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2MuchMark 04-09-2016 02:13 PM

Paul Ryan will be the republican nominee
 
Paul Ryan will be the republican nominee.

Sorry Donald, Ted...

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Coup 04-09-2016 02:29 PM

Nah, Trump.
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ITraffic 04-09-2016 02:49 PM


2MuchMark 04-09-2016 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ITraffic (Post 20828051)

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2MuchMark 04-09-2016 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Coup (Post 20828009)

Nope... Ryan!



I predict a brokered convention with delegates picking Ryan over everyone. Watch Cruz and Trump go into shared meltdown mode.

ITraffic 04-09-2016 04:23 PM

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Coup 04-09-2016 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20828186)
Nope... Ryan!

Nah trump be dat nom tho

ITraffic 04-09-2016 04:40 PM

trump aint no two pump chump.

he's a ten pump trump.

crockett 04-09-2016 04:53 PM

Ryan has come along way since his run as VP. At this point, he's the least scary of Republicans but still I wouldn't trust him further than I could throw Trump.

CaptainHowdy 04-09-2016 05:03 PM

Not sure if serious ...

kane 04-09-2016 05:08 PM

I understand that the republican establishment hates Trump an they aren't fans of Cruz either, but they have to be smart enough to realize giving the nomination to someone who didn't even run would likely guarantee Hillary the win (or Bernie if he pulls off a miracle).

noshit 04-09-2016 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Coup (Post 20828009)

The RNC chair has a different idea:

http://i.imgur.com/QbnY4Qi.png

This thing is rigged to HIGH HELL.

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bronco67 04-09-2016 06:55 PM

They sure as fuck don't want Ted Cruz to bet he nominee.

The strategy is to help Ted Cruz take as many delegates away from Trump so it'll be an open convention. Once that happens, sneak Paul Ryan in. They can change the rules to nominate anyone they want, and they sure as fuck don't want Donald Trump or Ted Cruz. In the long list of sneaky, underhanded shit Republicans have done, this wouldn't even rank as slightly nefarious.

kane 04-09-2016 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20828330)
They sure as fuck don't want Ted Cruz to bet he nominee.

The strategy is to help Ted Cruz take as many delegates away from Trump so it'll be an open convention. Once that happens, sneak Paul Ryan in. They can change the rules to nominate anyone they want, and they sure as fuck don't want Donald Trump or Ted Cruz. In the long list of sneaky, underhanded shit Republicans have done, this wouldn't even rank as slightly nefarious. I can see why they would do it, as they watch Donald Trump unravel their façade of seeming to care about the poor or non-white voters -- which has already been failing miserably because they can't even fake compassion or empathy.

The problem with doing that is that it will likely cause Trump to run as an independent. if he does that it pretty much guarantees Hillary the win.

The only way they would do this is if they could get Trump to guarantee not to run as a third party independent.

noshit 04-09-2016 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 20828336)
The problem with doing that is that it will likely cause Trump to run as an independent. if he does that it pretty much guarantees Hillary the win.

The only way they would do this is if they could get Trump to guarantee not to run as a third party independent.

Nope.
If this rigged shit goes the way they want... Come November, The word is; To write Trump in and vote Democratic across the board.
Which will completely destroy the Republican Party.
And Destroy the Democrats as well.

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noshit 04-09-2016 07:20 PM

You don't just Rig·A·Ma·Role elections any-more. That shit is over. Too many are people are awake.
A MAJOR Cleansing is coming :2 cents:

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2MuchMark 04-09-2016 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 20828336)
The problem with doing that is that it will likely cause Trump to run as an independent. if he does that it pretty much guarantees Hillary the win.

I don't know about that....

I think Hillary is tough, and if she was up against Trump, I think she would win.

If Bernie faced-off against Trump, I am not convinced Bernie would win. He's nicer, smarter, cooler, better, but Trump is louder.

If Hillary or Bernie had to face-off against Cruz, I think it would be a close race. Cruz talks like a nut job, but I think deep down he's cool and calculating. He's also a great speaker, despite the fact that he speaks mostly garbage.

Paul Ryan on the other hand is probably the smartest of the entire bunch on the republican side. I think that Ryan is the GOP's best hope of winning the whitehouse, or at the very least, saving the republican party.

kane 04-09-2016 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20828390)
I don't know about that....

I think Hillary is tough, and if she was up against Trump, I think she would win.

If Bernie faced-off against Trump, I am not convinced Bernie would win. He's nicer, smarter, cooler, better, but Trump is louder.

