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Tofu 03-01-2013 11:53 AM

Webcam sponsor complaints? Let's hear em!
 
* What makes a webcam program not worth promoting?

* If cams is so hard to push, what would make it easier?

* In a perfect world, what would you need from a sponsor to be successful (tools, WL features, etc..)?




I know I'm opening the troll-gates here, but it's a serious question, in an attempt to get some opinions on how we can make webcams work for you guys.
.

2013 03-01-2013 11:56 AM

Good Question... I would like to get some cam credits for privates from these companies since i waste my time promoting them and making them money they can pay me in tokens so i can get my jack off on!

Jayvis 03-01-2013 12:24 PM

Not enough Tofu

idolbucks 03-01-2013 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2013 (Post 19507007)
Good Question... I would like to get some cam credits for privates from these companies since i waste my time promoting them and making them money they can pay me in tokens so i can get my jack off on!

:1orglaugh

Easy to please!

:)

signupdamnit 03-01-2013 02:41 PM

Just QUIT FUCKING SHAVING. I make money, you make money. We're both happy. That's all there is to it. If I make money I will push the hell out of your program. If I make money with you for years I will be the first to promote your new site or program. The same goes for dating. You (not you personally but those doing it in general) may think you are getting away with it or being cute but you're not. The numbers directly influence my decision whether to promote you and how much effort I put into promoting you. You're fucking yourself in addition to me and soon I wont be there for you to fuck so it'll be just YOU fucking yourself. :upsidedow

I wish more sponsors would get this. There are some of us here who have been affiliates for over a decade. We remember you. Don't screw us and it'll be better for you in the long term. You won't have to beg for people to join your programs. We'll come to you!

Tofu 03-01-2013 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2013 (Post 19507007)
Good Question... I would like to get some cam credits for privates from these companies since i waste my time promoting them and making them money they can pay me in tokens so i can get my jack off on!

Will you push our program, in exchange for cam credits?

That can be arranged! :winkwink:

Tofu 03-01-2013 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayvis (Post 19507047)
Not enough Tofu

http://a1.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/i...d2aed0a4/l.jpg

Oh, there is PLENTY of Tofu to go around....but you'll have to share with these ladies.

AK 03-01-2013 06:50 PM

bump for more constructive comments

duk75 03-01-2013 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tofu (Post 19507002)
* What makes a webcam program not worth promoting?

* If cams is so hard to push, what would make it easier?

* In a perfect world, what would you need from a sponsor to be successful (tools, WL features, etc..)?




I know I'm opening the troll-gates here, but it's a serious question, in an attempt to get some opinions on how we can make webcams work for you guys.
.

* What makes a webcam program not worth promoting? -Ugly girls; -sassy rude girls; -Terrible or restricted free chat; -Very expensive sign up fare for the clients; -No model referral program; -Less than 30% revenue share; -No payoneer payment; -A lot of restrictions about countries of the users; -No interface in other languages beside english.

* If cams is so hard to push, what would make it easier?
- Free sign up, with some benefits from signing up, like unlimited free chat. -Free sign up with 10 free coins or credits or something, so they can get a little taste of what it is to be a full member.

* In a perfect world, what would you need from a sponsor to be successful (tools, WL features, etc..)?
Script to make a pop-up; the live models gallery (the one that shows the currently connected models), dynamic and customizable, like choosing only to show blonde girls 18-22; or something like that. Whitelabel is very important, it should be easy to configure, like with CNAME, instead of other complicated methods; and you should be able to change the text of general parts of the site, for SEO reasons, use a customized template, and be able to use google analytics and google webmaster tools.

Also the idea of giving free cam credits for the affiliates is a great stimuli, as promoting webcams implies a lot of effort, and it is very risky.


And, in other words, a perfect webcam site should be better than myfreecams, which is free for most users. Who is going to pay when they can go there and get things for free?
Of course, they work by tips. I think this is a better way to function for a cams site, than the typical fee per minute per private. And, obviously, I think no one that has ever visited myfreecams has joined another site.

2013 03-01-2013 07:43 PM

Something not many web cam sites do which i think they should are.... change the page around a bit , make sure you update it daily with special events , special models that are camming ect.. so that people will want to click.

