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NatalieK 07-22-2015 08:11 PM

Selling my car & a new site
 
Well, after much thought & negotiations. My partner & I are going to sell our car to purchase a new website name, a new server address & host, a new designer & new billing company.

A whole new look on a lot of content!

Obviously we have a remarkable amount of high quality content, great niches & a need to be in the business, especially selling our pride & joy, skyline GTR to make this work. However, listening to many, especially Sly, many have mentioned the design & structure.

Now, offering maybe a job or career? Maybe we're interested in hiring a project manager..... is some one interested?

I think we have our new name for my website, & we're probably staying with adulthosting.com as they're a remarkable company. However, is taking epoch up for billing with ccbill as second tier a good idea or is ccbill enough on it's on & is zuzana a worthy company or would you recommend anyone else?

This is a serious business opportunity & I'd appreciate reality answers, especially as I'm pissed at my man selling our GTR just to pay for all the new redesign & further our business, thanks :thumbsup

candyflip 07-22-2015 08:20 PM

Nobody cares Gary.

MiamiBoyz 07-22-2015 08:30 PM

I don't see what could possibly go wrong with such a well thought out business plan.

2MuchMark 07-22-2015 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 20531080)
Well, after much thought & negotiations. My partner & I are going to sell our car to purchase a new website name, a new server address & host, a new designer & new billing company.


Hi Gary,

Forgive me for asking, but why sell your car just to get all of that? It seems like a huge risk. Why not consider the following?

- Hire a designer like Zuzana Designs to put together a few pages for you, then copy those pages for the rest of your site? (Or just download a free template from somewhere and customize it yourself?)

- Rent a server or just get some cheap hosting at any of a bazillion hosting companies out there?

- I'm sure you didn't mean you want to purchase a billing company, but what was wrong with the one you had? And why not use any of the great billing providers in the adult arena now such as Netbilling, CCBill or Epoch?

- I hope you're not planning to spend a lot of money on a domain name. If the one you want is already taken, why not try for a different name?

I think you already have lots of content, right? If that's the case, you already have lots of what you need, and everything else you need is near-free. If you like, hit me up on Skype and I would be happy to help you out.

Rob 07-22-2015 08:50 PM

Talk about taking the proverbial plunge! No checking the pool for depth, just decided to dive right in, heh? Best of luck to you.

NatalieK 07-22-2015 08:52 PM

Hang on, I thought you guys were going to give suggestions for business opportunities?

Mark, After moving to Spain with my partner, Gary & I have filmed some amazing outdoor content & cumshot creampie content, yet we're being told our website, is not worthy of selling. So, now we're left knowing if we spend a few grand on a design from zuzana it shall be sellable, especially when many have said the content was admirable & saleable, the problem was the design.

Left with little income from the poor design. We feel a massive overhaul is needed, especially when those that have personally met us, have personally spoke with us & have realized what a great open, true & honest couple we are. A full make over of the shop door is needed :thumbsup

plaster 07-22-2015 09:07 PM

Oh man... what a mess. Funny thing is everything you want, I have available for free.

What are your daily uniques and how many vids do you have on storage?

Rochard 07-22-2015 09:21 PM

Sounds to me like you are all over the place. You have a site and a company, and have shot what you consider great content, but.... why start from scratch? If your car is running rough, you don't tear it down and rebuild it from scratch?

Why not have a long talk with someone in the industry who knows a little bit about what they are doing and who might be wiling to give some advice.

Either way... Best of luck you guys.

2MuchMark 07-22-2015 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 20531093)
Hang on, I thought you guys were going to give suggestions for business opportunities?

Mark, After moving to Spain with my partner, Gary & I have filmed some amazing outdoor content & cumshot creampie content, yet we're being told our website, is not worthy of selling. So, now we're left knowing if we spend a few grand on a design from zuzana it shall be sellable, especially when many have said the content was admirable & saleable, the problem was the design.

