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Rochard 02-22-2015 09:56 PM

Kicking dogs
 
At a small party the other night I met a local resident who kicked a dog and seemed rather fine with it.

She was out for a walk when a dog off leash ran up to her. She felt threatened and decided to kick the dog in the mouth. Is that proper? Illegal?

I walk / run / cycle the trails in my town every day (I biked 37 miles today!) and every day I come across dogs off leash. Not once have I had to kick a dog.

TTI-Rich 02-22-2015 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20400639)
She was out for a walk when a dog off leash ran up to her. She felt threatened and decided to kick the dog in the mouth.

You've answered your own question.

L-Pink 02-22-2015 10:19 PM

Any non retard over the age of 15 should be able to tell if a dog is running up to say hey man check out this stick I found, what's up, scratch my ears please or aggressively running up to bite you.

Rub the first one's head kick the other one.


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Spunky 02-22-2015 10:24 PM

If the dog was aggressive I would feel threatened too,gotta protect yourself

CPA-Rush 02-22-2015 10:50 PM

no, i care about dogs feelings :)

Phoenix 02-22-2015 10:57 PM

If she felt threatened it is hard to fault her.

Rochard 02-23-2015 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 20400668)
If she felt threatened it is hard to fault her.

That's what she says. However, dogs run up to people every day. They don't, they run. Oddly enough I've never felt threatened enough by a dog to feel the need to kick them before they do anything.

slapass 02-23-2015 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20400919)
That's what she says. However, dogs run up to people every day. They don't, they run. Oddly enough I've never felt threatened enough by a dog to feel the need to kick them before they do anything.

Dogs bite people everyday. I get that you are not ok with it but it happens so she is not a wacko if that is what you really are asking.

signupdamnit 02-23-2015 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20400919)
That's what she says. However, dogs run up to people every day. They don't, they run. Oddly enough I've never felt threatened enough by a dog to feel the need to kick them before they do anything.

It depends. What kind of dog was it? Was the owner of the dog nearby?

If I'm out walking and someone with a pitbull even walks by me I keep my hand on a weapon ready to go in case I need it. It's very easy for the dog to get loose and if a pitbull is coming at me I'm probably not going to take any chances. I'm not a jerk but those things can kill you or seriously maim you in seconds.

Now if it was some poodle wagging his tail in broad daylight then maybe she was out of line.

aka123 02-23-2015 08:05 AM

If you feel threatened you have the right to nuke everybody. That amendment of something says so. You are not supposed to have any skills to make wise decisions. You have a right to be and act like a retard.

Although in my country it doesn't matter what you did feel; it matters what you could be expected to feel. In addition to that you are expected to make wise decisions. I support that.

J. Falcon 02-23-2015 08:30 AM

If a dog is aggressive and wants to hurt you, is it even a good idea to try and kick it? It better be a strong, well aimed kick.

bronco67 02-23-2015 09:01 AM

I was walking my Lab last summer, and a dog (German Shepherd) went through his electric fence. He came running at me and I just took an aggressive stance between him and my own dog. Whatever way he tried to go, I side stepped in front of him.

I didn't even think about escalating to a kicking in the face situation, and his owner finally ran out to get him before anything bad happened.

99% of dogs are pussies, and will back down if you show them who's the boss. I agree with Falcon....kicking would make what's probably a harmless incident into a brawl or a bite. One thing I took away from watching Cesar Milan is that dogs will match your energy. If you freak out, then the dog probably will too.

just a punk 02-23-2015 09:11 AM

I love dogs (actually I love any living creature because I'm an atheist). I know they are very smart and can be much better than humans in many cases - they do no betray etc. But as any other high intellectual creatures, they can be very dangerous. So I won't feel bad to kick an angry dog or human that threaten me or others. I won't hesitate to do something like this:


SuckOnThis 02-23-2015 09:19 AM

Idiots shouldn't let their dogs run around without a leash anyway.

k0nr4d 02-23-2015 09:30 AM

Seems perfectly fine. I would have no problem kicking a dog in the head if I felt me or my family were threatened. Dogs are pack animals and you gotta show them who is boss. That being said, I'm a pretty big guy so if you're a 5 ft tall 40kg woman then best not to...

bronco67 02-23-2015 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20401008)
I love dogs (actually I love any living creature because I'm an atheist). I know they are very smart and can be much better than humans in many cases - they do no betray etc. But as any other high intellectual creatures, they can be very dangerous. So I won't feel bad to kick an angry dog or human that threaten me or others. I won't hesitate to do something like this:


We don't have wild packs of dogs running around the US like some third world country. Even a shithole like Alabama doesn't have this problem. But in this case, a firearm would be appropriate.

