Trump Proves Megyn Kelly Wrong Tonight
 

Megyn Kelly was determined to make Trump look bad over Trump University (later renamed Trump Entrepreneur Initiative)

He told her that the program got a "D" grade from the Better Business Bureau only one time because they didn't turn in their info on time. And he plainly said that Rubio was lying about saying it was always a "D" and that it was always an "A" except for that one thing.

Megyn Kelly jumped in and said "No" that the last Better Business Bureau report gave it a "D" and that was in 2010.
Trump explained that was false and that the grade was later updated to "A".

She gave him a look of disbelief and tried to make him out to be lying.

Well...Trump went right out and posted the upgraded Better Business Bureau grade almost immediately after the debate.

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...47&oe=5752D9C5

Even if Trump doesn't win i hope at least the American people will realize the media is full on lying to them.

BBB is a scam itself. I am shocked that Trump did not set that liar straight.

Currently showing a no rating, i would prefer to verify these things myself.

So Drumpf says something on Twitter and posts a picture and you accept it as proof? LOL.

Well, here is the link to the page on BBB: The Trump Entrepreneur Initiative Review - TRAINING PROGRAMS in New York, NY - BBB Business Review - BBB serving Metropolitan New York, Long Island, and the Mid-Hudson Region

No rating.

In fact, it seems the last time the "university" (and I use that term loosely) had a rating it was a "D". It seems there are multiple news reports to back this up:
Is Trump University Flunking Out? - CBS News
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/20/ny...tion.html?_r=0

Then let's do some fact checking:
Trump’s Defense of His ‘University’
Fact-check: How did the Better Business Bureau rate Trump University? - CBS News
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...out-trump-uni/

This was a fake school, it was not accredited, and no one there was a teacher. Thousands of people have filed a lawsuit against Drumpf.

This was nothing more than scam.

Politifact says the following....

Drumpf?s claim is literally wrong and also ignores the university?s lower Better Business Bureau scores. We rate it False.

you can't come up with your own insults?


Trump 2016

BBB lol.

The BBB is a joke any businessman knows. It is toothless and bias.

Donald Trump did not answer one single question directly last night. He's the master of deflection.

What a joke ...

https://assets.documentcloud.org/doc...Initiative.pdf

http://online.wsj.com/public/resourc...ents/trump.pdf
PDF p. 7
Trump will get his day in court to testify under oath (if he chooses to) as to the falsity of these allegations of fraud.

What Robbie won't include in the attempt at vilification of his hero is the fact that Trump's scam university was later downgraded to a D- and has multimillion dollar lawsuits against it.

Great businessman.

Shall we compare his business acumen to the candidate you think best for the job?

What amazes me is that people believe what he says....

Robbie is a great example. Robbie is not dumb, is very smart, and can debate with the best of them. Yet for some reason he just took Trump's tweet and accepted it as fact even though every news site out there seems to say differently.

It's closed now.

Nothing gets past you! :)

I bet all the other real estate seminars aren't really "university's" either!

The name was for marketing perhaps? I don't think anyone with a sliver of intelligence believed the infomercials for it meant that they were going to Harvard.

P.S.: Back when Naughty America had "Naughty American University"...it wasn't really a school either. It was just marketing.
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

You know there is such thing as wayback right? Question directed to everyone.

Most I pull are a B.

Donald Trump and the vitamin company that went bust

MLM is legal for a huckster (until you get caught).

POTUS is not the CEO of a paper corporation that you can fold or bankrupt when things go wrong ...

I would assume that the Better Business Bureau themselves could straighten the whole thing out if they were of a mind to.

Trump posted the pic of the certificate with an "A" on it. If he's lying and photoshopped it then the BBB could easily say so.

The point is...Megyn Kelly and the Republicans are trying to insinuate that the business had a "D" rating as if that was all it ever had.
Trump explained that he failed to provide them with some of the necessary information they requested and it got them dropped to a "D" and once he got them the info it was raised to an "A".

Who knows? Maybe he's wrong?
But what Kelly and Rubio were told to do by the Republican establishment was to throw that out there.

The reason? To make Trump look like he's not a good businessman.

That tactic likely works on people who already are anti-Trump. Probably not so much on people who are pro-Trump.

