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Robbie 11-08-2016 11:33 PM
Next: President Obama Will Pardon Hillary
 
I've said it since the campaign began: If Hillary lost, Obama will pardon her.

Now WHY he would pardon her if she hasn't done anything wrong...lol

But I predict that Hillary will be receiving a full Presidential pardon. :)

RyuLion 11-09-2016 12:20 AM
Good thing both of us will continue to live a great life! :pimp:pimp

Joshua G 11-09-2016 12:25 AM
tough call. i thought so too. but obama has this thing about his legacy. he might throw hilary under the bus, rather than pardon her, & take that stain on his legacy.

he might not do it.

:2 cents:

Paul Markham 11-09-2016 01:04 AM
How can he pardon someone who hasn't been charged?

charlie g 11-09-2016 01:20 AM
Paul's right. I think that's why they have not brought charges against her yet. It's obvious she has broken many laws. Rudy will take over the direction of the investigation in January and that will be it for clinton.

onwebcam 11-09-2016 01:22 AM
He can't pardon her for everything.

onwebcam 11-09-2016 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by charlie g (Post 21285049)
Paul's right. I think that's why they have not brought charges against her yet. It's obvious she has broken many laws. Rudy will take over the direction of the investigation in January and that will be it for clinton.
It won't be Rudy he's already picked Trey Gowdy who wants to eat Hillary for lunch.

charlie g 11-09-2016 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 21285067)
It won't be Rudy he's already picked Trey Gowdy who wants to eat Hillary for lunch.
christ, she's in fucking trouble. that guy is smart as a whip and has no use for her.

Coup 11-09-2016 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 21285067)
he's already picked Trey Gowdy
Holy Shit... I hadn't heard this. She is fucked. Gowdy is a pitpull.

CarlosTheGaucho 11-09-2016 01:32 AM
Clinton will receive a full pardon for sure, knows too much on Obama and the whole circus to make their lives real tough if he wouldn't do it.

scarlettcontent 11-09-2016 02:32 AM
:thumbsup

j3rkules 11-09-2016 04:56 AM
Immigration info site for Canada crashed earlier this morning...

CaptainHowdy 11-09-2016 05:00 AM
I forgive her ...

Yanks_Todd 11-09-2016 06:41 AM
I think you are forgetting that she has not been charged, tried and convicted of anything. Due process Robbie. Wow

Barry-xlovecam 11-09-2016 07:02 AM
Why not? It will strip the Republican party of their whipping boy (girl) and with no diversions they can take full responsibility for the deeds to come.

Let's play hand grenades.

The smart money is short or on the sidelines while the chump money is long term or leveraged in debt. Guess who loses?

plaster 11-09-2016 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 21285784)
I forgive her ...
I'm still with her....

.... 4life

PR_Glen 11-09-2016 07:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 21284530)
I've said it since the campaign began: If Hillary lost, Obama will pardon her.

Now WHY he would pardon her if she hasn't done anything wrong...lol

But I predict that Hillary will be receiving a full Presidential pardon. :)
not much of a prediction. Do you forget what happened with Nixon? His crimes were pretty similar if not worse.

candyflip 11-09-2016 07:16 AM
Doesn't she have to be convicted before she can be pardoned.

Grapesoda 11-09-2016 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 21284803)
tough call. i thought so too. but obama has this thing about his legacy. he might throw hilary under the bus, rather than pardon her, & take that stain on his legacy.

he might not do it.

:2 cents:
I think history will not be so kind to Obama. :2 cents:

NatalieK 11-09-2016 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Coup (Post 21285100)
Holy Shit... I hadn't heard this. She is fucked. Gowdy is a pitpull.
How if she's done nothing wrong. The investigations continue and still nothing. It was a smoke screen for Trump to gain extra votes.

That's why he was like, Secretary Hillary just congratulated us, I her too :2 cents:


Besides, Trumps taxes may come to light some what more now & the other things, the visa with his wife, the snooping with the votes, he's still got to make jobs & build a wall while chucking illegals out and vetting people without creating racism through the country & world.

Coup 11-09-2016 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Yanks_Todd (Post 21286207)
I think you are forgetting that she has not been charged, tried and convicted of anything. Due process Robbie. Wow
Neither was Nixon

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pardon_of_Richard_Nixon

onwebcam 11-09-2016 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Coup (Post 21285100)
Holy Shit... I hadn't heard this. She is fucked. Gowdy is a pitpull.
I would imagine there's a lot of people around her making exit plans right now. :1orglaugh

tony286 11-09-2016 09:31 AM
I bet you dollars to donuts nothing happens to her. Did you hear Trump last night , it was a different guy. He said what he needed to tell angry white people to get their vote and it worked.
I see a lessening of all the promises. He isnt stupid.

onwebcam 11-09-2016 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 21286897)
I bet you dollars to donuts nothing happens to her. Did you hear Trump last night , it was a different guy. He said what he needed to tell angry white people to get their vote and it worked.
I see a lessening of all the promises. He isnt stupid.
Nope, she's going down. It may not be the emails most likely the foundation. Trey Gowdy will likely issue a warrant his first day in office. He's been seriously angry about being stonewalled during the hearings. It won't just be her either. Many around her are seriously considering leaving the country right now to avoid prosecution I guarantee you that.

