OBAMA adminstration moves to ban .223 ammunition
 

https://www.nraila.org/articles/2015...mon-ar-15-ammo

In a move clearly intended by the Obama Administration to suppress the acquisition, ownership and use of AR-15s and other .223 caliber general purpose rifles, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives unexpectedly announced today that it intends to ban commonplace M855 ball ammunition as ?armor piercing ammunition.? The decision continues Obama?s use of his executive authority to impose gun control restrictions and bypass Congress.

This is funny because previously the M855 ball ammunition had been removed from the AP list.

More info here
Military Ammunition and Why Green Tip M855 is Not Armor Piercing : ITS Tactical

So for the liberals that have said over and over again that Obama is not after our guns, yes they are, just going to take away the bullets attacking what the Supreme Court has said about fire arms which is written in the constitution.

That Obama, what a nazi.

btw how to you pronunce .223 ?

dot two hundred twenty three ?
two hundred twenty three ?
two two three ?

just 2 2 3

I usually say 2 2 3. Sometimes 2 - 23. I don't know if that is correct or not. But I use it.

Sounds like a bullshit way for the makers of 223 ammo to move a LOT of product really fast...

The same way they sold a SHITLOAD of AR-15's after the Sandy Hook shootings and all the bullshit rumors that were started then about assault gun bans...

Paranoia sells products in America... we are a society based on fear and consumption...

Go to the ATF website and find where they mention this anywhere... and THEN come back and apologize to everyone for spreading paranoid right wing lies... :thumbsup

Not done yet, and it's up in the air if it will or not. Especially with public backlash. Even the military doesn't use M855 ammo anymore. It does have sporting uses, and the proposed ban will be violently fought against.

Won't be fought against much if Obama does an executive order. Banning an ammo calling it AP when it clearly isn't shows the lengths the current administration will go to for it's agenda.

He's going to rally the republicans and cost his party the presidency over shit like this

So, for what is this soon to be banned ammunition used for? What is its purpose?

Sport shooting, hunting, home defense, it's a very common round.

It's armor piercing rounds, not all .223 rounds. Our village Biker Gnome doesn't read his own articles. I can't think of too many hunters whom use AP ammo to hunt with, but hey lets not get in the way with actual common sense when the Biker Gnome is running amok.

It's been a week since he's had anything to be out ragged about after all..

also most shooting ranges also ban these same rounds.. oh why do the shooting ranges hate our Freedom!!!

Honestly, who cares? It's just a bullet, and Obama is HARDLY coming for your guns. Maybe these bullets are just too dangerous for civilians to have? Who knows, who cares? I'm pretty sure this small move won't put a dent in any gun lovers collection.

These idiots fall for it over and over and over again.

It's funny how the Obama administration is supposed to be so dysfunctional and foiled by inept leadership, yet manage to take away something every other day.

That talks about armor piercing rounds. There is also talk of sporting exemptions.

Why do every day American's need armor piercing rounds?

For that militia they don't belong to?

thanx for skimming over it and not reading it and understanding it, it says that the ammo that they are trying to get rid of is not amour piercing

.223 is a very common bullet. It's just like banning V8 two door cars because they are to fast but still letting people have V10 sports cars

so just to be clear...an NRA website says its not armor piercing, so that is the truth.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

why even think vendzilla? does it drain too much energy, make you tired?

:smiling_b

It is armor piercing but was given an exception and removed from the ban list. I know nothing about ammo but I read the NRA link above.

I didn't mean the caliber, I meant that specific ammo that is to be banned. I have .222, and every ammo has some specific use/ usage scenario.

no, the ATF said it's not Armour piercing, glad to know you can't read, it makes so much sense now!!


if you look at the definition of Armour piercing, it is not

they want the caliber, not a specific maker or round, Their excuse is that it can be used in a pistol, i know someone that has a 45.70 in a pistol, that round was used for buffalo rifles

Good to know that you nothing of what the founding fathers considered a militia!!!

About .223 Penetration

You don't need to hunt with .223. ***over 40grains
The only logical thing to "hunt" that might be wearing wearing soft body armor is a man ...

Actually 223 is great for varmint hunting

here's a 223 for hunting
http://media.liveauctiongroup.net/i/...CDF05E8E3666F0

Vendzilla - i bet you are one of the 10% he mentions...

I am sure you will kill a skunk stone cold dead with a less than a 40 grain load in a .223 caliper -- that ammo will continue to be sold ...

I don't have .223, but I have .222. I have 50 grain (3,2 g) bullets for fox hunting, and these are lighter ones from two popular bullet weights. Then there are 3,6 g bullets, whatever it makes in grains.

Due to the unbelievably massive number of Americans (ZERO) that have been killed by armor-piercing .223 bullets, the BO administration is spending resources and political points to ban the projectile, thus saving thousands and thousands of Americans (from ourselves).

Thanks OBAMA!

its an issue of the source buddy. regardless what NRA claims its source is, its still NRA & NRA has no credibility on facts. not too suprising they found an ATF agent to mouthoff their agenda. i believe they think the answer to newtown is more armed teachers....nutters!!!!

so you sourcing an organization with the same cred as ISIS only reflects poorly on your intellectual heft.

:)

That pretty much sums up my view.

my guess is the law enforcement lobby wants this bullet off the street, to protect cops wearing armor. leave it the the NRA to oppose the safety of cops in the name of gun freedom.

:2 cents:

Although they haven't banned guns in Australia. Gun ban in Australia felt so unbelievable that I had to check it out. You know, much rural areas and such (hunting, etc.).

Gun politics in Australia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That video was good lol

A German posting an Australians view on American culture?

How many cops have died due to this round?

guess you think the second amendment means nothing? pure speculation with nothing to back it up, same as usual

Bad news for gun loving folk, lol.

more people die from hammers than rifles
Expanded Homicide Data Table 8 - Crime in the United States 2009

This is quite the experience. I've read about the brain dead NRA...but had hoped they were like the sasquatch, and simply urban folklore. But here we have some actual living and breathing specimens posting on this forum. Wow, this is a special day..

exactly.

he covers that as well...