So was Zimmerman innocent, Morally, after all?
 

Watching the press conference with Zimmerman's lawyers..

Were we all taken along for the "ZIMMERMAN is a racist killer, and a wanna be vigilante" smear campaign in the media started by some fringe element with alternate (alternate to justice that is) civil intentions-ride all along?
What these guys are saying right now makes me suspect that the answer is maybe we were...

DISCUSS!

This seems like a good microcosm for a greater life lesson:
Never judge a book by it's cover:
aka, understand something fully and educate yourself about it BEFORE you freak out and form your opinion.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...XJvpmCx43ihMZb

http://moonbattery.com/social-justice-for-trayvon.jpg


It made for good TV, but the jury didn't fall for it.

oh look, a 17 year old acting like a 17 year old, fuck off door nob

So the average 17yo, when confronted by neighborhood watch, will attack the guy and grab for his gun? Really? That's what the typical 17yo would do?

Not an unfair question...

Bump for discussion!

I was in a pizzeria when this hit the news. I remember thinking how bad it looked & how bad the media was rushing to judgement. I couldn't help but lean towards Tm's side but something was telling me to wait for all the facts. As soon as the no limit nigga shit hit & he wasn't that little boy with the hollister shirt I said "now the facts are coming in"
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We will never know. Was only able to get his side of the story for obvious reasons.

Was there enough evidence to disprove his self-defense claim beyond all reasonable doubt? No.

Maybe a civil suit will find him 70% (or any % at fault) and award what they feel will be appropriate monetary compensation.

The juror writing the book has already said through her agent that based on how he was charged and the instructions the jury was given, there was no choice but to find him innocent. Should make for an interesting book since her husband is an attorney and will coauthor it with her.

But when the news of Zimmermans past surfaced you never one considered that they were kind of in the same boat, but for different reasons?

The night of his death he was wearing skinny jeans and a properly fitted hoodie. It's not like his pants were around his knees and he was wearing an XXL shirt. He was actually dressed quite decently for a nighttime walk for a snack and beverage.

When "everybody" believes something, it's probably wrong. We call that

Conventional Wisdom.

In America, conventional wisdom that has mass acceptance is usually contrived: somebody paid for it or stands to profit from it. :2 cents:

Interesting neighborhood you live in.

I guess in BC they do

Nobody ever said they were neighborhood watch. When presented with several opportunities to say "I'm neighborhood watch", he said nothing. Even the cops were dumbfounded by this. There was also no evidence that anyone but Zimmerman grabbed for a gun. If you're going to take only Zimmerman's word on what happened, then there are several versions to sort through.

when does zimmerman get his gun back?

Under Florida law he was not guilty. Anything else is speculation or emotional opinion.

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Sometimes the best part of a book is it's cover.

There is a reason you wear a suit to a job interview, if you want to be profiled a certain way, dress as such. :2 cents:

I don't know.

only in this country you can bullshit your way out :1orglaugh

oj some say he did im not too sure

kacey anthony

zimmerman

if i do something i get caught for im hoping for a good lawyer :2 cents:

Pimproll has a GENIUS owner!

fuck ya nigga :2 cents::2 cents:

I never have, if you should choose to buy the 'whitey fucked me routine' that's on you :2 cents:

zimmerman was investigated by the FBI for civil rights issues and cleared, cleared by FL of any crime... what would be the basis for a civil action?

anytime someone says racist others say white person even when zimmerman is hispanic and no white person or hispanic would identify him as white. only black people identify him as white.

When they told Zimmerman that the entire event was on tape he said "Thank God"

To me that is not someone that feared the truth about what happened.

True dat..

Under the conditions set forth under a criminal case, he was indeed innocent as the jury found.

A civil case I think he will be found guilty because the requirements are not as narrow and his full actions will be taken into account.

No matter how much shit ppl throw at the 17yr old black boy, NOTHING CAN JUSTIFY THIS MURDER.

Its a fucking shame how some of the Americans react on this whole case. Fucking Shame On You! :(

One more thing: I don't care At All about the color of the skin of all the involved ppl. It is a murder, and Zimmerman is a murderer, and there is a dead 17 year old boy in this story. :2 cents:

You think I own Dave's company? Dayum, I only worked a few years for them.

In my mind a grown man should of not have shot a 17 year old kid. Even if there was an altercation. The adult should of known how to handle the situation better. It is not like TM was a +6 foot goliath anyways.

The only one who knows the reason why and how the fatal shot was fired is GZ... And damn I would not want to be him and have to carry this burden for the rest of my life (as long as it will be). He as now a GIANT target on his back and no jury or decision will be able to remove that target.

Although he was found innocent by a jury, my view on this is, he DID kill a kid that did not deserve to be shot that night. He made the choice to do it.

Where is your outrage for all the other [undeniable] murders that happen in the US?

Oh, right, if some little gang banger kills another little gang banger, no on gives a shit... but god fucking damn if there is even the slightest chance to make national headlines on the [false] basis of racism... then by god it's a motherfucking outrage...

You people disgust me. I invite any of you wannabe outraged pussies to take a walk with me where I come from and then come talk to me about senseless killings of children (and people in general)...

GZ isn't white. From the sounds of it he wasn't racist. And he damn sure didn't kill TM because he was black. But don't let those facts stop you from being complete fucking morons...

Yeah, he clearly should have just let TM to take his gun and shoot him with it...

Ummm. NO, I wasn't talking about you, I was talking about DAVE - and I was being sarcastic, cause we all know he ain't no genius. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


Why don't you work for them anymore Tom?

Ah, so you were just trying to take a round about shot at me. I get it now, thanks for the clarification. In the future you can just insult me directly is what I'm saying, that works better, if at all.

NO, I WAS NOT taking a round about shot at you, I think it is clear that I was taking a Round about shot at DAVE - the doofus.

I believe the saying is.. whatevs

Can you show me this evidence?

Size of TM, he fairly big
http://www.ijreview.com/2013/07/6546...nt-you-to-see/

Are you sure that this was TM intention, to take the gun and shoot and kill GZ?

Agreed, he is big... but still a kid.

If a big kid in hoodie roamed in a gated area around here, people would call the police and let THEM do their jobs.

Exactly The Saying !