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dyna mo 09-02-2015 09:40 AM

liberals, how do you explain away Dr. Ben Carson?
 
so Trump's supporters are angry racist and stupid and that's why Trump is leading the polls.

Carson is now tied with Trump. are all of his supporters angry racists too?

Election 2016: Inside Ben Carson's quiet surge - CNNPolitics.com

Grapesoda 09-02-2015 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20568178)
so Trump's supporters are angry racist and stupid and that's why Trump is leading the polls.

Carson is now tied with Trump. are all of his supporters angry racists too?

Election 2016: Inside Ben Carson's quiet surge - CNNPolitics.com

of course... seriously :thumbsup

marcop 09-02-2015 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20568178)
so Trump's supporters are angry racist and stupid and that's why Trump is leading the polls.

Carson is now tied with Trump. are all of his supporters angry racists too?

Election 2016: Inside Ben Carson's quiet surge - CNNPolitics.com

I had lunch with two Republican friends last week, and they both liked the same four candidates: in order, Ben Carson, Trump, Ted Cruz, and Carly Fiorina. And yes, from other conversations I've had with them, they're racists, though they're totally unaware that they are.

dyna mo 09-02-2015 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by marcop (Post 20568191)
I had lunch with two Republican friends last week, and they both liked the same four candidates: in order, Ben Carson, Trump, Ted Cruz, and Carly Fiorina. And yes, from other conversations I've had with them, they're racists, though they're totally unaware that they are.

your friends are racist based on your observations disregarding that they like a black guy? are they misogynistic too, in spite of liking fiorini?

SuckOnThis 09-02-2015 09:58 AM

Because conservatives are so nuts that they actually believe Jesus came to this clown in a dream and gave him the answers to his college chemistry test.

:1orglaugh


Ben Carson: I Aced My College Chemistry Final Because God Gave Me All the Answers in a Dream

dyna mo 09-02-2015 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 20568209)
Because conservatives are so nuts that they actually believe Jesus came to this clown in a dream and gave him the answers to his college chemistry test.

:1orglaugh


Ben Carson: I Aced My College Chemistry Final Because God Gave Me All the Answers in a Dream

i remember when Bill Clinton signed into law the Religious Freedom Act.

dyna mo 09-02-2015 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 20568209)
Because conservatives are so nuts that they actually believe Jesus came to this clown in a dream and gave him the answers to his college chemistry test.

:1orglaugh


Ben Carson: I Aced My College Chemistry Final Because God Gave Me All the Answers in a Dream

Does it matter to you that Hillary Clinton was a member of the Senate Prayer Group?

dyna mo 09-02-2015 10:13 AM

a few quotes from Obama:

From the Christmas Tree lighting ceremony in Washington on Dec. 2, 2011

"More than 2,000 years ago, a child was born to two faithful travelers who could find rest only in a stable, among the cattle and the sheep. But this was not just any child. Christ's birth made the angels rejoice and attracted shepherds and kings from afar. He was a manifestation of God's love for us.

"And he grew up to become a leader with a servant's heart who taught us a message as simple as it is powerful: that we should love God, and love our neighbor as ourselves. That teaching has come to encircle the globe. No matter who we are, or where we come from, or how we worship, it's a message that can unite all of us on this holiday season."

From an Easter Prayer Breakfast on April 19, 2011 at the White House

"I wanted to host this breakfast for a simple reason -- because as busy as we are, as many tasks as pile up, during this season, we are reminded that there's something about the resurrection -- something about the resurrection of our savior, Jesus Christ, that puts everything else in perspective.

"We all live in the hustle and bustle of our work. And everybody in this room has weighty responsibilities, from leading churches and denominations, to helping to administer important government programs, to shaping our culture in various ways. And I admit that my plate has been full as well. The inbox keeps on accumulating.

"But then comes Holy Week. The triumph of Palm Sunday. The humility of Jesus washing the disciples' feet. His slow march up that hill, and the pain and the scorn and the shame of the cross. And we're reminded that in that moment, he took on the sins of the world -- past, present and future -- and he extended to us that unfathomable gift of grace and salvation through his death and resurrection."

From the National Prayer Breakfast on Feb. 3, 2011

"And like all of us, my faith journey has had its twists and turns. It hasn't always been a straight line. I have thanked God for the joys of parenthood and Michelle's willingness to put up with me. In the wake of failures and disappointments I've questioned what God had in store for me and been reminded that God's plans for us may not always match our own short-sighted desires.

"And let me tell you, these past two years, they have deepened my faith. The presidency has a funny way of making a person feel the need to pray. Abe Lincoln said, as many of you know, 'I have been driven to my knees many times by the overwhelming conviction that I had no place else to go.'"

