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candyflip 04-27-2014 09:31 AM

Operation Choke Point
 
Looks like the DOJ is strong arming the banks in an effort to shut down certain businesses and porn is a target.

https://news.vice.com/articles/is-th...ource=vicefbus

CheeseFrog 04-27-2014 11:53 AM

It looks like Chase is closing the accounts of adult performers that they've been able to identify. More specifically, Chase has been closing the accounts of adult performers and producers who have openly shot girl/girl scenes, which leads me to believe that Chase has something against gays/lesbians. Maybe a boycott of Chase is in order for being against gay rights? ;)

Grapesoda 04-27-2014 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 20064804)
Looks like the DOJ is strong arming the banks in an effort to shut down certain businesses and porn is a target.

https://news.vice.com/articles/is-th...ource=vicefbus

Some merchant categories that have been associated with high-risk activity include, but are not limited to:


?Ammunition Sales
?Cable Box De-scramblers
?Coin Dealers
?Credit Card Schemes
?Credit Repair Services
?Dating Services
?Debt Consolidation Scams
?Drug Paraphernalia
?Escort Services
?Firearms Sales
?Fireworks Sales
?Get Rich Products
?Government Grants
?Home-Based Charities
?Life-Time Guarantees
?Life-Time Memberships
?Lottery Sales
?Mailing Lists/Personal Info
?Money Transfer Networks
?On-line Gambling
?PayDay Loans
?Pharmaceutical Sales
?Ponzi Schemes
?Pornography
?Pyramid-Type Sales
?Racist Materials
?Surveillance Equipment
?Telemarketing
?Tobacco Sales
?Travel Clubs

Harmon 04-27-2014 11:56 AM

This was already discussed, am I wrong?

Robbie 04-27-2014 12:00 PM

So the Department Of Justice is doing this under Pres. Obama's watch?

I thought this kind of shit was only supposed to happen under "conservative" President's and their DOJ's. :(

candyflip 04-27-2014 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Harmon (Post 20064946)
This was already discussed, am I wrong?

The actual closings, yes. But I don't recall anything being mentioned about the DOJ until seeing this on Vice.

DVTimes 04-27-2014 03:43 PM

http://stopthechoke.com/

Relentless 04-27-2014 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20064949)
So the Department Of Justice is doing this under Pres. Obama's watch?
I thought this kind of shit was only supposed to happen under "conservative" President's and their DOJ's. :(

One is diet coke the other is caffeine free coke.
Two brands, same owners.

beerptrol 04-27-2014 06:13 PM

Don't worry! Your "Operation Choke The Chicken" will be OK!

Dvae 04-27-2014 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20064949)
So the Department Of Justice is doing this under Pres. Obama's watch?

:(

Yes, but its Bushs fault.

Robbie 04-27-2014 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dvae (Post 20065209)
Yes, but its Bushs fault.

Of course it is!

InfoGuy 04-27-2014 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harmon (Post 20064946)
This was already discussed, am I wrong?

It's in the other thread.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 20062827)
Well Im starting to hear that Chase is doing this at the request of DOJ as a part of Operation Choke Point or Hold...

Google either for more info... Here's one story from some US patriot site...

http://freepatriot.org/2014/01/10/er...s-abuse-power/


tony286 04-27-2014 07:27 PM

If u read the article it's maybe, could be, they are guessing and adding in bankers statements that have to do with the real reason of the operation to cut pay day lenders and fraud.which is pissing bankers off because payday loans are big money. Think about it if that was job one why only chase?

2MuchMark 04-27-2014 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20064949)
So the Department Of Justice is doing this under Pres. Obama's watch?

I thought this kind of shit was only supposed to happen under "conservative" President's and their DOJ's. :(

First Bengazi, now porn!

2MuchMark 04-27-2014 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 20065103)

"Taking away your guns" - Lol!

candyflip 04-28-2014 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 20065231)
If u read the article it's maybe, could be, they are guessing and adding in bankers statements that have to do with the real reason of the operation to cut pay day lenders and fraud.which is pissing bankers off because payday loans are big money. Think about it if that was job one why only chase?

It's not only Chase.

blackmonsters 04-28-2014 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20064949)
So the Department Of Justice is doing this under Pres. Obama's watch?