If Hillary or Bernie had to face-off against Cruz, I think it would be a close race. Cruz talks like a nut job, but I think deep down he's cool and calculating. He's also a great speaker, despite the fact that he speaks mostly garbage.

Paul Ryan on the other hand is probably the smartest of the entire bunch on the republican side. I think that Ryan is the GOP's best hope of winning the whitehouse, or at the very least, saving the republican party.

Ryan may well be a better candidate than Cruz or Trump. The problem is if they screw Trump and Cruz and make him the nomination Trump will likely run as a third party candidate. That will cause a split in the republican vote and likely make it pretty easy for the democrat. If they could somehow keep Trump from running as a third party candidate it will help them to some degree, but it seems like about 35% of registered republicans are die hard Trump supporters. Who knows how they will react if he gets screwed out of the nomination. Without their support no republican candidate can win.

dyna mo 04-09-2016 08:47 PM

Doubtful.

Why would the GOP do that? Everything they've done up to now has been so wrong they've got themselves stuck with Trump and Cruz. There's nothing to think that they would do something that actually landed them a somewhat reasonable candidate to represent them. I predict further chaos, not less.

ITraffic 04-09-2016 08:52 PM

the rnc has stated they would prefer to write off this election rather than let trump win.

ilnjscb 04-09-2016 09:04 PM

You don't know republicans. They don't just call shit cake and eat it with glee. Ryan did not get a single vote. The party can't just steal the nomination and expect to win. Kasich, Cruz, and Trump would all go apeshit, and with good reason. Half the party would revolt. The nominee will be one of the three.

Axeman 04-09-2016 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 20828393)
Ryan may well be a better candidate than Cruz or Trump. The problem is if they screw Trump and Cruz and make him the nomination Trump will likely run as a third party candidate. That will cause a split in the republican vote and likely make it pretty easy for the democrat. If they could somehow keep Trump from running as a third party candidate it will help them to some degree, but it seems like about 35% of registered republicans are die hard Trump supporters. Who knows how they will react if he gets screwed out of the nomination. Without their support no republican candidate can win.

Not only that, but Cruz voters don't align very well with Ryan, who is a RINO. So its a very dangerous game the RNC will play if they do that route.

robfantasy 04-09-2016 09:38 PM

when will you realize its a 1 party system... its the establishment (dems/repubs) vs the outsider.

Relentless 04-09-2016 10:26 PM

Ryan has more power now than he would have as President. He is the fail safe controlling the spending. Whether Trump, Cruz, Bernie or Hillary win, the gop establishment is keeping Ryan where he is to constrain them.

Coup 04-09-2016 10:46 PM

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Yanks_Todd 04-09-2016 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 20828426)
You don't know republicans. They don't just call shit cake and eat it with glee. Ryan did not get a single vote. The party can't just steal the nomination and expect to win. Kasich, Cruz, and Trump would all go apeshit, and with good reason. Half the party would revolt. The nominee will be one of the three.

I agree with this mostly, except that I think Kasich is also out. They have lost the general already, they are now thinking damage control. If you run Trump you lose and honor the democratic process, if you run Cruz you lose and maintain your conservative and Christian mantras. Tee up 2020.

Their goal is to have a candidate next time who isn't a complete joke to the country or the world. Perhaps they should do a Presidential Apprentice??? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

ITraffic 04-09-2016 11:04 PM


poncabare 04-10-2016 08:06 AM

baffling why you would even care about another countries politics.

AdultKing 04-10-2016 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by poncabare (Post 20828840)
baffling why you would even care about another countries politics.

I think most of the world cares about who becomes President of the USA. Just sayin.

bronco67 04-10-2016 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20828405)
Doubtful.

Why would the GOP do that? Everything they've done up to now has been so wrong they've got themselves stuck with Trump and Cruz. There's nothing to think that they would do something that actually landed them a somewhat reasonable candidate to represent them. I predict further chaos, not less.

this is probably the safest bet.

Even if they knew the actions needed to fix this Trump/Cruz problem, they couldn't execute it properly -- because they're not capable of it. This is the bed they've made (with the help of conservative media).

