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kamionsofor 10-12-2015 09:42 AM

5000$ is enough?
 
Hello everybody! What you guys think do 5000$ is enough or do I need more to make a membership site such as my favourite sexuallybroken(dot)com , with my own content that I'd shoot ?

RandyRandy 10-12-2015 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by kamionsofor (Post 20602579)
Hello everybody! What you guys think do 5000$ is enough or do I need more to make a membership site such as my favourite sexuallybroken(dot)com , with my own content that I'd shoot ?


I could be way off, but I think the models of Kink or PD's sites get about $2,000. So, no, $5,000 wouldn't scratch the surface. Even if you could get girls for $500, that leaves nothing for the site, marketing, traffic. You'd have to partner up with someone who can bring what you're missing to the table.

L-Pink 10-12-2015 10:17 AM

no


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kamionsofor 10-12-2015 10:39 AM

Thanks for your answer RandyRandy! How much $ is recommended to start, whats your opinion? I dont think if I could double the price, but still would like to know.

Pseudonymous 10-12-2015 10:42 AM

Can't answer your question as when it comes to production, majority of the cost is location/models if you already have the gear.

Why wouldn't you provide atleast some information, we aren't psychic. You shooting all of it at your home, do you have a studio?

Do you have a connection to cheap models? How much do you think you can pay them. This is all information you have. Not us

if you have nothing and no idea where to find models, or going rate and no location or studio and no gear. You couldn't even start on the project with 5k ;)

How crappy do you want to make it?

You could do a design yourself, pay 50 bucks. you could pay hookers 50 bucks.

Realistic needs/prices:

500-1000 design
depending on CMS (integration cost)
promo tools cost unless you are promoting yourself and designing banners yourself
editing?
affiliate program design?
model cost for atleast 7-10 scenes (to launch) and atleast enough to maintain your site until you are you self sustained. so another 4-6 months of scenes because youre a newbie (so 4 updates a month x 4-6 months, you get the point)
location
equipment?
documents (2257/contracts)
agency fees if you can't find yourself
are you near models? flights?
wardrobe? kink related toys and stuff? (i have no idea what you need, i dont watch that stuff lol)

To answer your question, i wouldn't do a hardcore/kink website with anything close to that, or even 10k. Try a solo site to start. Learn the industry

L-Pink 10-12-2015 10:48 AM

WTF? Have you attempted to make a business plan?

Have you researched the cost to rent/purchase photography/video equipment?
Have you researched the cost to build a website?
Have you researched the cost to shoot a model?
Do you possess the skills needed to shot your own models?

If you make a business plan you can see for yourself you have the budget to fail and nothing else.

Pseudonymous 10-12-2015 11:08 AM

To add to my last post, 5k is enough for a cheap solo site where you have a partnership with the model. she shoots for free and gets 50 percent of earnings. Thats your best bet

to be honest, youre likely to make more doing that than if you launched a kink site

Paul Markham 10-12-2015 01:53 PM

How long is a piece of string and will it be long enough?

bloggerz 10-12-2015 02:00 PM

Nowdays, $5k won't get you far in this biz...

SBJ 10-12-2015 02:04 PM

dude you want to do a bondage site for $5k?? The bondage gear and props will prolly cost you over $5k before you even get started.

Like others said you might be able to launch a solo girl site for under $5k if you are good with your money but a hardcore site let alone a bondage site?? You should think 3-4 times that if you want it to be a good one. No one will pay $30 a month to see a ugly craigslist crack whore wearing pleather getting tired up with duck tape cause that is all you could afford. :1orglaugh

PornoPlopedia 10-12-2015 02:55 PM

it works if you get real cotton slaves to model for you. Even then you will go over budget

j3rkules 10-12-2015 03:13 PM

No way you will run a paysite with that money...

Struggle4Bucks 10-12-2015 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by kamionsofor (Post 20602579)
Hello everybody! What you guys think do 5000$ is enough or do I need more to make a membership site such as my favourite sexuallybroken(dot)com , with my own content that I'd shoot ?

From scratch? You'll need at least $80000... (that includes a 6 month period to become profitable)

... so if you're not profitable after 6 months then it's bye bye $80000

Ribbet Hog 10-12-2015 05:13 PM

Find an invester and pay probono all you can...

J. Falcon 10-12-2015 05:35 PM

The things you read these days...

L-Pink 10-12-2015 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Ribbet Hog (Post 20603016)
Find an invester and pay probono all you can...