AllAboutCams 03-01-2013 08:30 PM

conversion and reputation

Just because places have good tools means shit to me if i send 50k traffic that converts at 1:800 with someone else and does not convert at 0:50,000 with anouther place ill not use them

Also take dating gold do you still have the pop and need to ask for it to be removed

Its things like that why i would not even try a program

CyberHustler 03-01-2013 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tofu (Post 19507582)
http://a1.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/i...d2aed0a4/l.jpg

Oh, there is PLENTY of Tofu to go around....but you'll have to share with these ladies.

Lovin the pudgys :thumbsup

adultmobile 03-02-2013 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 19507262)
Just QUIT FUCKING SHAVING.

http://farm1.staticflickr.com/199/46...a33_z.jpg?zz=1

Tofu 03-03-2013 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllAboutCams (Post 19507718)
conversion and reputation

Just because places have good tools means shit to me if i send 50k traffic that converts at 1:800 with someone else and does not convert at 0:50,000 with anouther place ill not use them

Also take dating gold do you still have the pop and need to ask for it to be removed

Its things like that why i would not even try a program

When an experienced affiliate signs up for our cams, I do this by default.
Plus, we like our affiliates to contact us. This only gives us an opportunity to
speak directly to and customize our program to suite each aff's needs. We certainly are
not going to sit there and argue with you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2013 (Post 19507655)
Something not many web cam sites do which i think they should are.... change the page around a bit , make sure you update it daily with special events , special models that are camming ect.. so that people will want to click.

I know you usually say a lot of things in jest, but we've actually just redesigned webcamclub. Everything else you mentioned is standard.
:winkwink:

Quote:

Originally Posted by duk75 (Post 19507594)
* What makes a webcam program not worth promoting? -Ugly girls; -sassy rude girls; -Terrible or restricted free chat; -Very expensive sign up fare for the clients; -No model referral program; -Less than 30% revenue share; -No payoneer payment; -A lot of restrictions about countries of the users; -No interface in other languages beside english.

* If cams is so hard to push, what would make it easier?
- Free sign up, with some benefits from signing up, like unlimited free chat. -Free sign up with 10 free coins or credits or something, so they can get a little taste of what it is to be a full member.

* In a perfect world, what would you need from a sponsor to be successful (tools, WL features, etc..)?
Script to make a pop-up; the live models gallery (the one that shows the currently connected models), dynamic and customizable, like choosing only to show blonde girls 18-22; or something like that. Whitelabel is very important, it should be easy to configure, like with CNAME, instead of other complicated methods; and you should be able to change the text of general parts of the site, for SEO reasons, use a customized template, and be able to use google analytics and google webmaster tools.

Also the idea of giving free cam credits for the affiliates is a great stimuli, as promoting webcams implies a lot of effort, and it is very risky.


And, in other words, a perfect webcam site should be better than myfreecams, which is free for most users. Who is going to pay when they can go there and get things for free?
Of course, they work by tips. I think this is a better way to function for a cams site, than the typical fee per minute per private. And, obviously, I think no one that has ever visited myfreecams has joined another site.

That is excellent feedback! Thank you for taking the time. I know cam sponsors (in general) have their work cut out for us. This is the type of feedback that we can use to make improvements and make our programs stand-out. For example; the WL option is being improved upon (with webcamblub), but we are trying to make the best of it. We do realize that this is the most requested feature amongst webmasters/affiliates.




:thumbsup

georgeyw 03-03-2013 01:58 PM

- good tools for promo (embeds / rss of who is online etc )
- ease for new members to join
- number of performers online at any one time male / female / whatever
- conversion - if it doesn't convert = big fat waste of time

Vendzilla 03-03-2013 01:58 PM

Layout of a site that makes sense that lets the surfer become a member with ease.
A page showing me something about the model that shows me I'm going to enjoy the show.

The rest is easy

2013 03-03-2013 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tofu (Post 19509671)
When an experienced affiliate signs up for our cams, I do this by default.
Plus, we like our affiliates to contact us. This only gives us an opportunity to
speak directly to and customize our program to suite each aff's needs. We certainly are
not going to sit there and argue with you.



