "ADD" etc., and given dangerous drugs which cause suicide and suicidal thoughts, probably homicidal thoughts as well.

It's surely more complex than that, but it's a start.

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i do very much agree on this

SuckOnThis 01-09-2013 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberHustler (Post 19416359)
Mexico: Total gun ban, highest crime rate in the world

Switzerland: Gun rich, has lowest crime rate in Europe

England: Gun ban, highest crime rate in Europe

America: ???


Wrong. The US has the highest crime rate in the world, Mexico is not even in the top ten.

http://www.mapsofworld.com/world-top...ime-rates.html

Bryan G 01-09-2013 11:13 AM

Piers had the mother of the girl who was shot and killed in arizona on last night. She said that 85% of kids that are killed by guns in the world are in the USA?? Is that true?

Scott McD 01-09-2013 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Bryan G (Post 19416945)
Piers had the mother of the girl who was shot and killed in arizona on last night. She said that 85% of kids that are killed by guns in the world are in the USA?? Is that true?

Probably. But it's only because the kids don't have guns to defend themselves, silly.

http://askmissa.com/wp-content/uploa...d-with-gun.jpg

CyberHustler 01-09-2013 11:28 AM

Was listing what I gathered from the video clip. Alex Jones annoys me and reminds me exactly of my loony ex-grandpa-inlaw. I want to keep guns though.

grumpy 01-09-2013 11:38 AM

wow, how do you feel as a gun owner when this i a guy "representing" you??? And i understand no one supports him :) But he has over 100k signatures

Fat Panda 01-09-2013 11:45 AM

is alex going to be back on tonight?

Dirty F 01-09-2013 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 19416932)
Wrong. The US has the highest crime rate in the world, Mexico is not even in the top ten.

http://www.mapsofworld.com/world-top...ime-rates.html

How is that possible with all those guns???????
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bronco67 01-09-2013 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caligari (Post 19416766)
Jon Stewart made an interesting statement in regards to Alex Jones' rant which went something like this-


On the subject of guns, banning them is not the answer, but making them as hard to get as getting a driver's license is. How could anyone disagree with that? Sure you can have a gun, but you need to prove that you are responsible and know how to use it.



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This won't work, because common sense doesn't exist for gun rights nuts. Any change to laws regarding their precious guns is looked at as an attack.

Tom_PM 01-09-2013 01:47 PM

Said it before and will again. Jones should stop preaching to his loyal choir and move his show to the UK where he can convince them to re-arm their citizenry. He's wasting his talents here where you can get any redneck to agree with anything if it has enough guns and hot sauce on it.

Caligari 01-09-2013 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 19417210)
This won't work, because common sense doesn't exist for gun rights nuts. Any change to laws regarding their precious guns is looked at as an attack.

It will work if it's a law, the gun nuts will just have to suck it up.

U.S. had an assault weapons ban in the U.S. for 10 years, 1994 to 2004 and there was no revolution, there were no white guys in the streets with their AR 15's screaming bloody murder. It was largely complied with.

Of course now a black guy is president and the hicks have their panties in a bunch already, so watch out if a black man wants to take their gunzzzzz...

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DTK 01-09-2013 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caligari (Post 19416766)
Jon Stewart made an interesting statement in regards to Alex Jones' rant which went something like this-

"We have people in the U.S. like Jones who are worried about a future dystopia while they offer no solutions to the current dystopia we are living in."

On the subject of guns, banning them is not the answer, but making them as hard to get as getting a driver's license is. How could anyone disagree with that? Sure you can have a gun, but you need to prove that you are responsible and know how to use it.

Big pharma needs to be reigned in. Too many kids diagnosed with "ADD" etc., and given dangerous drugs which cause suicide and suicidal thoughts, probably homicidal thoughts as well.

It's surely more complex than that, but it's a start.

.

I generally agree, but I'm far more concerned kids being prescribed antidepressants like they were candy. THOSE drugs lead to suicidal etc thoughts, not ADD drugs.

privatesociety 01-09-2013 03:07 PM

Really made an ass of himself!