It's probably a blessing I don't understand a thing you say.

Ultimatrix 10-13-2015 12:55 AM

Make a well structured plan and then consult with experienced members. You can't work on speculations.

xxxmobiles 10-13-2015 01:55 AM

I m here to learn on this forum. And this thread has pretty good info for a newbie like me who is looking for similar answers.

Paul Markham 10-13-2015 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 20603032)
The things you read these days...

:2 cents:

blackmonsters 10-13-2015 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kamionsofor (Post 20602579)
Hello everybody! What you guys think do 5000$ is enough or do I need more to make a membership site such as my favourite sexuallybroken(dot)com , with my own content that I'd shoot ?


Best person to answer this is BlackVaginaFinder.
He finds ways to save bucks.

:1orglaugh

pgmorin 10-13-2015 01:00 PM

dont forget for the first year you have to pay visa/mastercard 1k each

after that it 500$ each every years.

SilentKnight 10-13-2015 08:17 PM

We launched our first bondage site back in '99 - well under $5k. But we did everything ourselves - everything. Built most of our own props, did all the photography, editing, designed the website. Our main cost was the revshare hosting - which we eventually got away from and handled hosting ourselves.

It was a shitload of work...60-80 hour workweeks for many, many years. If I wasn't in the studio, I was in the production office editting...or in the workshop designing props and gear, background sets...etc.

And then there was the promotion to consider.

These days - $5k?

Good luck.

plaster 10-13-2015 08:53 PM

If you are into it just shoot it and create a wordpress site using a host who can protect the security issues (way3.com can). Cut it yourself and upload clips to all the big tubes. Let the surfers decide if they like it. Make your wordpress free and gain traction.

You can do anything if you put your mind to it. And if you have that raw talent and eye for it you will know if you should continue.

cottonking 10-13-2015 10:54 PM

80K LMAO ok yea but if he gets lucky he can do it for 20k. I knew a guy I built websites for back in the day. He had me do his film editing. This guy was wild crack head recovered tattoo artist. He had 500 videos to edit and put up. Each video cost him 20 bucks. That was the price of a BJ and free tattoo - which he gave the girl. No shit. Anyway, he decided to eliminate the male actor. I made fun of this beer can cock (never saw the male actors face). I worked for a year editing those videos and making fun of the beer can cock. Eventually, he got really upset with me. Told me it was his beer can cock! The guy never talked in the video! I could never tell it was him. So if you can cut corners and make content that is interesting for not much....you can do it for less than 5K! But the chances of success can be lower unless you have a great simple effective marketing plan...like working your ass off on social media for free.

cottonking 10-13-2015 10:57 PM

Zombiao has 0 upfront cost and amember can handle content protection with a wordpress plugin plus amember bills for zombiao.

Colmike9 10-14-2015 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by cottonking (Post 20604131)
Zombiao has 0 upfront cost and amember can handle content protection with a wordpress plugin plus amember bills for zombiao.

I've heard nothing but bad things about Zombaio..

Struggle4Bucks 10-14-2015 07:38 AM

:thumbsup
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Originally Posted by cottonking (Post 20604130)
80K LMAO ok yea but if he gets lucky he can do it for 20k. I knew a guy I built websites for back in the day. He had me do his film editing. This guy was wild crack head recovered tattoo artist. He had 500 videos to edit and put up. Each video cost him 20 bucks. That was the price of a BJ and free tattoo - which he gave the girl. No shit. Anyway, he decided to eliminate the male actor. I made fun of this beer can cock (never saw the male actors face). I worked for a year editing those videos and making fun of the beer can cock. Eventually, he got really upset with me. Told me it was his beer can cock! The guy never talked in the video! I could never tell it was him. So if you can cut corners and make content that is interesting for not much....you can do it for less than 5K! But the chances of success can be lower unless you have a great simple effective marketing plan...like working your ass off on social media for free.

You clearly never filmed any content like this... nor you tried to push a paysite into this days market... OP said he wanted to shoot HIMSELF content like SexuallyBroken. That implies a lot... That content has a certain quality... if you want to reach that level of quality you are looking at $1000+ a scene. Start a site with 24 scenes and shoot 24 scenes ahead for the next 24 weeks (weekly update) and you burned almost $50000 allready. 20 bucks a scene? :1orglaugh LMAO.... you must be kidding... So he paid crackheads 20 bucks for a bj... that's something completely different then paying appealing models a fee for: bondage, gags, whipping, nipple torture, full B/G, etc etc etc.... 20 bucks :1orglaugh get the fuck outahere...

