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wehateporn 04-27-2014 05:13 PM

Former NASA Scientist: Global Warming is Nonsense
 

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-L...ng-is-Nonsense

"A former NASA scientist has described global warming as "nonsense", dismissing the theory of man-made climate change as "an unsubstantiated hypothesis" and saying that it is "absolutely stupid" to blame the recent UK floods on human activity.

Professor Les Woodcock, who has had a long and distinguished academic career, also said there is "no reproducible evidence" that carbon dioxide levels have increased over the past century, and blamed the green movement for inflicting economic damage on ordinary people.

Professor Woodcock is Emeritus Professor of Chemical Thermodynamics at the University of Manchester and has authored over 70 academic papers for a wide range of scientific journals. He received his PhD from the University of London, and is a Fellow of the Royal Society of Chemistry, a recipient of a Max Planck Society Visiting Fellowship, and a founding editor the journal Molecular Simulation. (h/t Climate Depot)

Professor Woodcock told the Yorkshire Evening Post:

"The term 'climate change' is meaningless. The Earth's climate has been changing since time immemorial, that is since the Earth was formed 1,000 million years ago. The theory of 'man-made climate change' is an unsubstantiated hypothesis [about] our climate [which says it] has been adversely affected by the burning of fossil fuels in the last 100 years, causing the average temperature on the earth?s surface to increase very slightly but with disastrous environmental consequences.

"The theory is that the CO2 emitted by burning fossil fuel is the 'greenhouse gas' causes 'global warming' - in fact, water is a much more powerful greenhouse gas and there is 20 time more of it in our atmosphere (around one per cent of the atmosphere) whereas CO2 is only 0.04 per cent.

"There is no reproducible scientific evidence CO2 has significantly increased in the last 100 years."

He also said:

"Even the term 'global warming' does not mean anything unless you give it a time scale. The temperature of the earth has been going up and down for millions of years, if there are extremes, it's nothing to do with carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, it's not permanent and it's not caused by us. Global warming is nonsense."

Continued http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-L...ng-is-Nonsense

MrTrollkien 04-27-2014 05:17 PM

Watch the Global Warmingists start stomping their little feet and start pointing at old discredited articles from 2 years before Delingpole started writing about climategate, insisting it is true, and this news story is nonsense because it's in a "right-wing" news source. *rollseyes*

fpcgary 04-27-2014 05:19 PM

Is it possible he was fired for not being a very smart scientist? I don't know or care about global warming, just wondering why he would give up a sweet scientific gig like NASA

wehateporn 04-27-2014 05:34 PM

Top climate expert's sensational claim of government meddling in crucial UN report

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...UN-report.html

2MuchMark 04-27-2014 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20065191)
Top climate expert's sensational claim of government meddling in crucial UN report

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...UN-report.html


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wehateporn 04-27-2014 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20065196)

I'd recommend not to take opinions from those you vote for, but rather to use logic, science and common sense to get to the bottom of this topic :2 cents:

2MuchMark 04-27-2014 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20065198)
I'd recommend not to take opinions from those you vote for, but rather to use logic, science and common sense to get to the bottom of this topic :2 cents:

....says the climate change denier.

bronco67 04-27-2014 07:40 PM

If the great Les Woodcock thinks it's a scam, then it's a scam. Not a good name to have if you ever want to have sex with a girl.

Even in death, Breitbart can dig up any bullshit he can finds and present it as actual news. Imagine leaving a legacy of douchery that carries on in your name after you croak. How old and wrinkly is this former NASA guy?

blackmonsters 04-27-2014 07:45 PM

I don't care what causes global warming; I want less pollution no matter what.

MPGdevil 04-27-2014 09:32 PM

Climate change or not.. Oil resources etc. aren't unlimited and a cleaner environment is the future.

BV 04-27-2014 10:51 PM

About 30% 0f the CO2 in the atmosphere comes from forest fires, a natural and necessary occurance needed to sustain life.

So yes, global warming is BS.

Alex1776 04-27-2014 11:29 PM

Woodcock is an idiot

seeandsee 04-28-2014 12:16 AM

I bet he and all other science people dont have a fucking clue what is going on

H-Tom 04-28-2014 01:38 AM

Climate changes constanly. 500 years ago in my country it was so hot that we could plant a grapevine. 10.000 years ago it was so cold that everything was covered in snow for the whole year. Everyone who says that we coused global warming is f*cking mental.

Learn history retards!

http://www.optocleaner.com/images/Earth-History-810.jpg

Actually we are liniving in a one of coldest periods of time in a history of earth.

lowriderz 04-28-2014 03:38 AM

Don't ever trust the media...

adultchatpay 04-28-2014 05:34 AM

There is a global warming.. my skin can feel it.

mopek1 04-28-2014 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20065170)

Oh look!