Is this what they call a boring day in Russia?

AllAboutCams 02-23-2015 09:56 AM

Depends ive had a couple of dogs run up to me barking and one jumped up at my back and had me against a wall but did not bite me. Another time i had a small dog come up to me barking like mad and looked aggressive it had come near i would have kicked it. I had a pit/cross/mutt come in my garden when i was messing with my car and was fine let me pet it and off it went no problem.

Mickey_ 02-23-2015 10:26 AM

If you feel threatened you do what you have to do to protect yourself while trying to inflict the least amount of damage on your attacker (in an ideal case anyhow). To me it seems like that is what she did if the dog acted in a threatening way. She did not shoot the dog, she kicked it.

By the way, like L-Pink pointed out, the "average person" should be able to make the call whether the dog is attacking or not. If it's hard to tell or there is no time to size up the situation, then I'd fault the owner of the dog, since the dog wasn't on a leash. :2 cents:

(ps. I'm not talking about who's legally at fault, just the common sense view of a situation like this)

JD 02-23-2015 10:41 AM

Depends on the dog and the woman's personal history with them. I have a relative that's terrified of dachshunds. He's a large man.

Bladewire 02-23-2015 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20400639)
At a small party the other night I met a local resident who kicked a dog and seemed rather fine with it.

She was out for a walk when a dog off leash ran up to her. She felt threatened and decided to kick the dog in the mouth. Is that proper? Illegal?

That's a strange thing to be telling people at a party. Was she saying it like she was a badass or something?

just a punk 02-23-2015 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20401029)
We don't have wild packs of dogs running around the US like some third world country. Even a shithole like Alabama doesn't have this problem. But in this case, a firearm would be appropriate.

Animals :2 cents:

Rochard 02-23-2015 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Squirtit (Post 20401111)
That's a strange thing to be telling people at a party. Was she saying it like she was a badass or something?

I've met this women before and it seems to come up often in conversation. I've only met her a handful of times and it seems three of them she's mentioned kicking dogs. She does seem to be bragging about it.

Yet she claims to be an animal lover.

Rochard 02-23-2015 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Mickey_ (Post 20401080)
If you feel threatened you do what you have to do to protect yourself while trying to inflict the least amount of damage on your attacker (in an ideal case anyhow). To me it seems like that is what she did if the dog acted in a threatening way. She did not shoot the dog, she kicked it.

By the way, like L-Pink pointed out, the "average person" should be able to make the call whether the dog is attacking or not. If it's hard to tell or there is no time to size up the situation, then I'd fault the owner of the dog, since the dog wasn't on a leash. :2 cents:

(ps. I'm not talking about who's legally at fault, just the common sense view of a situation like this)

I walk / run / and bike the local trail here in my town on a daily basis. Every day I come across dogs off leash. Sometimes I have my dog with me - on a leash of course - and some times dogs like to mix it up. Never in my entire life have I felt "threatened" by a dog. In the event two of them get into a fight on the trail or a dog park, you step in and break it up. Still no need to kick a dog.

It just seems to me like the worse possible thing you can do. You kick a dog it will most likely try to bite you.

baddog 02-23-2015 11:08 AM

I like dogs but if a strange dog came running up at me or my dogs a kick to the face is what happens.

bronco67 02-23-2015 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20401118)
I've met this women before and it seems to come up often in conversation. I've only met her a handful of times and it seems three of them she's mentioned kicking dogs. She does seem to be bragging about it.

Yet she claims to be an animal lover.


hottoddy 02-23-2015 11:26 AM

I own a dog but wouldn't hesitate to defend myself quickly. With certain breeds, you don't get much time to figure out intentions. Some people walk their dog off leash (against code), and think it's just fine when they charge other people (often children) ... "Oh sorry, he just wants to play." I walk mine off leash too, where appropriate, but she's a lab and sticks to me and listens. One time jogging, I had a little ankle biter pester me and I punted it halfway across the street. The lady "walking" it 50 feet away didn't say shit.

blackmonsters 02-23-2015 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20400639)
At a small party the other night I met a local resident who kicked a dog and seemed rather fine with it.