Left with little income from the poor design. We feel a massive overhaul is needed, especially when those that have personally met us, have personally spoke with us & have realized what a great open, true & honest couple we are. A full make over of the shop door is needed :thumbsup


Have you thought about licensing your content?

rogueteens 07-22-2015 11:02 PM

going with new billing will destroy any confidence you have with existing affiliates but having said that, have a look at sliiing, they are pretty good from an affiliate POV and you'll be able to keep on using ccbill with the advantage of having a few back-up processors built in.

I agree that your sites need a redesign. at the moment they seem strangely soulless. what you need to do in my opinion is to just downsize. drop all of your sites except the main one, change that one so that its much more personal to Natalie. really push it as an "adventures of an amateur swinger" site (dump the idea of calling her a pornstar and really push the amateur side of things). your site needs more focus, at the moment you want her to be a swinger, a pornstar, a hotwife, a cheat and a whore, you are cuckolded, an interested observer and a pimp - that gets confusing for a surfer, concentrate on just one aspect and stick to it through the tour when telling the surfer whats inside.
You also really need to find someone to write your texts for you, sorry Gary but some of what you have written on your sites is rather painful to read - maybe actually get her to write it? or even ask her to talk about the shoot, record then transcript it as the sales text, it'll sound much more natural that way.

sandman! 07-22-2015 11:08 PM

good luck and hit me up if you need some new hosting :thumbsup

AllAboutCams 07-22-2015 11:33 PM

Have luck and post some updates

MrPay 07-23-2015 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 20531093)
Hang on, I thought you guys were going to give suggestions for business opportunities?

Mark, After moving to Spain with my partner, Gary & I have filmed some amazing outdoor content & cumshot creampie content, yet we're being told our website, is not worthy of selling. So, now we're left knowing if we spend a few grand on a design from zuzana it shall be sellable, especially when many have said the content was admirable & saleable, the problem was the design.

Left with little income from the poor design. We feel a massive overhaul is needed, especially when those that have personally met us, have personally spoke with us & have realized what a great open, true & honest couple we are. A full make over of the shop door is needed :thumbsup

Hi GspotProductions,

Congratulations on the brave move. Seems like lot of changes at once and some bold decisions on the horizon are about to be made. No need to jump on deep water right away unless you are certain and the risk factors are known to you at least to some extent. I am sure with some stamina and persistence things will work out!

You got some good advices here on keeping your cost under control and i would like to give you another one.

Consider SecurionPay gateway platform as your future partner. We can give you a significant cost advantage in comparison to other billers, especially IPSP and that will leave some nice money in your pocket for the start.

Since you are now in Europe and we are here as well (actually i am in Spain right now too) the communication will be way easier and immediate. Further to that we can improve your payment forms and overall conversion.

Think about this and contact me if we can support you. You will save both time and money working with us!

And good luck most of all!

L

RyuLion 07-23-2015 01:10 AM

Two Sig images are broken: GspotProductions, Rob

xFoundry 07-23-2015 03:39 AM

Check out WyldeSites.com, or adult-html.com.

DVTimes 07-23-2015 03:45 AM

arsewithclass.com and all your sites have been down for days Gary.

You have said you have found it hard to pay your server bill.

Conclusion is you made no cash and have to sell what you can.

I am not sure anyone will want to buy a domain name that's been offline so long and content that does not sell.

Anyway Gary, good luck.

DVTimes 07-23-2015 03:48 AM

By the way Gary, as you have closed your sites or run out of cash to host them, did you warn your affiliates to remove there links, or will they still be promoting sites that are not online?

Freedom6995 07-23-2015 03:50 AM

http://www.arsewithclass.com/ Is that you? You're down atm.

DVTimes 07-23-2015 03:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freedom6995 (Post 20531228)
http://www.arsewithclass.com/ Is that you? You're down atm.


Been down almost a week. With all his other sites too.

