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wehateporn 08-26-2013 05:23 PM

Why Texas Bans the Sale of Tesla Cars
 
Oil State Texas suppressing the electric car


dyna mo 08-26-2013 05:25 PM

uh oh, this topic is going to make that markpricne guy flip out big time ,texas and teslas>? hahahaha

Seth Manson 08-26-2013 05:29 PM

If there are no dealerships then how do you get the car serviced? What about warranty issues?

L-Pink 08-26-2013 05:42 PM

That's one of the dumbest laws I've ever heard of.

alias 08-26-2013 05:53 PM

First step ahead toward a total ban on hipsters.

bronco67 08-26-2013 05:55 PM

Looks like it has less to with oil, and it's more about useless car dealers feeling cut out by the new car sales paradigm they're trying to promote. And yes, car dealers are are about as useless as someone pumping your gas. Get rid of the entire profession.

brassmonkey 08-26-2013 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19774301)
Oil State Texas suppressing the electric car


they don't want you saving money. i see a new market coming. cars.com/online site and they deliver them to you. :2 cents:

dyna mo 08-26-2013 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 19774330)
they don't want you saving money. i see a new market coming. cars.com/online site and they deliver them to you. :2 cents:

that's how they're already sold in texas, there is no ban on them, the title is misleading, in fact they have 2 show rooms in texas already. they show them the cars in the showroom and they buy the car online and it is delivered to them.

kane 08-26-2013 05:59 PM

I love when business owners scream about wanting a free market, until someone figures out how to do it better than they are then suddenly they want everyone to play by the same rules.

SilentKnight 08-26-2013 06:03 PM

I think people are so fed up with the oil and gas companies...they're willing to take a good look at alternative electric cars - if only just to spite the oil industry for ripping us off all this time.

I wonder what the Tesla's battery performance is in a typical Canadian winter. What does that 300mi. per charge dwindle to when the thermometer hits -20c?

mozadek 08-26-2013 06:03 PM

Residents of Texas should be up in arms, I was under the impression they are for less government intrusion.

SilentKnight 08-26-2013 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seth Manson (Post 19774308)
If there are no dealerships then how do you get the car serviced?

There's an app for that.

Plug your Tesla into a smartphone...diagnose...pick up the parts at Radio Shack or BestBuy.

ZeroHero 08-27-2013 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19774320)
That's one of the dumbest laws I've ever heard of.

stupid oil companies ... the "great ones" never respect Tesla at all...the father of the new era :(

RebelR 08-27-2013 10:57 AM

Its not the oil companies, apparently its the N.A.D.A who are banding together. There are protections in place that prevent Auto Companies from selling directly to the consumer thus undercutting the Dealership Franchisee. Tesla argues that since it has never had, or plans to franchise the selling of their cars, it doesn't apply to them. That argument has been successful for them so far in court.

I think that the dealerships are worried that if Tesla's model does prove successful, it will spur other automakers to lobby to get the laws changed.

MaDalton 08-27-2013 01:56 PM

and here i thought the republicans want less government and more freedom...

nexcom28 08-27-2013 02:01 PM

Fucking Texans

Vegas Ken 08-27-2013 02:10 PM

Another reason on how messed up Texas is :)

Seth Manson 08-27-2013 02:11 PM

oh yeah one government entity does something and blame everyone in the state, fuckin 'mericans

MattO 08-27-2013 03:08 PM

I see Teslas every fucking day now there are 2 within a mile of me so whatever

crockett 08-27-2013 08:28 PM

It's obvious Texas republicans support the free market and less govt regulation.... LoL

2MuchMark 08-27-2013 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19774305)
uh oh, this topic is going to make that markpricne guy flip out big time ,texas and teslas>? hahahaha

Thanks for thinking of me!

And no it doesn't make me flip out. It is kind of expected from Texas.

Then again I watched the video, and the guy being interviewed seemed to kinda sorta have a point. Maybe what Tesla is doing IS a violation of franchise laws. I've never read them so I don't know. The simple answer might be that big oil has a hand in this, but maybe this time, just maybe, it is against a law. Who knows...

I hope Tesla wins though.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Seth Manson (Post 19774308)
If there are no dealerships then how do you get the car serviced? What about warranty issues?

There's no dealerships, but there are service centers at their "Galleries". You can go to a Tesla Gallery to see the cars but you don't buy them there because they aren't a "dealership". You only look at new cars and get your current car serviced.

There's already 1 service center here in Montreal (actually, Laval), with actual galleries coming next spring I read.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19774333)
that's how they're already sold in texas, there is no ban on them, the title is misleading, in fact they have 2 show rooms in texas already. they show them the cars in the showroom and they buy the car online and it is delivered to them.

'Zactkly.


Quote:

Originally Posted by SilentKnight (Post 19774340)
I wonder what the Tesla's battery performance is in a typical Canadian winter. What does that 300mi. per charge dwindle to when the thermometer hits -20c?

at -10 Degrees the batteries deliver 70% power at start up. Built-in battery warmers can be turned on ahead of time to boost this. After driving the batteries automatically warm up bring available power up to 100%. No idea what happens at -20 or -30 though...