To fix their overall party conundrum and make themselves more palatable to the changing demographics they'll need years (maybe a generation) of gradual change that is actually sincere. Trying to create the illusion of giving a shit during a four year period will not work. They actually seem worse now than when they had their "autopsy" after the 2012 election.

crockett 04-10-2016 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 20828393)
Ryan may well be a better candidate than Cruz or Trump. The problem is if they screw Trump and Cruz and make him the nomination Trump will likely run as a third party candidate. That will cause a split in the republican vote and likely make it pretty easy for the democrat. If they could somehow keep Trump from running as a third party candidate it will help them to some degree, but it seems like about 35% of registered republicans are die hard Trump supporters. Who knows how they will react if he gets screwed out of the nomination. Without their support no republican candidate can win.

Don't be so sure the DNC is busy fucking over Bernie as well. Despite him winning Wyoming yesterday hilly gets half the delegates and all the super delegates..

Despite loosing Hillary walks away with more delegates than Sanders. I imagine this election will have the lowest turn outs of any election in recent history because it's obvious both parties are ignoring the actual voters and it will result in many people not bothering to vote.

slapass 04-10-2016 09:55 AM

Come on, we all knew the Republicans couldn't win this time around. They mailed it in.

The good news is this will force them to really look at their platform. Guns and abortion are pretty narrow and leaves a lot of folks out of it. Add in the denier element and any reasonable person has a hard time voting for their candidates. it is time they revamped it a bit.

ITraffic 04-10-2016 10:08 AM

at least this election reveals how the game is rigged to prevent "an outbreak of democracy."

2MuchMark 04-10-2016 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by poncabare (Post 20828840)
baffling why you would even care about another countries politics.

I too am baffled.

LAJ 04-10-2016 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by poncabare (Post 20828840)
baffling why you would even care about another countries politics.

Because American politics are rammed down everyone's throat, and whomever wins 2016 will affect the rest of the world for better or for worse. :2 cents:

Robbie 04-10-2016 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20828390)
Paul Ryan on the other hand is probably the smartest of the entire bunch on the republican side. I think that Ryan is the GOP's best hope of winning the whitehouse, or at the very least, saving the republican party.

You certainly (as usual) have NO idea about what people in this country want.

Yes, the media (who work for the RNC and the DNC) are pushing Ryan to low-information people like you.

REALITY: He didn't even carry his home state for Romney in 2012. :(
He BARELY won re-election to the House in his latest run.

NOBODY is going to vote for Ryan no matter how hard the media tries to push that.

LAJ 04-10-2016 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20828957)
Don't be so sure the DNC is busy fucking over Bernie as well. Despite him winning Wyoming yesterday hilly gets half the delegates and all the super delegates..

Despite loosing Hillary walks away with more delegates than Sanders. I imagine this election will have the lowest turn outs of any election in recent history because it's obvious both parties are ignoring the actual voters and it will result in many people not bothering to vote.

Exactly. It's disgusting. I've all but lost faith in the process. In TX my vote won't matter anyway. If/when Bernie gets screwed out of the nomination I'm writing my cat in. He would do a better job than anyone else.

Getting closer and closer to being an expat of this country.

Robbie 04-10-2016 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20828906)
Even if they knew the actions needed to fix this Trump/Cruz problem

What's most telling is that they consider people voting for whom they want (Trump) as a "problem" that needs to be "fixed"

Lot of money at stake for all those establishment people. Some of those "expert" campaign advisers who Trump has made look useless earn MILLIONS of dollars for their bullshit advice that hasn't helped any of the candidates.

The establishment is being exposed like the emperor with no clothes. And they are fighting hard to stop that.

That's why they aren't lining up behind Trump and instead are trying to destroy their own front-runner.

They aren't even hiding it anymore...pure desperation by a bunch of greedy fuckers in the establishment who see their gravy train disappearing.

noshit 04-10-2016 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20829092)
What's most telling is that they consider people voting for whom they want (Trump) as a "problem" that needs to be "fixed"

Lot of money at stake for all those establishment people. Some of those "expert" campaign advisers who Trump has made look useless earn MILLIONS of dollars for their bullshit advice that hasn't helped any of the candidates.

The establishment is being exposed like the emperor with no clothes. And they are fighting hard to stop that.

That's why they aren't lining up behind Trump and instead are trying to destroy their own front-runner.

They aren't even hiding it anymore...pure desperation by a bunch of greedy fuckers in the establishment who see their gravy train disappearing.

:thumbsup Great Post..! :thumbsup

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ITraffic 04-10-2016 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20828906)
To fix their overall party conundrum and make themselves more palatable to the changing demographics they'll need years (maybe a generation) of gradual change that is actually sincere.

confirmed:

Republicans Admit That A Trump Or Cruz Win Will Destroy The GOP For A Generation


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