I know you usually say a lot of things in jest, but we've actually just redesigned webcamclub. Everything else you mentioned is standard.
:winkwink:



That is excellent feedback! Thank you for taking the time. I know cam sponsors (in general) have their work cut out for us. This is the type of feedback that we can use to make improvements and make our programs stand-out. For example; the WL option is being improved upon (with webcamblub), but we are trying to make the best of it. We do realize that this is the most requested feature amongst webmasters/affiliates.




:thumbsup

i am a member of dating gold i am going to look more into webcam club right now.

2intense 03-03-2013 11:05 PM

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2013 (Post 19507655)
Something not many web cam sites do which i think they should are.... change the page around a bit , make sure you update it daily with special events , special models that are camming ect.. so that people will want to click.


2013 03-03-2013 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2intense (Post 19510278)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

says the ro spammer :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

2intense 03-03-2013 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2013 (Post 19510280)
says the ro spammer :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

get a life loser

mopek1 03-04-2013 05:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 19507262)
Just QUIT FUCKING SHAVING.

I heard you say this before in other threads. What makes you think they are?

BTW, I'm not saying you're wrong ... just curious.

rowan 03-04-2013 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tofu (Post 19507002)
* What makes a webcam program not worth promoting?

Uncertainty about what the term "lifetime" revshare means. Seems pretty clear to me, but there's at least a couple of programs who have different definitions.

TheSwed 03-04-2013 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tofu (Post 19509671)
When an experienced affiliate signs up for our cams, I do this by default.
Plus, we like our affiliates to contact us. This only gives us an opportunity to
speak directly to and customize our program to suite each aff's needs. We certainly are
not going to sit there and argue with you.

Okay..so you only steals from unexperience affiliates.
Thats good to know
:disgust

AK 03-04-2013 09:37 AM

Great feedback .... thanks guys.

If you have the traffic, we'll do our best to work with you and and make it worth your effort. Contact Tofu or myself directly, lets make some money ;)

2013 03-04-2013 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bjorn (Post 19512134)
In my opnion Chaturbate isnt worth promoting, since they are sponsoring CP by allowing CP-spreading sites to be their affiliates.

(I have proof, i have informed Chaturbate and nothing is done about this)

post proof or be banned

Bjorn 03-04-2013 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2013 (Post 19512149)
post proof or be banned

I can email proof to admin or anyone who want links on email or aim, i cannot post CP links on gfy.

AK 03-06-2013 05:58 PM

bump for more productive feedback.. we're thinking of launching a program where we can pay you per free and additional commission for when the frees convert to sales. need more takers.

Tofu 03-06-2013 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AK (Post 19515233)
bump for more productive feedback.. we're thinking of launching a program where we can pay you per free and additional commission for when the frees convert to sales. need more takers.

And if THAT doesn't seal the deal, I'll eat my own hat (any hat you choose, as many know that I am a hat collector)!

AK 03-07-2013 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tofu (Post 19515285)
And if THAT doesn't seal the deal, I'll eat my own hat (any hat you choose, as many know that I am a hat collector)!

I guess I was responding to this post, but instead, i created a new thread.
:helpme

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1102359

Tofu 03-07-2013 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSwed (Post 19510604)
Okay..so you only steals from unexperience affiliates.
Thats good to know
:disgust

No, sir. I use that as an opportunity to educate the new affiliate.
If they'd like anything added or removed, I do it, as they wish. All they'd
need to do is contact me. I am ALWAYS educating the newbs and
helping out those who are just starting out! The way Silvercash, Curvy Cats
and others did for me, when I was a young webmaster.

AK 03-11-2013 08:51 AM

bump for more feedback, cool payout program are coming soon!

nikki99 03-11-2013 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duk75 (Post 19507594)
; -terrible or restricted free chat

lj ..............

Failed 03-11-2013 09:46 AM

I only promote companies that offer white labels. Increasing the value of my domain while making us both money is definitely mutually advantageous. The tools offered to promote my white label aren't incredibly important. Experienced affiliates understand how to make their own tools that work just as well, if not better than the ones commonly offered. The only thing I absolutely hate is not having some control over the white label for SEO purposes. The more SEO options you allow an affiliate to make on the white label the better. If I see your white labels ranking on the page 1 for popular search terms, I'm definitely more likely to sign up and put time into promoting than I would with other companies.

