Killer cops ????...
 

As America reacts to the most recent police shooting and the strong opinion on both sides grows I have a question.

There are 900,000 law enforcement officers across the country. Let's say there are 2 questionable shootings per month by accident or "killer cops" so 24 shootings, 900,000 cops that's 0.000026 percent.

Sure it's tragic when some gets shot that doesn't deserve it but what's a reasonable amount? Anyone that says zero is living in a fantasy world.


edit; Or, is this only a problem when it's a white shooter and black "victim" ?


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Logic has no place here

.25% are blacks killed by cops... when you consider 80% of violent crime is committed by blacks that's a very low number indeed... :2 cents:

Thanks, sometimes I forget.


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2 per month that make national news. How many that don't?

So the figure might be a little higher. Still didn't answer the question.

No matter what the stats tell us, it's still sad.

But yes, we have a lot of cops and not nearly as many shootings or deaths as one would imagine.

I love watching the COPs TV show. Cops are freaking amazing. They calmly drive to a call and they have no idea what is going down. Maybe it's a sick child or a woman choking or a kitten stuck in a tree. Or it might be called in to break up a fist fight or take down an armed felon alone.

To bad it's not 900,000 pigs shot per year in this country. Hopefully that day will come.

Oh and non of them "accidental".

Being that the reaction is itself irrational and only loosely related to the event and "victim" and is a wholly emotional response, reason and logic aren't going to win it :)

It's all just basic tribalism. Us against them. Black against white. Us against the police... Etc. The events are often nothing more than an excuse to act out and for grievance pimps to cash in.

I heard Jesse Jackson taking about this event being part of a clear pattern and when challenged he could only list a few similar situations spanning a decade. Of course, that didn't slow him down in his rhetoric, blame and shameless fund raising while standing on a fresh corpse..

pig roast :food-smil02 if given the chance take it :2 cents:

Idiots looting stores and destroying their neighborhood because they care so much about what's right.

And with this emotion and attitude the question of why the police showed up in riot/combat gear is answered.

no they show up in riot gear because its a riot. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh any city that has a riot uses the same shit. college kids flipping over cars and fires riot gear. pink you really are playing stupid dogg.

Interesting.

Denmark has 13,500 cops. Since 2001 they have managed to kill 15 people. That is around 1.2 a year. That makes it: 0.0088888888888889 percent in kill ratio per cop...

So I guess cops kill more people in Denmark than in the US :1orglaugh

a killing is a killing its not funny. :2 cents: watch the video of the homeless guy getting sprayed with bullets.

Of course it isn't. I also happen to personally know one of the 15. He was an army buddy I was stationed with in Bosnia, apparently he lost it on march 10th, 2009 and attacked the cops with a sword and they shot him.

Anyway.

The reason the emoticon is laughing is because Denmark is (at least by Europeans) considered a very safe country to live in, so it's kinda amusing that it turns out cops kill more people here than in the US. Maybe that's why it's safer :pimp

those are the ones reported. some are hidden

:2 cents:

People need to get it into their heads that once they have been stopped they need to deal with it responsibly. Acting like a dumbass will only get you dead. You need to decide:

1. Do I want to get out of this and go home tonight.
2. Do I want to go to jail.
3. Do I want to make my loved ones cry by going full on retarded.

No medals handed out for dumbasses. Only coffins.

If they are declared good kills then that ratio is certainly acceptable. Cops do not need to put their lives on the line because of some criminal dumbass makes a bonehead move.

if a cop shoots at me he will get an answer. im always ready

they are shooting dogs, one every 98 mins.
http://www.wnd.com/2014/07/police-ta...ry-98-minutes/
Hiding behind I felt threatened, which is funny because the ups,fedex and postman seem to survive without shooting dogs at the drop of a hat.

There is no "reasonable" amount. Every case needs reaction, maybe not from the public, but at least the police has to enforce law within it's own troops and guilty folk sentenced normally.

Also, you counted it wrong. You shouldn't compare questionable shootings to the number of polices, instead you should compare it to the overal number of shootings. Even assuming that every police shoots one human per year, every year, which I doubt. So the number to compare is overall number of shootings.