Roald 07-23-2015 04:01 AM

http://www.arsewithclass.com/ works for me :warning

k0nr4d 07-23-2015 04:03 AM

pics of the gtr?

k0nr4d 07-23-2015 04:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 20531235)
http://www.arsewithclass.com/ works for me :warning

Works here too, content looks great. :thumbsup

DVTimes 07-23-2015 04:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 20531235)
http://www.arsewithclass.com/ works for me :warning

The new site looks better.

scarlettcontent 07-23-2015 04:17 AM

good luck. need content hit us up :)

NatalieK 07-23-2015 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scarlettcontent (Post 20531244)
good luck. need content hit us up :)

We shoot our own content & all is reality inc. the parties & gangbangs, but cheers anyway :thumbsup


Quote:

Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 20531227)
did you warn your affiliates to remove there links, or will they still be promoting sites that are not online?

We've always held an acceptable use status & kept in contact with our affiliates. Therefore yes, we've emailed all our affiliates & explained our situation. We're dramatic, but wait & see what happens next :2 cents:

Hey divvy, strange I always answer you without any stupid remarks, maybe you can learn to grow up & do similar :thumbsup

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrPay (Post 20531150)
Hi GspotProductions,

Congratulations on the brave move.

Consider SecurionPay gateway platform as your future partner. We can give you a significant cost advantage in comparison to other billers, especially IPSP and that will leave some nice money in your pocket for the start.

Since you are now in Europe and we are here as well (actually i am in Spain right now too) the communication will be way easier and immediate. Further to that we can improve your payment forms and overall conversion.

Think about this and contact me if we can support you. You will save both time and money working with us!

And good luck most of all!

Thanks for the luck & hi also!

wondering, I see epoch now has paypal, this is the only reason I wondered about having a second tier, giving many people the paypal option, can you also provide this or would your company only give the second tier options, similar to ccbill who we are happy with & shall continue using as first tier?

Quote:

Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 20531133)
going with new billing will destroy any confidence you have with existing affiliates

I agree that your sites need a redesign. at the moment they seem strangely soulless. what you need to do in my opinion is to just downsize. drop all of your sites except the main one, change that one so that its much more personal to Natalie. really push it as an "adventures of an amateur swinger" site (dump the idea of calling her a pornstar and really push the amateur side of things). your site needs more focus, at the moment you want her to be a swinger, a pornstar, a hotwife, a cheat and a whore, you are cuckolded, an interested observer and a pimp - that gets confusing for a surfer, concentrate on just one aspect and stick to it through the tour when telling the surfer whats inside.
You also really need to find someone to write your texts for you, sorry Gary but some of what you have written on your sites is rather painful to read - maybe actually get her to write it? or even ask her to talk about the shoot, record then transcript it as the sales text, it'll sound much more natural that way.

We're not changing our billing company, we're going to add a second tier, as suggested from many in the past. Also, we're already speaking of down sizing, a brand new website designed by a new designer, hence the thread. Interviews are in question, I'm wondering whether to do this for my next venture, vlogs etc, but as said, in question as I do not like to speak much, I prefer to do :winkwink:

I think offering a designer like zuzana the choice of what they feel the site should look like would bring the focus together, don't you?

Quote:

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20531130)
Have you thought about licensing your content?

I think this could be a great idea, cheers Mark :thumbsup

Markul 07-23-2015 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 20531235)
http://www.arsewithclass.com/ works for me :warning

http://p.vitalbmx.com/photos/forums/..._o_1891513.jpg

ruff 07-23-2015 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 20531080)
Well, after much thought & negotiations. My partner & I are going to sell our car to purchase a new website name, a new server address & host, a new designer & new billing company.

A whole new look on a lot of content!

Obviously we have a remarkable amount of high quality content, great niches & a need to be in the business, especially selling our pride & joy, skyline GTR to make this work. However, listening to many, especially Sly, many have mentioned the design & structure.

Now, offering maybe a job or career? Maybe we're interested in hiring a project manager..... is some one interested?

I think we have our new name for my website, & we're probably staying with adulthosting.com as they're a remarkable company. However, is taking epoch up for billing with ccbill as second tier a good idea or is ccbill enough on it's on & is zuzana a worthy company or would you recommend anyone else?

This is a serious business opportunity & I'd appreciate reality answers, especially as I'm pissed at my man selling our GTR just to pay for all the new redesign & further our business, thanks :thumbsup

Good luck with your new site. You can always get another car later on.

michael.kickass 07-23-2015 06:40 AM

Post a pic of your car.