From an Easter Prayer Breakfast on April 6, 2010 at the White House

"For even after the passage of 2,000 years, we can still picture the moment in our mind's eye. The young man from Nazareth marched through Jerusalem; object of scorn and derision and abuse and torture by an empire. The agony of crucifixion amid the cries of thieves. The discovery, just three days later, that would forever alter our world -- that the Son of Man was not to be found in his tomb and that Jesus Christ had risen.

"We are awed by the grace he showed even to those who would have killed him. We are thankful for the sacrifice he gave for the sins of humanity. And we glory in the promise of redemption in the resurrection."

From the National Prayer Breakfast on Feb. 6, 2009

"I was not raised in a particularly religious household. I had a father who was born a Muslim but became an atheist, grandparents who were non-practicing Methodists and Baptists, and a mother who was skeptical of organized religion, even as she was the kindest, most spiritual person I've ever known. She was the one who taught me as a child to love, and to understand, and to do unto others as I would want done.

"I didn't become a Christian until many years later, when I moved to the South Side of Chicago after college. It happened not because of indoctrination or a sudden revelation, but because I spent month after month working with church folks who simply wanted to help neighbors who were down on their luck no matter what they looked like, or where they came from, or who they prayed to. It was on those streets, in those neighborhoods, that I first heard God's spirit beckon me. It was there that I felt called to a higher purpose -- His purpose."

SuckOnThis 09-02-2015 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20568222)
Does it matter to you that Hillary Clinton was a member of the Senate Prayer Group?

People are free to do what they want but I'm not sure what Hillary has to do with it, I'm not a Hillary supporter, but the day she comes out and says God spoke to her and told her how to cook a steak I will label her crazy as well.

More priceless Carson quotes that the loonies lap up:

?A lot of people who go into prison straight, and when they come out they?re gay.?

?You know Obamacare is really I think the worst thing that has happened in this nation since slavery."

Ben Carson Warns of Obama Declaring Martial Law If Anarchy Cancels 2016 Election


http://cdn.thinkprogress.org/wp-cont.../BenCarson.jpg

dyna mo 09-02-2015 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 20568235)
People are free to do what they want but I'm not sure what Hillary has to do with it, I'm not a Hillary supporter, but the day she comes out and says God spoke to her and told her how to cook a steak I will label her crazy as well.

"We talked with God, walked with God, ate, studied and argued with God."

-Hillary Clinton



Hillary Clinton is talking about her faith. Again. - The Washington Post

mineistaken 09-02-2015 10:24 AM

I raised this point few days ago - the reply was something "it proves that polls are a joke".
Libtards will better find some excuse rather than admit that their bullshit images of republicans are false.
As usual :)

SuckOnThis 09-02-2015 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20568242)
"We talked with God, walked with God, ate, studied and argued with God."

-Hillary Clinton



Hillary Clinton is talking about her faith. Again. - The Washington Post


Clearly the same as saying God came to me in a dream and gave me the answers to a test.

:1orglaugh

Why do you defend crazy people?

dyna mo 09-02-2015 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 20568248)
Clearly the same as saying God came to me in a dream and gave me the answers to a test.

:1orglaugh

Why do you defend crazy people?

i'm not defending anybody. i'm exposing the hypocrisy of liberals.

so just to be clear

republican and dreaming about God = fruitloop

democrat and arguing, eating, walking and studying with God = free pass.


got it.

SuckOnThis 09-02-2015 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20568250)
i'm not defending anybody. i'm exposing the hypocrisy of liberals.

Nah, you're just bored.

Remember, an idle mind is the devils playground.

dyna mo 09-02-2015 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 20568209)
Because conservatives are so nuts that they actually believe Jesus came to this clown in a dream and gave him the answers to his college chemistry test.

:1orglaugh


Ben Carson: I Aced My College Chemistry Final Because God Gave Me All the Answers in a Dream

actually, that's not at all what he said.


dyna mo 09-02-2015 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 20568252)
Nah, you're just bored.

Remember, an idle mind is the devils playground.

you are well-versed in bible quotes.

bronco67 09-02-2015 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20568178)
so Trump's supporters are angry racist and stupid and that's why Trump is leading the polls.

Carson is now tied with Trump. are all of his supporters angry racists too?