She was out for a walk when a dog off leash ran up to her. She felt threatened and decided to kick the dog in the mouth. Is that proper? Illegal?

I walk / run / cycle the trails in my town every day (I biked 37 miles today!) and every day I come across dogs off leash. Not once have I had to kick a dog.

Chill out it was a black dog.

:2 cents:

Rochard 02-23-2015 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 20401130)
I like dogs but if a strange dog came running up at me or my dogs a kick to the face is what happens.

Really?

If a strange dog comes running up to me I.... I bend over to make myself feel less threatening and hold out my hand so the dog can sniff it. Never had the need to kick a dog.

Choopa Phil 02-23-2015 12:38 PM

Ive been bitten by an unleashed dog who happened to be my old neighbors. Was friendly and would let me pet her for over 5 years ..all it takes is one time. Since then I am not so eager to put my hand out and pet strange animals. I can understand her position to an extent

brassmonkey 02-23-2015 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20400646)
Any non retard over the age of 15 should be able to tell if a dog is running up to say hey man check out this stick I found, what's up, scratch my ears please or aggressively running up to bite you.

Rub the first one's head kick the other one.


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its illegal in cali to let a dogg roam free. she is within her rights to do whatever is needed to get the dog away.

sonofsam 02-23-2015 12:52 PM

Such a stupid thread.

Owners fault for not leashing the dog. I also like dogs more than people.

Sly 02-23-2015 12:54 PM

I can see your mayoral campaign already.

Proud Marine. Loves Mustangs. Doesn't kick dogs. Vote Rochard.

Varius 02-23-2015 12:58 PM

Next time you see her at another party, as she approaches you, kick her in the face.

Then explain to the shocked guests that you felt threatened as she was likely approaching you to tell her dog story for the 4th + time.

OneHungLo 02-23-2015 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20401008)
I love dogs (actually I love any living creature because I'm an atheist). I know they are very smart and can be much better than humans in many cases - they do no betray etc. But as any other high intellectual creatures, they can be very dangerous. So I won't feel bad to kick an angry dog or human that threaten me or others. I won't hesitate to do something like this:


I guess there are no animal control officers in those 2nd/3rd world countries :2 cents:

And what does being an atheist have to do with loving or not loving animals?

brassmonkey 02-23-2015 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Varius (Post 20401242)
Next time you see her at another party, as she approaches you, kick her in the face.

Then explain to the shocked guests that you felt threatened as she was likely approaching you to tell her dog story for the 4th + time.

stupid! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

aka123 02-23-2015 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 20401228)
its illegal in cali to let a dogg roam free. she is within her rights to do whatever is needed to get the dog away.

These two things aren't synonyms. And neither the other way around. You two are different legal entities (you and the dog owner or state if there is no owner).

In simple: if someone does something illegal; it doesn't give you automatic right to do something illegal. At least not in non-fucked up legal systems.

SBJ 02-23-2015 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 20401237)
I can see your mayoral campaign already.

Proud Marine. Loves Mustangs. Doesn't kick dogs. Vote Rochard.


:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh Wow got my vote! Although the Mustang thing is a negative for me as I'm a Chevy guy.. But I also don't kick dogs.

sonofsam 02-23-2015 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 20401130)
I like dogs but if a strange dog came running up at me or my dogs a kick to the face is what happens.

Youre so hardcore baddog

brassmonkey 02-23-2015 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20401293)
These two things aren't synonyms. And neither the other way around. You two are different legal entities (you and the dog owner or state if there is no owner).

In simple: if someone does something illegal; it doesn't give you automatic right to do something illegal. At least not in non-fucked up legal systems.

believe it or not it's legal to use lethal force in most states. Philly Police Encourage Residents to Shoot Unleashed Dogs | Cop Block

use a leash or the dog is going to visit old yeller :BangBang:

baddog 02-23-2015 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20401214)
Really?

If a strange dog comes running up to me I.... I bend over to make myself feel less threatening and hold out my hand so the dog can sniff it. Never had the need to kick a dog.

Contrary to your allegations, most dogs do not come up running; primarily aggressive dogs do. Buddy has already been attacked once; I am not going to allow it to happen again.


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