Google Expert 07-23-2015 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 20531080)
Well, after much thought & negotiations. My partner & I are going to sell our car to purchase a new website name, a new server address & host, a new designer & new billing company.

A whole new look on a lot of content!

Obviously we have a remarkable amount of high quality content, great niches & a need to be in the business, especially selling our pride & joy, skyline GTR to make this work. However, listening to many, especially Sly, many have mentioned the design & structure.

Now, offering maybe a job or career? Maybe we're interested in hiring a project manager..... is some one interested?

I think we have our new name for my website, & we're probably staying with adulthosting.com as they're a remarkable company. However, is taking epoch up for billing with ccbill as second tier a good idea or is ccbill enough on it's on & is zuzana a worthy company or would you recommend anyone else?

This is a serious business opportunity & I'd appreciate reality answers, especially as I'm pissed at my man selling our GTR just to pay for all the new redesign & further our business, thanks :thumbsup

http://i.imgur.com/D4h2iWb.jpg

Sly 07-23-2015 08:19 AM

Your second-tier biller will pick up around 10-15% of lost sales. Until that lost 10-15% can pay for the second-tier biller, it's not something you should be spending your money on. Do that later when you are making sales.

Remember 10-15% of nothing is still nothing, focus on changing that nothing.

rogueteens 07-23-2015 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 20531279)
We're not changing our billing company, we're going to add a second tier, as suggested from many in the past. Also, we're already speaking of down sizing, a brand new website designed by a new designer, hence the thread. Interviews are in question, I'm wondering whether to do this for my next venture, vlogs etc, but as said, in question as I do not like to speak much, I prefer to do :winkwink:

I think offering a designer like zuzana the choice of what they feel the site should look like would bring the focus together, don't you?

you missed my point about getting Natalie to talk and be transcribed. what i meant was when you post an update on the tour, get her to talk about the experience and use that as the sales text - it makes it more personal.

I'm pretty sure that most designers will do a design based on what you want rather than what they think you want and at the moment, you don't really seem to have a clear idea of what direction you want your site to be. After all, if you want Natalie to be portrayed as a pornstar then you'll want a flashy tour but if you go down the amateur route then you'll need a grittier-looking tour. I still think that at the moment you are trying to have your site covering too many bases and needs to be more focused. After all, whats the point of spending cash only to be back where you started, not making money.

SekobA 07-23-2015 01:33 PM

Good luck with your future plans

clickity click 07-23-2015 03:14 PM

I only know you as Gary as that's what everyone calls you but you protest gary is your fella.
What is your name. I vaguely remember Natelie or something, is that right?

DVTimes, it's pretty clear they are trying to improve the website and have abandoned arsewithclass (shitty name) for something better.
Well done for noticing that their site was offline like they didn't already know.

MaDalton 07-23-2015 03:16 PM

whenever i read "my partner" i want to scream at my screen

DVTimes 07-23-2015 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clickity click (Post 20531865)
I only know you as Gary as that's what everyone calls you but you protest gary is your fella.
What is your name. I vaguely remember Natelie or something, is that right?

DVTimes, it's pretty clear they are trying to improve the website and have abandoned arsewithclass (shitty name) for something better.
Well done for noticing that their site was offline like they didn't already know.

ALL his sites seem to be down, inc:

gspotcash.net (his webmaster site to promote all his 6 sites)

clickity click 07-23-2015 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20531867)
whenever i read "my partner" i want to scream at my screen

Why is that?

Sly 07-23-2015 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clickity click (Post 20531878)
Why is that?

He likes to scream at his partner.

420 07-23-2015 03:30 PM

Why not use the car as a mobile brothel instead? I bet gary could suck 5+ cocks an hour.

DVTimes 07-23-2015 03:39 PM

So I take it the prostitution at £500 for a night of unprotected sex (bareback) is not making you much cash then.

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Things do not seem to be going too well for you Gary.

Hope things improve.

clickity click 07-23-2015 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by michael.kickass (Post 20531339)
Post a pic of your car.

http://i.imgur.com/AM5fB3l.jpg


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