I thought this kind of shit was only supposed to happen under "conservative" President's and their DOJ's. :(

Well, now we lose.
The subject went from 2 banks to all they way up to the president who doesn't work at the bank.

The whole purpose of the thread is now lost.

Paypal did the same shit 10 years ago.
Visa slapped on $700 fees too.

Vendzilla 04-29-2014 02:47 PM

This can't be right, I mean most in this industry support Obama and his administration, he would never do anything like close the bank accounts of porn people. Thus killing porn in the us.
Make it impossible to buy ammo, thus ending the right to have a gun.

This would kill off a lot of business and make a bunch more people be on minimum wages, great plan!

Robbie 04-29-2014 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20066079)
Paypal did the same shit 10 years ago.
Visa slapped on $700 fees too.

Totally different situation. Paypal, Visa, American Express all did things that have to do with MERCHANT ACCOUNTS & CREDIT CARD PROCESSING.
Adult is considered "high risk" for that because so many people do chargebacks.

Has NOTHING to do with a person or business regular bank account. :)

kane 04-29-2014 07:50 PM

I was refused banking services because I am in the adult business like 10 years ago. Also, didn't Bank America do something similar to a bunch of people a while back?

This is nothing new. Is there any actual proof that this has anything to do with the government and not just some puritanical board member?

Vendzilla 04-30-2014 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 20068240)
Is there any actual proof that this has anything to do with the government and not just some puritanical board member?

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...on-Choke-Point

http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2014/01/...ype=blogs&_r=0

http://www.americanbanker.com/bankth...1067013-1.html

http://reason.com/blog/2014/04/28/do...and-porn-stars

https://news.vice.com/articles/is-th...ge-in-the-news

kane 04-30-2014 02:11 AM

All of those pretty much say the same thing. the DOJ put this thing into action to help curb shady payday loan places and the bank is taking it a little too far or maybe using it to get rid of customers they otherwise wouldn't be able to get rid of.

There doesn't seem to be any actual evidence that shows that the DOJ has told banks to close adult stars accounts. If they had, why is it that Chase is the only bank acting?

Vendzilla 04-30-2014 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 20068546)
All of those pretty much say the same thing. the DOJ put this thing into action to help curb shady payday loan places and the bank is taking it a little too far or maybe using it to get rid of customers they otherwise wouldn't be able to get rid of.

There doesn't seem to be any actual evidence that shows that the DOJ has told banks to close adult stars accounts. If they had, why is it that Chase is the only bank acting?



Maybe you will believe an industry news source?
http://www.xbiz.com/news/news_piece....l&q=Chase+bank


Says Chase told them to leave and BOA refused her

kane 04-30-2014 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20068557)
Maybe you will believe an industry news source?
http://www.xbiz.com/news/news_piece....l&q=Chase+bank


Says Chase told them to leave and BOA refused her

I never said Chase didn't do these things. I said it seems like Chase is the only one doing these things and there doesn't seem to be any actual evidence that shows that the DOJ told them to do so.

That they got declined by BOA is no shocker. As I posted above, it wasn't too long ago that BOA purged most of their adult companies.

Vendzilla 04-30-2014 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 20068565)
I never said Chase didn't do these things. I said it seems like Chase is the only one doing these things and there doesn't seem to be any actual evidence that shows that the DOJ told them to do so.

That they got declined by BOA is no shocker. As I posted above, it wasn't too long ago that BOA purged most of their adult companies.

Did the teller have a list to go by at BOA to deny an account? Because she would have used her real name

kane 04-30-2014 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20068887)
Did the teller have a list to go by at BOA to deny an account? Because she would have used her real name

I have no idea. I wasn't there. What I know is that BOA closed adult accounts years ago.

Vendzilla 04-30-2014 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 20069365)
I have no idea. I wasn't there. What I know is that BOA closed adult accounts years ago.

I remember that, just wouldn't put it past the DOJ to have something to do with that from what I have been reading

tony286 04-30-2014 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20068557)
Maybe you will believe an industry news source?
http://www.xbiz.com/news/news_piece....l&q=Chase+bank


Says Chase told them to leave and BOA refused her

we are assuming alot. You dont know if she bounced checks, did her credit score suck? You would get kicked out of one bank and turned away from another even if she was nun if that is the case.