Then again, here's an awesome video of a Tesla Roadster in the snow.



The roadster is the smaller sportier car that Tesla had a couple of years ago. This isn't a Model S. I would assume though that the Model S does better.


Quote:

Originally Posted by MattO (Post 19775790)
I see Teslas every fucking day now there are 2 within a mile of me so whatever

That. is. Freaking. AWESOME!

I've seen 2 Tesla's here in Montreal, along with about 5 Chevy Volt's and 1 Chrome Karma (Fisker?).

I'm test-driving a Tesla on Thursday. Electric is awesome. My Camaro is for sale.

2MuchMark 08-27-2013 09:09 PM

Cool! Just found this.



In a drag race, a supercharged Camaro beats a Tesla Model S, but only by 0.4 seconds. Amazing.

Joshua G 08-27-2013 09:12 PM

ironic that the home state of republican free market whores prevents an auto maker from selling cars as they see fit.

you can build a roller coaster in your backyard. but you can't build a car & sell it directly to anyone.

:1orglaugh

kane 08-27-2013 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoshGirls Josh (Post 19776135)
ironic that the home state of republican free market whores prevents an auto maker from selling cars as they see fit.

you can build a roller coaster in your backyard. but you can't build a car & sell it directly to anyone.

:1orglaugh

Texas seems to be the hotbed of trying things and finding out that maybe they don't work as well as they thought they would.

There was the case where they defunded planned parenthood, cut funding for contraception and sex education in schools and now find themselves facing a boom of unplanned pregnancies. Another sweet one is a Texas mega church is suddenly reversing its position on vaccination when 21 of their members suddenly got the measles.

Robbie 08-27-2013 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 19775620)
and here i thought the republicans want less government and more freedom...

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 19776107)
It's obvious Texas republicans support the free market and less govt regulation.... LoL

NO Republican wants less govt.
They are the same as the Democrats these days.

That's why I became a registered Libertarian in 2012

I want freedom and a small unobtrusive govt.

Both Democrats and Republicans want the govt. to be in charge of your personal life.

kane 08-27-2013 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19776235)
NO Republican wants less govt.
They are the same as the Democrats these days.

That's why I became a registered Libertarian in 2012

I want freedom and a small unobtrusive govt.

Both Democrats and Republicans want the govt. to be in charge of your personal life.

The difference is that republicans say they want less government and somehow convince people that they actually mean it at the same time they actually grow the government while democrats basically tell you more government is good.

My personal opinion is that if you are a registered republican you are part of the problem. If you are a registered democrat you are part of the problem.

Robbie 08-27-2013 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 19776236)
The difference is that republicans say they want less government and somehow convince people that they actually mean it at the same time they actually grow the government while democrats basically tell you more government is good.

My personal opinion is that if you are a registered republican you are part of the problem. If you are a registered democrat you are part of the problem.

They both use an illusion...The Republicans (as you said) claim they want less govt., and then turn around and pass every law they can think of to force you to do what they want.

The Dems try to pretend that they are "liberal" and don't want the govt. in your bedroom. So they give the illusion that they are the "smart" ones who want to just be "cool".
Then Obama turns around and has the NSA spying, the IRS targeting, goes after more "whistleblowers" than any administration in history, and of course FORCES the entire country to buy health insurance whether they want or need it.

You're right... a pox on both their houses.

It's like pro wrestling. They give the illusion that they are "foes". But in reality...they are both just pretending to play a role. The real end game is power. And there's not any difference between them.
They just have different cronies that they are sucking up to.

kane 08-27-2013 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19776243)
They both use an illusion...The Republicans (as you said) claim they want less govt., and then turn around and pass every law they can think of to force you to do what they want.

The Dems try to pretend that they are "liberal" and don't want the govt. in your bedroom. So they give the illusion that they are the "smart" ones who want to just be "cool".
Then Obama turns around and has the NSA spying, the IRS targeting, goes after more "whistleblowers" than any administration in history, and of course FORCES the entire country to buy health insurance whether they want or need it.

You're right... a pox on both their houses.

It's like pro wrestling. They give the illusion that they are "foes". But in reality...they are both just pretending to play a role. The real end game is power. And there's not any difference between them.
They just have different cronies that they are sucking up to.

One thing that has always amazed me is how both parties can repackage the same lies and crap over and over again and continue to resell it to the same people and those people are willing to buy it over and over again. It is almost as if they say, "Well, they have lied to us the last 20 times, but this time I believe them."

What also bugs me is when people talk about having to choose the lesser of two evils, which, sadly, is often the reality. If those people would just vote for a third party candidate we would have a third party in this country.