Election 2016: Inside Ben Carson's quiet surge - CNNPolitics.com

Why do you want to defend a group of close-minded, bigoted jerk-offs so badly? What is it that makes you blind to what group of whack-bags conservatives are collectively?

dyna mo 09-02-2015 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20568270)
Why do you want to defend a group of close-minded, bigoted jerk-offs so badly?

i'm not defending liberals. ask yourself why Hillary hides her faith.

crockett 09-02-2015 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20568178)
so Trump's supporters are angry racist and stupid and that's why Trump is leading the polls.

Carson is now tied with Trump. are all of his supporters angry racists too?

Election 2016: Inside Ben Carson's quiet surge - CNNPolitics.com

Even George Bush was after a little Condi Rice on the side...

CDSmith 09-02-2015 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by marcop
I had lunch with two Republican friends last week,

I had breakfast with a republican three weeks ago. We talked about guns mostly, to be honest; gun control, gun safety, what most people don't know about guns or weapon handling, his commentary about guns as pertaining to certain news stories of late, and how people can be very stupid about guns. That sort of thing.

Then again he was one of the top gunsmiths in the country some decades ago, and still owns over 80 weapons himself, several of which are bonified antiques, all of which are kept in mint condition. He considers himself not so much pro-gun as anti-stupid. Meaning he more than anyone knows that some gun control laws and regulations are smart, while others as well as some being proposed, are moronic and won't work.

My conversation with this fellow was quite simply fascinating. The meal itself was fantastic but I barely remember it as I hung on every word from this 70+ yr old retired business owner/sportsman/hunting, fishing & gun expert. I found myself wishing I'd vid-cap'd it.

The name Trump, however, did not come up once. Neither did Carson's. Frankly at this point I can't say which way the guy might be leaning. Could be he's a Jeb Busher, but he's also a great lover of women (two self-described wonderful former marriages spanning over 35 years, 4 daughters, 7 or 8 grand-daughters) so Fiorina would not be out of the question, especially since she's a long-time 2nd amendment supporter and gun owner herself.

Hey, like it or not it's going to be one of the big issues in this election largely due to the recent mass shootings. Now, this might get some of you wondering what Trump's stance on guns is, as well as others. It certainly got me curious.

In case you missed it: Trump's recent comments on gun ownership and his Complete Gun Platform Here.

Dr Ben Carson's stance on guns here

Jeb Bush pro-gun but not soft on gun-related crime

For that matter here is Hillary's stance on guns. Read it, don't read it. But if you're going to knock her (or any candidate really) over the coming umpteen months you best know what you're talking about.

SuckOnThis 09-02-2015 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20568264)
you are well-versed in bible quotes.


Apparently more so than your boy Trump who claims The Bible is his favorite book....



dyna mo 09-02-2015 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 20568310)
Apparently more so than your boy Trump who claims The Bible is his favorite book....

i've stated many many many many many many many many many many times that my guy is jim webb. :1orglaugh

SuckOnThis 09-02-2015 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20568314)
i've stated many many many many many many many many many many times that my guy is jim webb. :1orglaugh

Cool.


http://cdn.spectator.org/8632574_2.jpg

dyna mo 09-02-2015 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 20568326)
Cool.

he's another democrat (like HIllary) who has to hide his faith so liberals don't get offended and confused.

Robbie 09-02-2015 11:50 AM

I can't seriously believe that ANY of the candidates both Dem and Repub actually believe any of that religious superstitious nonsense.

All of them are well educated and all of them are older and have seen the world.

I know they all claim to have "faith" and "believe" in Sweet Baby Jesus because if they don't say that then the religious nutcases will tear them to shreds.

But come on. Does anybody really believe that shit?

I mean...even preachers don't REALLY believe it. It's just a way to bring in money in the collection plate so they can hook up later with a male prostitute and do some blow (and hope they don't get caught) lol

The only recent politician who I thought wasn't in on the fix and actually BELEIVES is Sarah Palin. When I saw footage of that crazy bitch speaking in tongues, that very second was when I threw out any thought of voting McCain in 2008 and going full steam ahead with Obama.

At least Obama is in on the whole "act religious so the masses will accept you" scam. But I think Palin is actually one of the sheep that believe that nonsense.

Slappin Fish 09-02-2015 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20568351)
I can't seriously believe that ANY of the candidates both Dem and Repub actually believe any of that religious superstitious nonsense.

All of them are well educated and all of them are older and have seen the world.

I know they all claim to have "faith" and "believe" in Sweet Baby Jesus because if they don't say that then the religious nutcases will tear them to shreds.

But come on. Does anybody really believe that shit?

I mean...even preachers don't REALLY believe it. It's just a way to bring in money in the collection plate so they can hook up later with a male prostitute and do some blow (and hope they don't get caught) lol

The only recent politician who I thought wasn't in on the fix and actually BELEIVES is Sarah Palin. When I saw footage of that crazy bitch speaking in tongues, that very second was when I threw out any thought of voting McCain in 2008 and going full steam ahead with Obama.