Vendzilla 04-30-2014 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 20069564)
we are assuming alot. You dont know if she bounced checks, did her credit score suck? You would get kicked out of one bank and turned away from another even if she was nun if that is the case.

Read the Xbiz article, it's happening to more than a couple people

Robbie 04-30-2014 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 20069564)
we are assuming alot. You dont know if she bounced checks, did her credit score suck? You would get kicked out of one bank and turned away from another even if she was nun if that is the case.

Tony you might be in denial...Baby Jesus Obama is letting you down AGAIN! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

If he isn't busy sending drones to kill people, or having the IRS target his opponents, or having the NSA spy on people worldwide...he's having the DOJ come after marijuana dispensaries and now porn stars bank accounts.

The shine sure came off of him didn't it?

tony286 04-30-2014 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20069690)
Tony you might be in denial...Baby Jesus Obama is letting you down AGAIN! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

If he isn't busy sending drones to kill people, or having the IRS target his opponents, or having the NSA spy on people worldwide...he's having the DOJ come after marijuana dispensaries and now porn stars bank accounts.

The shine sure came off of him didn't it?

brother i didn't vote for him last time. I'm just practicing common sense.

tony286 04-30-2014 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20069614)
Read the Xbiz article, it's happening to more than a couple people

and how do they know it was send to 100's of porn stars? First there aren't 100's of porn stars. And if you wanted to fuck with porn, fucking porn models does nothing.

Robbie 04-30-2014 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 20069737)
brother i didn't vote for him last time. I'm just practicing common sense.

Can't help it...your balls need busting. lol

And you know if this was Bush in office, you would be screaming! :1orglaugh

tony286 04-30-2014 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20069741)
Can't help it...your balls need busting. lol

And you know if this was Bush in office, you would be screaming! :1orglaugh

2257 yes, this i don't think so because I don't think they are targeting adult. You are extremely smart, so think about it. You want to get rid of porn you're going to fuck with porn models.

Vendzilla 04-30-2014 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 20069740)
and how do they know it was send to 100's of porn stars? First there aren't 100's of porn stars. And if you wanted to fuck with porn, fucking porn models does nothing.

LOL, you should visit freeones, they have 32,000 listings

Porn.com has over 19,000 listings for porn stars

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 20069748)
2257 yes, this i don't think so because I don't think they are targeting adult. You are extremely smart, so think about it. You want to get rid of porn you're going to fuck with porn models.

If you make it so a porn star can't have a bank account, take away the money and there will be very little left.

It's like guns, they are making it hard to buy bullets, thus getting rid of guns

Sneaky fucks

baddog 04-30-2014 06:38 PM

I love the reliances used as news sources

Vendzilla 04-30-2014 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 20069816)
I love the reliances used as news sources

Like Xbiz?

Vendzilla 04-30-2014 06:43 PM

Looks like Wells Fargo just joined the band wagon
http://www.xbiz.com/news/178426

kane 04-30-2014 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20069800)
LOL, you should visit freeones, they have 32,000 listings

Porn.com has over 19,000 listings for porn stars



If you make it so a porn star can't have a bank account, take away the money and there will be very little left.

It's like guns, they are making it hard to buy bullets, thus getting rid of guns

Sneaky fucks

If you have Netflix you should check out a show by Morgan Spurlock called "Inside Man." In each episode he looks into a hot button issue from many different angles. One of them is gun control. For part of it he went to work at a gun shop for a little while to meet the people who were buying guns. Two weeks after the Sandy Hook shooting when the government started talking about gun regulations he went back to see how it had affected their business. Half the store was empty. In a matter of a few days they had sold out of much of to stock and he said in some cases the gun manufacturers were telling them it could be 24 months until they could get more.

To me it looked like the perfect formula. You take a little fear, mix it with some misinformation and then restrict supply and you can drive the prices through the roof.

kane 04-30-2014 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20069820)
Looks like Wells Fargo just joined the band wagon
http://www.xbiz.com/news/178426

So Wells Fargo is now offering to help these pornstars and offering them banking services. But, wait, didn't the DOJ tell the banks to shut down pornstar accounts? How can this be then?

:winkwink:


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