Just the same as all the tactics used against Hillary work great with people who were never going to vote for her in the first place. And they don't work at all with her supporters.

I'll just step back and weigh it out: Trump runs hundreds of businesses and licenses his name to hundreds more. He has a civil case with "Trump University" that he refuses to settle and wants to go to court because he believes he can win.

Hillary is under FBI investigation and just had her employee who was in charge of her email server given immunity by the Dept. Of Justice because he pled the 5th and wouldn't testify.

You guys judge that for yourself.

BBB did give it an A prior to lawsuit.
Better Business Bureau: Trump Right on '''A''' Rating ? Mostly - NBC News

Then it went lower, with complaints. Then it went back up, last I can find is a B.
https://web.archive.org/web/20140202...-york-ny-97075

I'm not sure why wayback could not capture prior to 2011 though.

Point is, it had an A at some point. Very common for BBB rating to go down in ranking if complaints are not answered, which Trump mentioned in the debate. It went down and we ignored sending BBB the information which was corrected. But looks like after it was corrected it went to a B, not an A.

Who gives a shit really? For every business I start maybe 1 out of 10 makes it.

Standard & Poor's gave Lehman Brothers an "A" rating 6 days before they crashed - just saying

I don't get credit for calling you smart?

All of these are scams. You aren't going to learn enough from a seminar to became a real estate expert. In this case, they charged a lot of money, then tried to get them to buy into more classes, and promised support that never came. This was just really bad all around.

The name was for marketing only; I am guessing Trump wasn't involved at all other than showing up to get his picture taken a few times and make a few commercials.

This is common with a lot of Trump's businesses. He put his name on hotels in Florida and Mexico, seems to have had very little to do with them, and then takes a share of the profit. He does this with most of his business deals - he puts his name on something that he doesn't own.

But they weren't promising to teach anyone anything - I mean, other than how to fuck a porn star in the event they got lucky.

I don't have a dog in this fight either way, but this is an interesting article about Donald Trump and Joseph Weichselbaum, whose son owns freewebcams.com...

Trump Vouched For Cocaine Trafficker | The Smoking Gun

Like I said....nothing gets past you does it? lol

And yes Rochard...in the world of really, really big business (which is rarefied air that we will never breath)...people make a lot of money for doing nothing.

I have an acquaintance who is very wealthy. And he sits on the boards of several major companies. Matter of fact that is one of the requirements he has for doing business with people.
He asks for a seat on the board.

And what that entails is he goes to a board meeting once or twice a year for 3 to 4 days.

For doing that...he makes a LOT of money. And that money is just his "pocket change" money.

He showed me the boards he sits on and he makes over 10 million dollars a year for just showing up for a few days each year and voting. That's it.

And he's not famous like Trump. Trump can license his name and make mega fortunes. It's smart and easy money.

People on that level lead lives and make money in ways that are hard to understand for people who have never been on that level of success.

so you believe whatever the news says:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

turn it to golf this week. Does Trump own that course or just have his name on it?

and even so who cares, put my name on shit for ten million, i'm ok

Trump University shut down in 2010 and this was the last rating....


https://web.archive.org/web/20100420...york-ny-97075/

D-


What Trump tweeted was the listing of The Trump Entrepreneur Initiative, a new company that replaced his original Trump University.

Trump got slapped around hard last night. This is only 1 small part of the beating he took. By the end it was actually a debate because they stopped asking the D any questions

When all of the major news organizations (including Fox News) tell us that the last known rating for Trump University at the BBB was a "D".... In this case, yes, I do believe what all of the major news organizations say.

"The New York Department of Education sent Trump a letter in 2010, accusing the operation of misleading students and misuse of the word “university.” Soon thereafter, the operation was renamed the Trump Entrepreneur Initiative."
Trump University Was A Scam, Say Former Students

So looks like complaints started mounting, he didn't respond to BBB, then forced to change the name and built the D to an A by resolving complaints.

Classes sure don't look legit from the online articles available.

Trump is on Robbie's team, so everything he does is ok. If it was Obama or some liberal, 5 pages wouldn't be enough to tell everybody how much of a low life they were..