At least Obama is in on the whole "act religious so the masses will accept you" scam. But I think Palin is actually one of the sheep that believe that nonsense.

Haha.. good post :1orglaugh:thumbsup

dyna mo 09-02-2015 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20568351)
I can't seriously believe that ANY of the candidates both Dem and Repub actually believe any of that religious superstitious nonsense.

All of them are well educated and all of them are older and have seen the world.

I know they all claim to have "faith" and "believe" in Sweet Baby Jesus because if they don't say that then the religious nutcases will tear them to shreds.

But come on. Does anybody really believe that shit?

I mean...even preachers don't REALLY believe it. It's just a way to bring in money in the collection plate so they can hook up later with a male prostitute and do some blow (and hope they don't get caught) lol

The only recent politician who I thought wasn't in on the fix and actually BELEIVES is Sarah Palin. When I saw footage of that crazy bitch speaking in tongues, that very second was when I threw out any thought of voting McCain in 2008 and going full steam ahead with Obama.

At least Obama is in on the whole "act religious so the masses will accept you" scam. But I think Palin is actually one of the sheep that believe that nonsense.

how do you account for Carson's popularity in the polls? is he stealing angry racist votes from Trump? and there are plenty of people who have real faith in god.

Robbie 09-02-2015 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20568359)
how do you account for Carson's popularity in the polls? is he stealing angry racist votes from Trump?

No, I think he's pulling in the "moral majority" religious votes that Santorum got in 2012.

And I think that will be his downfall in the end. And if he somehow pulls Trump into that same "abortion" trap...it will take out the Republican candidate in the general election as well.

If I were Trump and a reporter started up on me about abortion...I'd look them straight in the eye and say: "What the fuck does abortion have to do with the trouble this country is in. Stop trying to deflect away from the real issues. I don't care about any social issues. That's not what a President does."

dyna mo 09-02-2015 12:08 PM

it's odd to me that people think the only reason Carson is tied with Trump is on account of religion, nothing to do with his being a successful doctor, philanthropist and a political outsider.

he talks a lot about personal responsibility.

crockett 09-02-2015 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20568359)
how do you account for Carson's popularity in the polls? is he stealing angry racist votes from Trump? and there are plenty of people who have real faith in god.

You should be smart enough to figure it out... Carson is picking up the consertive Relgious vote. It should be easy enough to figure out that Trump has not pandered to the Religious Right and what he has done came off as very fake.

I'd say the RR, is very skeptical of Trump and likely doesn't approve of his constant bashing of people, so they are going for the next best guy. Outside of the Relgious pandering Carson seems intelligent and well spoken.. So he will be the Relgious Right's boy..

Trump is the angry white person's boy.. It's easy to see the split in the types of people who support Trump vs Carson..

crockett 09-02-2015 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20568376)
it's odd to me that people think the only reason Carson is tied with Trump is on account of religion, nothing to do with his being a successful doctor, philanthropist and a political outsider.

he talks a lot about personal responsibility.

He is a good speaker and sounds intelligent (oh my where have we seen that before) but he very much panders to the Relgious right.. If it weren't for his Relgious agenda he wouldn't be a bad candidate, however the Relgious stuff turns off a lot of people including myself...

EonBlue 09-02-2015 12:47 PM

Here's John Kerry on the supposed duty to protect muslim countries from climate change as commanded by the bible:

Quote:

...our faiths and our fates are inextricably linked. And that is profoundly why we must do this now. Because they are linked. Our fates are inextricably linked on any number of things that we must confront and deal with in policy concepts today.

Our fates are inextricably linked on the environment. For many of us, respect for God?s creation also translates into a duty to protect and sustain His first creation: Earth, the planet.

Before God created man, He created Heaven and Earth. Confronting climate change is, in the long run, one of the greatest challenges we face. And you can see this duty, or responsibility, laid out in scriptures clearly, beginning in Genesis.

And Muslim-majority countries are among the most vulnerable. Our response to this challenge ought to be rooted in a sense of stewardship of Earth. And for me and for many of us here today, that responsibility comes from God.

Not sure why liberals think that conservatives have a monopoly on lunacy.



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dyna mo 09-02-2015 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20568387)
You should be smart enough to figure it out... Carson is picking up the consertive Relgious vote. It should be easy enough to figure out that Trump has not pandered to the Religious Right and what he has done came off as very fake.