StickyGreen 01-09-2013 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DTK (Post 19417438)
I generally agree, but I'm far more concerned kids being prescribed antidepressants like they were candy. THOSE drugs lead to suicidal etc thoughts, not ADD drugs.

This is a serious problem that no one seems to want to talk about, especially the mainstream media... for what should be obvious reasons...

vdbucks 01-09-2013 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19416624)
That's not really true, is it?

The United States falls in just behind Mexico as having the most gun deaths. England has a lot less gun deaths then the Swiss.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ted_death_rate

So... you don't care if a lot of people get killed; just as long as they aren't killed by guns... I mean, that's basically what you're saying. Of course England has less gun deaths... and of course you'd ignore the facts on their non firearm related crime stats... of course.

vdbucks 01-09-2013 03:46 PM

And for the record, Alex Jones makes a ton of valid points, and presents a lot of facts that no one wants to address. The largest issue with him is he comes off as a raving lunatic, which ends up making more people ignore him than take him seriously.

I generally think of people like Alex Jones and Michael Moore as muppets. The best way to cover a lie is to tell the truth in such a way that people believe it to be nonsense, therefore believing the lie.

For instance, when everyone laughed at the idea of the existence of FEMA camps, Alex Jones showed everyone the link to the document from the Army's own website, proving they exist. But no one listened because he comes off as a completely insane madman. This is the problem I have with media frontmen who are supposedly proactively defending our rights and the little freedoms we have left.

Caligari 01-09-2013 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DTK (Post 19417438)
I generally agree, but I'm far more concerned kids being prescribed antidepressants like they were candy. THOSE drugs lead to suicidal etc thoughts, not ADD drugs.

You are correct that anti-depressants are a major concern, but any behavior modification or mood altering drugs including ADD or ADHD drugs are typically ill-prescribed and lead to life long addictions with a variety of side effects.

http://psychcentral.com/lib/2010/sid...d-medications/
On use of ADHD drugs-
Results showed that 48 percent of the 325 patients surveyed reported at least one side effect, most often loss of appetite, sleep problems, and mood swings.

So the idea of big pharma baby sitting your kids should be cause for alarm.

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ColBigBalls 01-09-2013 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19416624)
That's not really true, is it?

The United States falls in just behind Mexico as having the most gun deaths. England has a lot less gun deaths then the Swiss.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ted_death_rate

Listen posting comments on the Internet with no real facts to back up those comments is inherently factual.

kane 01-09-2013 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grumpy (Post 19417020)
wow, how do you feel as a gun owner when this i a guy "representing" you??? And i understand no one supports him :) But he has over 100k signatures

There was a comic several years ago that I saw who told a joke about legalizing weed. He said that part of the problem is that the spokespeople for the movement always seemed high. It was funny, but true and now we are seeing a different side of the movement and it is working.

Gun owners and pro-gun advocates can't feel good when someone claiming to represent them goes on TV and comes off like a rabid wombat. All he was missing was the frothing from the mouth and it would have been complete.

DTK 01-09-2013 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caligari (Post 19417608)
You are correct that anti-depressants are a major concern, but any behavior modification or mood altering drugs including ADD or ADHD drugs are typically ill-prescribed and lead to life long addictions with a variety of side effects.

http://psychcentral.com/lib/2010/sid...d-medications/
On use of ADHD drugs-
Results showed that 48 percent of the 325 patients surveyed reported at least one side effect, most often loss of appetite, sleep problems, and mood swings.

So the idea of big pharma baby sitting your kids should be cause for alarm.

.

I agree that all sorts of things are being over-prescribed to children. big pharma puts big pressure (and rewards) on doctors to push their pills.

This country has been sold out to big money interests in sooooo many ways :disgust:(

DTK 01-09-2013 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 19417468)
This is a serious problem that no one seems to want to talk about, especially the mainstream media... for what should be obvious reasons...

Sure, it's obvious to everyone who recognizes the mainstream media for what it is...:disgust:(

kane 01-09-2013 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DTK (Post 19417781)
I agree that all sorts of things are being over-prescribed to children. big pharma puts big pressure (and rewards) on doctors to push their pills.