Complaint: We paid more than $40,000 for some real estate education and a one-year mentorship. Several months into the mentorship program, our mentor/coach stopped getting in touch with us. We later learned that he stopped calling and e-mailing because Trump University was not paying him like they were supposed to. Also the information taught by some individuals at those seminars was questionable from a legal standpoint and even questionable from a moral standpoint. Many services that they performed were not at all to the level of what they advertised. One of the easiest example is a $3000 "bus tour" was sold promising professionals of all of the real estate trades would be with us in the bus, when we in fact ended up with one single high-end residential broker who had no clue of what we were trying to achieve, i.e. buy distressed properties to rehab them. A total waste of time and money, when they actually also spent one full day pitching us other Trump products. We called the office and sent Trump University a letter via FedEx to request reimbursement. After several calls to the office, we were told that our letter had gone to their legal department and that we would hear back from them shortly. To this day, we have not heard back from anyone, and now all of the phone numbers that we have are disconnected. We cannot let $40,000 of our hard earned money go down the drain to some unscrupulous entity without wanting justice be done. if you desire, I could forward you a copy of the letter we sent to Trump University originally. Looking forward to hearing back from you, we thank you very much for the good services the BBB provides to the people.

Desired Settlement: We would like the full amount we paid reimbursed, plus our credit card interest paid since the date of the charges.

Business Response:

To Whom It May Concern,

Trump Initiative's ultimate goal is to provide our students with the tools needed for success. We have reviewed *** *********’s complaint requesting a refund. Based on the terms of the contract (please see attached) that *** ********* signed on 5/*/10 she is not eligible for a refund; it states that “You, the Buyer, may cancel this agreement without any penalty, at any time prior to midnight of the third business day after the date of this transaction.” In addition to the terms of *** *********’s contract upon review of her account we found nothing to substantiate or justify a refund.

All the correspondences we have logged in *** *********’s account prior to her one year contract expiring indicate that she was happy with her program, mentor, and the support she was receiving. In regards to the bus tour *** *********’s used as an example in her complaint, **** *******, a Program Director at the time updated *** *********’s account on 06/**/2010 at 12:40pm writing; “She called in today because she went on the bus tour this past weekend and wanted to tell me that it was great.” I have also submitted (please see attached) a copy of the evaluation form *** ********* provided to us after her 3 Day In-Field Mentorship were she gives high marks and very favorable feedback of her experience.

As part of our commitment to customer satisfaction and in an attempt to resolve this matter we recently contacted *** ********* to discuss her complaint. As a gesture of good will and in the hopes of bringing this issue to a close we offered to reactivate *** ********* account so she could download and enjoy the virtual versions of our live Real Investors Blueprint Workshop and four Advanced Retreats. We are awaiting her response.

Best Regards

Consumer Complaints for The Trump Entrepreneur Initiative - BBB serving Metropolitan New York, Long Island, and the Mid-Hudson Region

If anything, it sounds like Trump throws a shitload of business ideas at the wall to see what sticks.

That's exactly what he does. And there is really nothing wrong with that from a business standpoint. However, when you are running for president of the United States, every failure is just that - a failure. And Trump's failures are huge, costing him and others hundreds of millions of dollars, and costing people their jobs in the process.

Business failings are one thing, scamming people out of money is another.

The worst part of that debate was that being in the state where children were poisoned by the water mismanagement of the local government, there was not one mention from the candidates or moderators about it. They would rather have a dick measuring contest than talk about an issue affecting thousand of people directly nearby. But those vermin won't be voting for them anyway, so why bother?

too bad Trump didn't bring up Flint while talking about the relative size of his cock to his hands.

But Robbie thanks for focusing on the important shit, like trying to legitimize fraudulent business dealings against highly knowable facts which are out there, and have been out there for a long time.

Sorry, but you must have me confused with Megyn Kelly, Marco Rubio, and the Republican establishment who chose to make that an issue. Not me.

Sure...not you. Not the thread starter.

Starting a thread on a porn message board doesn't make me the person who tells the moderator and Marco Rubio what to do in the debate. It also doesn't make me the person who made this a big news story all day long on CNN, FNC, and MSNBC.

But hey...if you want to give me credit and say that I have the power to decide the agenda of the news cycle today...I'll take it! :) Thanks for that vote of confidence! :)