So... after you burned 50K for high quality content... then you need a server; programmer for website (common please... you're going to fix yourself a wordpress site???) and technical infrastructure.... etc...
Budget for marketing; budget for this budget for that....

Good luck with your "less then 5K if you can cut corners":1orglaugh

chaze 10-14-2015 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by kamionsofor (Post 20602579)
Hello everybody! What you guys think do 5000$ is enough or do I need more to make a membership site such as my favourite sexuallybroken(dot)com , with my own content that I'd shoot ?

If you can get cheap models, the site will be 3k plus the merchant account and hosting will bring things around $4000

SpicyM 10-14-2015 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by cottonking (Post 20604130)
80K LMAO ok yea but if he gets lucky he can do it for 20k. I knew a guy I built websites for back in the day. He had me do his film editing. This guy was wild crack head recovered tattoo artist. He had 500 videos to edit and put up. Each video cost him 20 bucks. That was the price of a BJ and free tattoo - which he gave the girl. No shit. Anyway, he decided to eliminate the male actor. I made fun of this beer can cock (never saw the male actors face). I worked for a year editing those videos and making fun of the beer can cock. Eventually, he got really upset with me. Told me it was his beer can cock! The guy never talked in the video! I could never tell it was him. So if you can cut corners and make content that is interesting for not much....you can do it for less than 5K! But the chances of success can be lower unless you have a great simple effective marketing plan...like working your ass off on social media for free.

$20 ?? :-D With signed model release?? :)

SpicyM 10-14-2015 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by pgmorin (Post 20603800)
dont forget for the first year you have to pay visa/mastercard 1k each

after that it 500$ each every years.

He is from EU. I believe it is $500/year for MasterCard and $0 for VISA.

pgmorin 10-14-2015 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by cottonking (Post 20604131)
Zombiao has 0 upfront cost and amember can handle content protection with a wordpress plugin plus amember bills for zombiao.

Dont use them they stole the money of many webmaster. They own me 500$. I mean if you doing so bad you need to steal 500$ ?? something wrong lol

plaster 10-14-2015 09:18 AM

Yes, no money just set it up on wordpress. Wordpress sucks, they get hacked and gets spammed to hell. Disable comments and make sure no pending comments can be left. You can even find free tube themes. Shoot what you can, when you can, and feel it out.
I turned a free niche site from like $100/month to over $8k/month but it started free and I got the audience first and the se rankings.

Do not pay for anything except the girls to film and associated costs. And def. Do not use zombaio.

j3rkules 10-14-2015 09:37 AM

Kindly tip, stay away from Zombaio... check out what other members say about their experiences with them.

adentio99 11-23-2015 12:56 AM

On the CMS and technical part of it - I can help you with low cost - after 6 months - once you're profitable -you can pay back the remaining amount. But in no way - you gonna achieve all list in $5K.

RTP 11-23-2015 02:12 AM

If you want to launch a paysite or production and worried about the budget not being enough (regardless of the money you have or don't) - you prob shouldn't do it

:2 cents:

Matyko 11-23-2015 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by kamionsofor (Post 20602633)
Thanks for your answer RandyRandy! How much $ is recommended to start, whats your opinion? I dont think if I could double the price, but still would like to know.

If you're asking such questions on gfy than you should Not start any business in this industry.. :2 cents:

Spend a few hours/days to research this topic, and THAN ask questions. :pimp

Paul Markham 11-23-2015 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by kamionsofor (Post 20602579)
Hello everybody! What you guys think do 5000$ is enough or do I need more to make a membership site such as my favourite sexuallybroken(dot)com , with my own content that I'd shoot ?

$5000 is more than enough to start a paysite.

My advice, if you want to make money, is to place it on a horse. The odds are better. :1orglaugh

michael.kickass 11-23-2015 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20643927)
My advice, if you want to make money, is to place it on a horse.

Great advice. :thumbsup

Struggle4Bucks 11-23-2015 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20643927)
$5000 is more than enough to start a paysite.

Did you read the OP? He's not talking about buying 300 scenes for $300! He wants to start something specific...

3xmedia 11-23-2015 08:06 AM

$5K? I spent it on dinners and booze last week.

I don't run any pay sites but I would say you need to add a zero to that amount to make a decent one.


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