AK 03-11-2013 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Failed (Post 19522256)
I only promote companies that offer white labels. Increasing the value of my domain while making us both money is definitely mutually advantageous. The tools offered to promote my white label aren't incredibly important. Experienced affiliates understand how to make their own tools that work just as well, if not better than the ones commonly offered. The only thing I absolutely hate is not having some control over the white label for SEO purposes. The more SEO options you allow an affiliate to make on the white label the better. If I see your white labels ranking on the page 1 for popular search terms, I'm definitely more likely to sign up and put time into promoting than I would with other companies.

:thumbsup:thumbsup

Have you hit up Tofu with this ?

Tofu 03-11-2013 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Failed (Post 19522256)
I only promote companies that offer white labels. Increasing the value of my domain while making us both money is definitely mutually advantageous. The tools offered to promote my white label aren't incredibly important. Experienced affiliates understand how to make their own tools that work just as well, if not better than the ones commonly offered. The only thing I absolutely hate is not having some control over the white label for SEO purposes. The more SEO options you allow an affiliate to make on the white label the better. If I see your white labels ranking on the page 1 for popular search terms, I'm definitely more likely to sign up and put time into promoting than I would with other companies.

My man...hit me up, please. I'd like to pick your brain and give you a superior payout, in exchange for your time.

:thumbsup

JAPhoto 03-11-2013 04:44 PM

Good content, easy payout.

diablom 03-11-2013 04:49 PM

I like seo friendly whitelabels
I promote only these cams, which convert.
Sometimes you have to move to another sponsor and drop the last one who stops converting

amanda36c 04-02-2013 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 19507262)
Just QUIT FUCKING SHAVING. I make money, you make money. We're both happy. That's all there is to it. If I make money I will push the hell out of your program. If I make money with you for years I will be the first to promote your new site or program. The same goes for dating. You (not you personally but those doing it in general) may think you are getting away with it or being cute but you're not. The numbers directly influence my decision whether to promote you and how much effort I put into promoting you. You're fucking yourself in addition to me and soon I wont be there for you to fuck so it'll be just YOU fucking yourself. :upsidedow

I wish more sponsors would get this. There are some of us here who have been affiliates for over a decade. We remember you. Don't screw us and it'll be better for you in the long term. You won't have to beg for people to join your programs. We'll come to you!

Signupdammit, your whole thought process could be applied to camming sites, from camgirls and not just affiliates! Holy shit - my sentiments exactly! It seems the sites are all under one mindset and that is to treat everyone in this industry like shit. If they treated us well and paid us what we actually earned, we might *gasp* have the capital to branch out on our own and God help the sites if that should happen. Their very own subcontractors in competition with them! That'd be a nightmare for those that spent all these years trying to contain us, shut us up, control us, etc. Well, maybe you shouldn't have stolen from us. Maybe you should have paid us what we were owed. Maybe you should just take the advice of this forum and Go Fuck Yourself! I love this site! :thumbsup

Tofu 04-02-2013 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amanda36c (Post 19557064)
Signupdammit, your whole thought process could be applied to camming sites, from camgirls and not just affiliates! Holy shit - my sentiments exactly! It seems the sites are all under one mindset and that is to treat everyone in this industry like shit. If they treated us well and paid us what we actually earned, we might *gasp* have the capital to branch out on our own and God help the sites if that should happen. Their very own subcontractors in competition with them! That'd be a nightmare for those that spent all these years trying to contain us, shut us up, control us, etc. Well, maybe you shouldn't have stolen from us. Maybe you should have paid us what we were owed. Maybe you should just take the advice of this forum and Go Fuck Yourself! I love this site! :thumbsup

:angrysoap

I've never used that smilie before, but thought this was appropriate. lol
Anyway, that mouthful makes me hope you are one of MY affiliates. I dig that
fire in your spirit!

Hit me up. I'll be sure you get paid. On time. Every time.

BareBacked 04-02-2013 10:40 AM

Some of these webcam companies are running 3 year old tours

Get with the program kids. Your stuff does not convert in 2013


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