amakings not being fair
 

I have been with amakings.com for months, and not had a single sale, so I thought I would test if the tracking is working, and signed up as a customer myself via a 1 day trial $3, just to see if the tracking will show a sign up. and it did.

but straight after that they suspended by account, after ive told them you can void this transaction as a test. how is testing to see if it working and admitting it is breaching their terms? wont even allow me to re-enable my account. after a $3 sign up only with no other sales :(

Lol.....I think everyone has had that same idea. But I'm sure you used the same IP address checking stats and then signing up.

yes but in 2 months i made 0 sales, and then a test order of $3, as well as admitting it was me. they still won't re-enable my account, that is just totally not fair.

This. Contact them and let them know you did. You will most likely get a response stating that your should have let them know you were doing it, but that would defeat the purpose. I remember way back in the day having the same thing happen with SunnyDollars.

Next time, give your buddy a few bucks and have him do it. :2 cents:

I did tell them it was me and this is their response:

Hi,

This is strictly against our terms, unfortunately we can not re-enable the account.

Thanks.

Maarten

If you dont had a sale in 2 month, why do you want to stick with them?

Find a better sponsor that will respect you and be thankful of your mutual partnership.

It may be in their terms to deter people from doing it... But, in the end they're the ones opting to enforce it or not.

I would never ban for such a thing. It demonstrates your willingness to give them another try.

I would have been happy you did it if you did it on mine. I would also help you better market this traffic, be it by adjusting my own site or suggesting changes to your promo.


How much traffic did you send in 2 months?

Find Maarten on here. I had a small issue with amakings and another program they have. He helped me out within a couple of hours.

For me amakings converts very good (1:3xx), however they dont pay via paxum/paypal/payoneer, only bank account :(

I dont push them as much as before, still have thousands of links up though that send traffic. Converts 1:4000 ballpark.

You broke their terms and conditions and then complain about being booted ? :helpme :error

Wait, so be clear on this: you signed up then notified them OR you signed up and they canceled your account and THEN you told them what you did?

Big difference.

The times are certainly changing. Yes, that is a fucked up move by amakings if you notified them prior to them killing your account.

If you truly notified them first, then thank them for showing their true colors and find a new sponsor.

This. :2 cents:

ok i did tell them AFTER they suspended my account. but really why would i fraud them for $3 with no history of other suspicious transactions.

so with that said, any similar sponsors anyone can recommend please?

So in your several month relationship with them, you've only cost them money and you are confused as to why they aren't interested in incurring additional expenses by dealing with you?

This is why it all makes sense. Open up some contact and make a dialogue with them. Link them to this thread. All will be forgotten. Trust me.
:winkwink:

Paper Street Cash

Was it PPS or revshare?

How much traffic were you sending ?

It's hard for me to say without knowing that whether no signups in two months is bad or not. That said AMAKings pays and conversions could be much worse.

I've read a lot of your posts on this forum and it seems to me you're trying to learn the ropes, which is fine, but you need to crawl before you can walk.

To this end, never do anything so blatantly idiotic as to click your own ads or sign up under your own links. That's called fraud :2 cents:

I get about 10 - 20 visits to amakings per day, a total of about 400 visits to my site per day. as you've read my past posts, you will know im still new and only converts very well with crakrevenue so far :)

So thread title doesn't make sense anymore. You got busted and they canned you.

Lesson learned i'd say.

Were you on 60% revshare or the $40 per sign up?

Busted for what gain exactly?

Not really. Slow down on the call out. I did it back in the day to make sure their shit was working (different sponsor). Got my suspended notice and called them. They told me to let them know next time I did it. This was PPS. I wasn't trying to scam, I just felt with the amount of traffic I was throwing at them, something had to be broken on their end.

Funny thing is, they (obviously) removed the sale, and miraculously my ratios went from shit to stellar withing a 12 hour time frame. Coincidence?

I'd say today, test sales are more important than ever. :2 cents:

Maybe I have no idea what I am talking about.