Somebody who was fired and is probably pissed off and feels like a nobody now is saying something controversial to get some attention and the media (doesn't matter left or right) is publishing it since controversy sells.

Move along ...

wehateporn 04-28-2014 06:35 AM

Elite Global Banker Rothschild says that if we pay $Trillions in Carbon Taxes to his World Bank he will save the world for us, he also says we are not allowed to debate his theory of 'Climate Change' anymore as he needs his taxes fast to get saving the planet.


sperbonzo 04-28-2014 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20065243)
If the great Les Woodcock thinks it's a scam, then it's a scam. Not a good name to have if you ever want to have sex with a girl.

Even in death, Breitbart can dig up any bullshit he can finds and present it as actual news. Imagine leaving a legacy of douchery that carries on in your name after you croak. How old and wrinkly is this former NASA guy?

Absolutely right! Of course all of the Man made global warming theories are now settled science! Let's not let the fact that all the models have been proven incorrect deter us from KNOWING that man is causing climate change!!

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Rochard 04-28-2014 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H-Tom (Post 20065405)
Climate changes constanly. 500 years ago in my country it was so hot that we could plant a grapevine. 10.000 years ago it was so cold that everything was covered in snow for the whole year. Everyone who says that we coused global warming is f*cking mental.

Learn history retards!

http://www.optocleaner.com/images/Earth-History-810.jpg

Actually we are liniving in a one of coldest periods of time in a history of earth.

Exactly. We are coming out of an ice age. It's about to get a lot hotter.

PR_Glen 04-28-2014 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by MPGdevil (Post 20065291)
Climate change or not.. Oil resources etc. aren't unlimited and a cleaner environment is the future.

That is a myth.. we have more than enough to sustain a planet 5 times the size for a million years but you can't make money telling people that so shh

mopek1 04-28-2014 07:32 AM

LOL ...

Nobody here has the specific educational background to seriously evaluate this.

MaDalton 04-28-2014 07:38 AM

i always wonder if all those who deny that climate is changing are opposed to just having clean air and not dumping toxic waste in the environment

even if climate change is not man-made - whats wrong with more clean air and less burning fossil fuel?

SekobA 04-28-2014 07:52 AM

its just only one opinion.I hope hi is not old enough to say bullshit

EonBlue 04-28-2014 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20065851)
i always wonder if all those who deny that climate is changing are opposed to just having clean air and not dumping toxic waste in the environment

even if climate change is not man-made - whats wrong with more clean air and less burning fossil fuel?

Who could possibly be against clean air? I am 100% for clean air and 100% against dumping toxic waste in the environment.

That being said, CO2 is the wrong substance to target if you are looking for clean air and a reduction in toxic waste. CO2 is not pollution and it is not toxic even at levels thousands of times higher than it is now.

Also, in most of the developed world, the air is cleaner now than it was 100 or even 40 years ago. Waterways are generally cleaner, forest cover is greater and there is just less overall pollution. All of that despite increased populations and increased use of oil and gas.

All of the doom and gloom over CO2 emissions and a slight warming are unnecessary and counterproductive.

DWB 04-28-2014 07:55 AM

GFY webmasters, trolls and pornographers will get to the bottom of global warming, just like they do everything else.

sperbonzo 04-28-2014 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20065851)
i always wonder if all those who deny that climate is changing are opposed to just having clean air and not dumping toxic waste in the environment

even if climate change is not man-made - whats wrong with more clean air and less burning fossil fuel?

If it was about that, I would be fine with it. Unfortunately, what it's about is furthering global governance and massive wealth redistribution.



.:2 cents:



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EonBlue 04-28-2014 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 20065880)
If it was about that, I would be fine with it. Unfortunately, what it's about is furthering global governance and massive wealth redistribution.



.:2 cents:



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This. :2 cents::2 cents:

mopek1 04-28-2014 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 20065875)
That being said, CO2 is the wrong substance to target if you are looking for clean air and a reduction in toxic waste. CO2 is not pollution and it is not toxic even at levels thousands of times higher than it is now.

Ever see Beijing or any Chinese city?

Why not CO2? I know there are other pollutants which also need to be addressed but CO2 is a big one.

mopek1 04-28-2014 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 20065880)
If it was about that, I would be fine with it. Unfortunately, what it's about is furthering global governance and massive wealth redistribution.



.:2 cents:



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I believe that's only if you use carbon taxing etc...

If we all personally move towards greener and more efficient sources of energy we wouldn't have to worry about all that tax crap.

Phoenix 04-28-2014 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 20065781)
That is a myth.. we have more than enough to sustain a planet 5 times the size for a million years but you can't make money telling people that so shh

You keep saying this. Can you provide some information? I am not trolling you.