Or maybe US just has more polices. But like I said, the number to compare against is not the number of polices, since that doesn't tell much about the legality of the shootings.

There are around 313 million people living in the US. Every year, according to ABC news, about 360 people are killed by the police. The odds of being killed by a cop in the US are about 1 in 870,000.

as a comparison. around 550 people die shopping every Black Friday. Yes, you have a better chance of being killed going to Walmart on black Friday to get that good deal than you do of being killed by a cop.

How dying to natural causes while shopping is comparable to being shot by a cop.. sorry killed by a cop, wounded amount is unclear?

Of course the odds of being killed in EITHER of those events goes WAY UP if you happen to be BLACK.

A little bit? Do you live under a rock? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...s,_August_2014

According to this list 19 people have been killed by cops SO FAR THIS MONTH. That's over one a day.

This month's dead include 2 unarmed people with mental problems, and 2 people with bb guns, one of whom was trying to buy a bb-gun at walmart.

Stay under the rock, it's safer there.

Did it hurt when you pulled that data out of your ass? there have only been 7 total black Friday deaths since 2006. and ABC news is way of. On August 3rd of this year alone, 7 people were killed by police.

The point I was trying to make is that with 900,000 cops why is it a surprise something like this happens.

oh man if you get drunk riding that bike. :helpme you may join the shooting victims

I might be off on the black friday stuff. I am just going off what I read. The police stuff is pretty accurate. According to the FBI and many sources on average between 350-400 people per year are killed by the police. Not all of the deaths are via shooting, others come from other injuries.

I won't argue that. According to what I read about 42% of those killed were white while 32% of those killed were black. Since black people only make up about 10% of the population the odds are much higher if you are black.

I don't think it is a surprise, but that doesn't make it any better.

My point is that the odds of being killed by a cop are very high. While there are some innocent people who are just in the wrong place at the wrong time, most of these people die because they do something stupid.

L-pink, the USA has never been a place where math meant anything.

September 11 tragedy, < 3000 deaths. USA spends, how many trillion? And how many lives of its own to go to war? And still doesn't remember, nobody can win wars like this. And today its like you guys were never there.

Get the big corporations out of politics, or simply make it criminal to cover up something like a recall, would've saved more lives and had a lasting effect. And you guys wouldn't be paupers.

You could've bought everyone that didn't have one a car with airbags for christs sake and saved more lives.

Well, that would be the NEWS!! if being killed by a cop would be very likely. Then you guys would have to establish anti-police-police and hope that it doesn't backfire as well.

I don't know about your sense of justice, but my sense of justice doesn't justify people being shot at just because they did something stupid.

You quoted .000026 percent and that's acceptable.

I've never met a cop I didn't like or that wasn't fair. No joke. I've heard of others having bad experiences and I know bad shit has happened, just my personal experience in life so far.

Perhaps if your wife or kid, assuming you have either were shot dead by cops. Would that be an acceptable percentage?

I won't for a second try to argue that some police shootings are wrong, illegal and the people doing them should be punished. I also won't argue that in some cases the police department covers things up or in some way finds a way to justify the shooting without a proper investigation.

Many cities, like the one I live in, now have citizen review boards for police shootings so there is a little more accountability to the public.

The bottom line is that the police need more training, but many departments are underfunded and the police are under-trained. Better leadership and better training might help decrease the number of people killed by the police per year.

All that said, when you look at the big picture and you see the number of crimes committed every year and the number of people arrested and you compare that to the number of people killed by the police, the number killed almost seems low to me.

Then again, I also know that with some people it doesn't matter what they do, the cops can't win and will always be the bad guy.

never thought i would agree with you :2 cents::2 cents: when it happens personal then they switch sides. seen it

Some common sense would also help, even without training there should be a brain cell or two in the police's head.

We haven't many people being shot by a cop around here, but I don't think it's because of better training, the whole culture is differently. Here if you would try to be some macho sheriff, I guess you would be laughed out of police, if not being fired before that.