*Shrugs*

revshare, why?

Because that $3 purchase would have been worth $30.

20 visits * 30 days * 2 months = 1200

0:1200

A better test would have been to send more targeted traffic over that period.

imho he should have contacted them right after the test signup. In that case it would have been all fine by me as I understand there is sometimes the need for test. However doing a test, don't notify them, then get supsended for breaking their tos seems correct by me.

Hit them up and explain, if they re-open the account consider yourself lucky. If not then you can't really blame them either.

Maybe I have no idea what I am talking about either ;)

This...

IF "1" test is done that could have "scammed" then for $3, you send them traffic and they drop you....fuck them.

Run. Don't walk away from them.

did you contact them right after your "test sign-up" or you waited if they find out?

So his effort as an affiliate and his work wasn't worth more than 1.80$?

They're turning down 7200 visitors annually over 1.80$ and believe they won't make more together?

Getting bad press for 1.80$?

The more he brings the more you'll both make, no?

I value my affiliates a lot more than that and would never do such a thing.

That really doesn't matter, if they don't allow it they don't allow it.

Besides 7200 visitors a year is really not much to start with (specially not for Ama) but that's another discussion.

I can only assume most programs check their affiliate login ID's against credit card submits daily to see who's cheating. - I certainly do. And I find cheaters pretty frequently. They don't often get around my fraud defense but when they do it pisses me off.

And "oh I was just testing the tracker" is a pretty common excuse. It doesn't play well when it happens 10-15 times with different card #'s, and even if it is a legit test I still don't appreciate what is essentially a bogus signup regardless of the reasoning.

First of all the ONLY reason you should ever sign up to a website is because you want to be a member. I don't like it when customers come around with bullshit reasons why they joined, (usually expecting a refund) and I like it even less when affiliates do it.

Second, I don't appreciate people "testing my tracker." It's been tested exhaustively by far more qualified people than a random affiliate. You can just as easily test uniques . If it tracks the unique hit then 99 times out of 100 it will track your sale. If you are that suspicious that you have to deliver a bogus join to make sure you get credit then push somebody else. Or at least make a modest effort to cover your damn tracks.

Having an aged account with inactivity is classic scammer behaviour. For some reason people think only new accounts get reviewed for fraudulent activity. These days customers themselves are at least as shady as dirty affiliates and if it's worth the time to review sales at all it's worth it to review all of them.

I would be curious to know if the name and billing address on the card you tested with match your affiliate info on your account. If they do then shame on your for not covering your tracks better and using a different browser cookie, IP address and billing address than one that matched the affiliate database.

- And if it didn't then you essentially committed credit card fraud on your first sale (and not very competently I might add) so you are lucky all you got was banned.

How is this bad press? He caught caught, depending on how you look at it, scamming them. If he contacted them soon after the signup this wouldn't have been an issue.

He's been pretty evasive and may I say deceptive here in describing the incident, so I would be interested in hearing if it was a PPS or revshave sale from the actual sponsor. I don't know about you, but when I first started out I went right for the 30-40 PPS over reveshare. :2 cents:

That is not allowed and you know it, not only with a amakings but everywhere.
There are many ways to test it, but you choose one that is not allowed and I think there would not be any exception for everyone.
I'm sorry about your account, only thing that I can recommend to make sales without anykind of tests is the link in my signature.
If you have any question don't histate to contact me.
Have a nice weekend Buddy

Best suggestion for the future would be to contact your affiliate rep before hand.

SpookyCash would likely give an affiliate making sales a comp membership.

If an affiliate were genuinely sending traffic, but without sales, they would be unlikely to get comped, but why should any revshare program care if a genuine affiliate buys a membership?

It is not like any program is going to send a check for $1.80, so, at that level, the sponsor is out zero.

Welcome to 2015 man. 6-7 years ago, I'd get a sale in every 250 uniques with them.

Just signup for another account, you didn't lose anything -- so what does it really matter, if you want to keep advertising for them?