MaDalton 08-28-2013 03:25 AM

as a footnote: other countries simply have both - franchise dealerships and in big cities the big companies (like VW, BMW etc) have sometimes their own showrooms where they also sell cars.

elmy 08-28-2013 03:41 AM

I want tesla car

dyna mo 08-28-2013 06:29 AM

i think there are some new bills introduced that allow electric cars to zip past the franchise laws in tx.

new york had the same issue, it was sorted out in that state, i suspect texans won't get a hitch in their giddyup either and pass the laws

http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dl...#axzz2X6nF59lb

HelmutKohl 08-28-2013 07:25 AM

Park your car billionaire style- Video
 

sperbonzo 08-28-2013 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19776243)
They both use an illusion...The Republicans (as you said) claim they want less govt., and then turn around and pass every law they can think of to force you to do what they want.

The Dems try to pretend that they are "liberal" and don't want the govt. in your bedroom. So they give the illusion that they are the "smart" ones who want to just be "cool".
Then Obama turns around and has the NSA spying, the IRS targeting, goes after more "whistleblowers" than any administration in history, and of course FORCES the entire country to buy health insurance whether they want or need it.

You're right... a pox on both their houses.

It's like pro wrestling. They give the illusion that they are "foes". But in reality...they are both just pretending to play a role. The real end game is power. And there's not any difference between them.
They just have different cronies that they are sucking up to.

BINGO!!!

Exactly....

And yet STILL people around here buy into the paradigm of "Republicans bad, Democrats good", or "Democrats bad, Republicans good". Such blind loyalty to parties that are both completely screwing us over in utterly equal measures with the same self-serving goals.


Pathetic.




.:disgust


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dyna mo 08-28-2013 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 19776129)
Thanks for thinking of me!

And no it doesn't make me flip out. It is kind of expected from Texas.

you got it! although it's hard to miss a canadian as emotional about texas politics as a texan. i grew up there, my folks were massive ron paul activists in the 70s and i got a big heaping helping of it. :upsidedow

crockett 08-28-2013 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19776235)
NO Republican wants less govt.
They are the same as the Democrats these days.

That's why I became a registered Libertarian in 2012

I want freedom and a small unobtrusive govt.

Both Democrats and Republicans want the govt. to be in charge of your personal life.


That would be fine and dandy if libertians were anything more than republicans in denial..

Guys like ron paul bitch an moan then vote right along with republicans every damn time.

They are just republicans too embarrassed to call themselves republicans.

Robbie 08-28-2013 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 19777025)
That would be fine and dandy if libertians were anything more than republicans in denial..

Guys like ron paul bitch an moan then vote right along with republicans every damn time.

They are just republicans too embarrassed to call themselves republicans.

You are full of shit.

Your ignorance is fucking astounding.

I was a Democrat because of their stated social views...but now I'm a Libertarian.

I believe in small govt. that works FOR the people. I believe in an individuals freedom.

The only person in denial is someone who is IGNORANT like you.

sperbonzo 08-28-2013 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 19777025)

Guys like ron paul bitch an moan then vote right along with republicans every damn time.
.

You clearly don't have a clue what you are about on this subject. No offense meant but you couldn't be more wrong here. Both him and Justin Amash have voted against Republican party lines MUCH more then they ever voted with them. Don't rely on political pundits for your info, look up the congressional voting records. They are online.

:2 cents:




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Robbie 08-28-2013 03:34 PM

Not only that...but Ron Paul is NOT a Libertarian.

He's "close" I guess. But he's not for what the Libertarian party stands for.

Or as Libertarian Pres. candidate Gary Johnson said: "I'm 'Pro-Everything'"

Ron Paul? He's against abortion. He's against people being able to decide for themselves if they want to use recreational drugs. And despite the things he said about cutting back the govt., we would STILL have a huge govt. involved in our lives from cradle to grave.

A real Libertarian doesn't accept Ron Paul as a Libertarian at all.

He's "close". But not in the ways that really matter to me.

And "close" only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades. lol

It would be like taking a RINO Republican from the NorthEast and trying to tell Democrats that he's "really" a Democrat.
Nope.

Or taking a "conservative" Democrat and trying to tell Republicans he's "really" a Republican.
Nope.

Ron Paul isn't a Libertarian. That's just a tag that his political opponents put on him to make him look unacceptable to their bible thumping base.

CAHEK 08-28-2013 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilentKnight (Post 19774340)
I think people are so fed up with the oil and gas companies...they're willing to take a good look at alternative electric cars - if only just to spite the oil industry for ripping us off all this time.

I wonder what the Tesla's battery performance is in a typical Canadian winter. What does that 300mi. per charge dwindle to when the thermometer hits -20c?

-10°C that might drop to about 260km
-20°C that might drop to about 200km
-30°C that might drop to about 150km

NinjaSteve 08-28-2013 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 19776222)
Texas seems to be the hotbed of trying things and finding out that maybe they don't work as well as they thought they would.

There was the case where they defunded planned parenthood, cut funding for contraception and sex education in schools and now find themselves facing a boom of unplanned pregnancies. Another sweet one is a Texas mega church is suddenly reversing its position on vaccination when 21 of their members suddenly got the measles.

Man... if only they would have franchised. It's the Texas way! :pimp


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