EonBlue 04-28-2014 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mopek1 (Post 20065903)
Ever see Beijing or any Chinese city?

Why not CO2? I know there are other pollutants which also need to be addressed but CO2 is a big one.

Because CO2 is not a pollutant and does not affect air quality at current concentrations or even at concentrations many times higher than now.

The air quality problems in Chinese cities are caused by many things but CO2 isn't one of them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pollution_in_China

People who really care about air quality should stop wasting money on reducing CO2 output and put that money towards curbing real pollutants.

SuckOnThis 04-28-2014 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 20065875)
Who could possibly be against clean air? I am 100% for clean air and 100% against dumping toxic waste in the environment.

That being said, CO2 is the wrong substance to target if you are looking for clean air and a reduction in toxic waste. CO2 is not pollution and it is not toxic even at levels thousands of times higher than it is now.

What?? A CO2 level at a thousand times more than it is now would put us at 400,000 PPM. 100,000 PPM will suffocate a person. Greenhouses routinely raise levels of CO2 to just 10,000 PPM to kill off unwanted bugs.

mopek1 04-28-2014 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 20065942)
Because CO2 is not a pollutant and does not affect air quality at current concentrations or even at concentrations many times higher than now.

The air quality problems in Chinese cities are caused by many things but CO2 isn't one of them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pollution_in_China

People who really care about air quality should stop wasting money on reducing CO2 output and put that money towards curbing real pollutants.

So if I look at that page you linked to I see:

"Zhong Nanshan, the president of the China Medical Association, in 2012 warned that air pollution could become the biggest health threat. Lung cancer and cardiovascular disease were increasing because of factory and vehicle air pollution and tobacco smoking. Lung cancer was two to three times more common in cities than in the countryside despite similar rates of tobacco smoking"

Vehicle air pollution is a big threat. Since CO2 comes from vehicles (plus some particulates) ...

EonBlue 04-28-2014 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 20065944)
What?? A CO2 level at a thousand times more than it is now would put us at 400,000 PPM. 100,000 PPM will suffocate a person. Greenhouses routinely raise levels of CO2 to just 10,000 PPM to kill off unwanted bugs.

Sorry, I mistyped that. I was thinking two thoughts at once - "thousands of PPM" and "many times higher than now". They got crossed and came out as one.

Even at 10,000 PPM CO2 is still a trace gas and not toxic to humans.

Regardless, we are nowhere near getting that high and never will be.

EonBlue 04-28-2014 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mopek1 (Post 20065952)
So if I look at that page you linked to I see:

"Zhong Nanshan, the president of the China Medical Association, in 2012 warned that air pollution could become the biggest health threat. Lung cancer and cardiovascular disease were increasing because of factory and vehicle air pollution and tobacco smoking. Lung cancer was two to three times more common in cities than in the countryside despite similar rates of tobacco smoking"

Vehicle air pollution is a big threat. Since CO2 comes from vehicles (plus some particulates) ...

Ok, then following that logic we must also ban N2, and H2O since they, along with CO2, form the bulk of vehicle exhaust.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exhaust_gas

Quote:

The largest part of most combustion gas is nitrogen (N2), water vapor (H2O) (except with pure-carbon fuels), and carbon dioxide (CO2) (except for fuels without carbon); these are not toxic or noxious (although carbon dioxide is generally recognized as a greenhouse gas that contributes to global warming). A relatively small part of combustion gas is undesirable noxious or toxic substances, such as carbon monoxide (CO) from incomplete combustion, hydrocarbons (properly indicated as CxHy, but typically shown simply as "HC" on emissions-test slips) from unburnt fuel, nitrogen oxides (NOx) from excessive combustion temperatures, ozone (O3), and particulate matter (mostly soot).
Good luck with that.

mopek1 04-28-2014 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 20065963)
Ok, then following that logic we must also ban N2, and H2O since they, along with CO2, form the bulk of vehicle exhaust.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exhaust_gas



Good luck with that.

Ha. Didn't know that. I always thought CO2 (in high enough concentrations) was a part of what was toxic to humans.

So then since exhaust in general is toxic (other gases and particulates) we need to still move away from what we have now.

As for Global warming I do believe it is caused by too much CO2 that man has emitted but don't think that any of that carbon tax nonsense is the answer. No wealth needs to shift.

BaldBastard 04-28-2014 09:15 AM

When no one can find a plane, in what should be one of the cleanest oceans in the world, because it's garbage soup already.

You know we have issues.

wehateporn 04-28-2014 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 20065781)
That is a myth.. we have more than enough to sustain a planet 5 times the size for a million years but you can't make money telling people that so shh


wehateporn 04-28-2014 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 20065914)
You keep saying this. Can you provide some information? I am not trolling you.



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