I'd say the RR, is very skeptical of Trump and likely doesn't approve of his constant bashing of people, so they are going for the next best guy. Outside of the Relgious pandering Carson seems intelligent and well spoken.. So he will be the Relgious Right's boy..

Trump is the angry white person's boy.. It's easy to see the split in the types of people who support Trump vs Carson..

the smartest minds on the planet can't figure out politics. it's as irrational as love.

my guess is it's simply another group of disenfranchised voters. some like to refer to them as angry and stupid. i think disenfranchised is more appropriate. their eager to vote against the status-quo politicians.

i was studying the democratic candidates yesterday, all of the viable ones are thoroughly entrenched (not just career, but entrenched) politicians with 25-35 years in politics.

i wonder 1) why isn't there an unentrenched viable democrat candidate and 2) would that person be better received than a republican unentrenched candidate like Trump or Carson.

EonBlue 09-02-2015 12:54 PM

Here's the kind of liberal/Democrat lunacy that is taking over the USA and other overly sensitive PC societies:

Inclusive Practice: Pronoun Usage

Quote:

Gender-neutral pronouns

We are familiar with the singular pronouns she, her, hers and he, him, his, but those are not the only singular pronouns. In fact, there are dozens of gender-neutral pronouns.

A few of the most common singular gender-neutral pronouns are they, them, their (used as singular), ze, hir, hirs, and xe, xem, xyr.

How do you know?

How do you know what pronoun someone uses? If you cannot use the methods mentioned above, you can always politely ask. ?Oh, nice to meet you, [insert name]. What pronouns should I use?? is a perfectly fine question to ask.

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dyna mo 09-02-2015 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20568393)
He is a good speaker and sounds intelligent (oh my where have we seen that before) but he very much panders to the Relgious right.. If it weren't for his Relgious agenda he wouldn't be a bad candidate, however the Relgious stuff turns off a lot of people including myself...

i've yet to uncover any pandering to the religious right in his candidacy. it doesn't appear he is pandering to anyone at all. but pandering has a negative connotation, so i hear where you are coming from. and i also can't find any demographics on his supporters/voters.

Sly 09-02-2015 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 20568436)
Here's the kind of liberal/Democrat lunacy that is taking over the USA and other overly sensitive PC societies:

Inclusive Practice: Pronoun Usage




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Best ever first date question.

:1orglaugh

Like that Goldman Sachs Elevator dude says: nobody gives a fuck if you are offended, get over yourself.

Robbie 09-02-2015 01:29 PM

crockett likes to use "angry white guys" because then it sounds like it's a bunch of mean spirited rednecks who are just constantly angry at everything in the world.

Reality: It's people who are just tired of being lied to and feeling like they have voted for a candidate who doesn't do anything he/she promised.

Doesn't matter if they are white, black, Hispanic, or Asian. People are starting to see that politicians are lying to them and they don't like it.
Doesn't mean that they are "angry" people.

Angry people would be the black people on the streets protesting cops shooting them to death every other day. That is "angry".

Deciding not to vote for the "same old, same old" and send a message to Washington D.C. by using your right to vote is NOT angry.

And yes crockett, your racist view that ONLY white people have enough intelligence to finally see through politicians lies is rather disturbing.

Robbie 09-02-2015 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20568437)
i've yet to uncover any pandering to the religious right in his candidacy. it doesn't appear he is pandering to anyone at all. but pandering has a negative connotation, so i hear where you are coming from. and i also can't find any demographics on his supporters/voters.

I don't think Carson is pandering at all either.
I just think he's putting out there in his own quiet demeanor way that he is THE guy for the religious right.

And if you think about it, politically he IS the perfect guy for the religious right.

A super intelligent doctor who is thoughtful and softspoken and doesn't give off the "crazy" aura of a Palin or a Santorum.

I personally wouldn't want anyone in office talking about their "beliefs" and can't stand it when I hear politicians who ARE in office babbling that children's superstitious crap.

I don't know how they can do it with a straight face. And I can just imagine them having a beer afterwards and laughing about it.

kane 09-02-2015 01:53 PM

I have said this a few times and still believe it. There is a good amount of the republican party that are conservative Christian evangelicals. they often support candidates that they feel agree with them when it comes to faith and beliefs. Trump has likely gotten support from some of them because they likely agree with his position on immigration or the economy, but they are not sold on him sharing their faith. Carson is the kind of guy who shares their faith so in a place like Iowa where there is a good concentration of evangelicals it is no surprise that they have picked him as the person they support.

It has nothing to do with race and everything to do with religion.

2MuchMark 09-02-2015 01:55 PM

So who would you vote for? Carson or Trump?


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