This country has been sold out to big money interests in sooooo many ways :disgust:(

That isn't the half of it. Insurance companies also put heavy pressure on doctors to modify treatment. My mom was diagnosed with depression about 15 years ago. Over the years she tried a few different medications with varying degree of success. The insurance didn't want to pay for her to see a therapist on a regular basis if a drug could handle her symptoms. Her doctor found a new drug that worked really well, but was expensive so the insurance wouldn't pay for it unless my mom had tried at least two other, cheaper, drugs from a list. She had tried one of them so she had to try another and after a few months they learned it didn't work as well as the new drug. Then and only then did they let her get the new, good drug.

Basically insurance companies are now dictating your care. They want you on whatever the cheapest medication is that will make you happy and keep you out of their hair. There is a ton if drama going on right now with pain meds because insurance companies don't want to pay for newer, more expensive, medicines that work really well. They would rather have the patient just get pumped full of Oxycontin or Methadone because it is cheap.

DTK 01-09-2013 07:44 PM

Totally agree Kane. The insurance companies are the other half of the corrupt monster.

I'm really sorry about your mom's situation. She's far, Far, FAR from alone in being a victim of the utterly corrupt "health care" system in this country.

This needs a thread of it's own

kane 01-09-2013 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DTK (Post 19417808)
Totally agree Kane. The insurance companies are the other half of the corrupt monster.

I'm really sorry about your mom's situation. She's far, Far, FAR from alone in being a victim of the utterly corrupt "health care" system in this country.

This needs a thread of it's own

The good thing that happened with my mom is that eventually she got a doctor who simply doesn't put up with any shit. Many doctors just do what is easiest, write the scripts and move on to the next patient. This doctor fought for her to get the good meds and to be able to see a therapist. It wasn't easy and the doctor went way above and beyond and my mom ended up getting the right care so things have been turning around for her.

But there are millions out there that aren't so lucky. Between insurance companies and pharm companies it is a miracle anyone actually gets the right care at the right price. As you said, this could be a thread of its own.

DTK 01-09-2013 08:09 PM

IMO, you really need to audition doctors like people who need psychological help need to audition therapists.

So many are just worthless 'by the playbook' pill pushers

GrantMercury 01-09-2013 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19416242)
Didn't we already have a thread about this?

This Alex guy is a fucking idiot.

Sorry. I didn't see the other post.

And yes, he is. :1orglaugh

GrantMercury 01-09-2013 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caligari (Post 19416766)

On the subject of guns, banning them is not the answer, but making them as hard to get as getting a driver's license is. How could anyone disagree with that? Sure you can have a gun, but you need to prove that you are responsible and know how to use it.


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QFT. :thumbsup

GrantMercury 01-09-2013 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 19416978)
Probably. But it's only because the kids don't have guns to defend themselves, silly.

http://askmissa.com/wp-content/uploa...d-with-gun.jpg

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

GrantMercury 01-09-2013 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caligari (Post 19417337)
U.S. had an assault weapons ban in the U.S. for 10 years, 1994 to 2004 and there was no revolution, there were no white guys in the streets with their AR 15's screaming bloody murder. It was largely complied with.

Of course now a black guy is president and the hicks have their panties in a bunch already, so watch out if a black man wants to take their gunzzzzz...

.

Yup. Nothing drives the white male paranoia like a black Democrat in the White House. I'm sorry to say that, but I believe it's true.

GrantMercury 01-09-2013 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vdbucks (Post 19417519)
I generally think of people like Alex Jones and Michael Moore as muppets.

Moore has never acted the way Jones does. Jones is obviously batshit crazy. :Hollering

GrantMercury 01-09-2013 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DTK (Post 19417781)
I agree that all sorts of things are being over-prescribed to children. big pharma puts big pressure (and rewards) on doctors to push their pills.

This country has been sold out to big money interests in sooooo many ways :disgust:(

QFT. :thumbsup


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