Barry-xlovecam 11-09-2016 10:04 AM
Shhh Tony!

Let them enjoy it -- they (the Trumpsters) just got played big time :2 cents:

onwebcam 11-09-2016 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21287026)
Shhh Tony!

Let them enjoy it -- they (the Trumpsters) just got played big time :2 cents:
Seems you Democrats are the one's who got played. I can't flip the channel without seeing a talking head near tears.

crockett 11-09-2016 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21284959)
How can he pardon someone who hasn't been charged?
Robbie lives in fantasy land. He doesn't understand reality.. Hillary hasn't been convicted of a crime but she will receive a pardon. Makes no sense unless you listen to right wing radio..

Rochard 11-09-2016 10:06 AM
Pardon her for what? She's never been charged with a crime.

onwebcam 11-09-2016 10:12 AM
Trey Gowdy Says FBI Investigation Into Hillary Clinton's Emails Isn't Over

TheDynasty 11-09-2016 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by RyuLion (Post 21284779)
Good thing both of us will continue to live a great life! :pimp:pimp
:thumbsup

Sly 11-09-2016 10:27 AM
About pardons: Can President Bush pardon people who haven't even been charged with a crime?

Funny how this was an issue 8 years ago as well!

onwebcam 11-09-2016 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 21287098)
About pardons: Can President Bush pardon people who haven't even been charged with a crime?

Funny how this was an issue 8 years ago as well!
Obama can't blanket pardon her. ie, he can't say "I pardon Hillary of ALL things illegal" He can pardon her on a specific thing such as the emails. The choice has to be made as to what's the biggest issue to lessen the damage. Emails? Lying to congress? Foundation? Benghazi?

Robbie 11-09-2016 01:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21284959)
How can he pardon someone who hasn't been charged?
Quote:
Originally Posted by charlie g (Post 21285049)
Paul's right. I think that's why they have not brought charges against her yet. It's obvious she has broken many laws. Rudy will take over the direction of the investigation in January and that will be it for clinton.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yanks_Todd (Post 21286207)
I think you are forgetting that she has not been charged, tried and convicted of anything. Due process Robbie. Wow
Quote:
Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 21286327)
Doesn't she have to be convicted before she can be pardoned.
Quote:
Originally Posted by crockett (Post 21287041)
Robbie lives in fantasy land. He doesn't understand reality.. Hillary hasn't been convicted of a crime but she will receive a pardon. Makes no sense unless you listen to right wing radio..
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21287044)
Pardon her for what? She's never been charged with a crime.
Quote:
Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 21287113)
Obama can't blanket pardon her. ie, he can't say "I pardon Hillary of ALL things illegal" He can pardon her on a specific thing such as the emails. The choice has to be made as to what's the biggest issue to lessen the damage. Emails? Lying to congress? Foundation? Benghazi?

The same way that President Ford pardoned Richard Nixon.

It's not the same as a President releasing people from prison and pardoning them.
In this case President Obama will simply do what Ford did...give Hillary a full presidential pardon for her "involvement".

READ what Sly posted: Can President Bush pardon people who haven't even been charged with a crime?

And of course if any of you would simply use Google you could have found it out for yourselves that the President can indeed issue a sweeping pardon. :)

crockett 11-09-2016 01:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 21287578)
The same way that President Ford pardoned Richard Nixon.

It's not the same as a President releasing people from prison and pardoning them.
In this case President Obama will simply do what Ford did...give Hillary a full presidential pardon for her "involvement".

READ what Sly posted: Can President Bush pardon people who haven't even been charged with a crime?

And of course if any of you would simply use Google you could have found it out for yourselves that the President can indeed issue a sweeping pardon. :)
Nixion was impeached for what he did.. it's not even close to the same.. At best Obama might be able to grant her immunity from prosecution but I dunno if he can actually do that. I'd imagine the DOJ would only be able to offer that..

Regardless, Trump isn't going to push for any of that.. It's not his say anyway, it's the DOJ's. You listen to too much right wing bat radio.

JFK 11-09-2016 01:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21284959)
How can he pardon someone who hasn't been charged?
minor detail, please dont derail the conversation !:warning :upsidedow

onwebcam 11-09-2016 01:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 21287578)
The same way that President Ford pardoned Richard Nixon.

It's not the same as a President releasing people from prison and pardoning them.
In this case President Obama will simply do what Ford did...give Hillary a full presidential pardon for her "involvement".

READ what Sly posted: Can President Bush pardon people who haven't even been charged with a crime?

And of course if any of you would simply use Google you could have found it out for yourselves that the President can indeed issue a sweeping pardon. :)
Once again he would have to sit down with Hillary and say "Give me a list of all things I need to pardon you for." That's a long list. But I will say that since his entire Presidential legacy will be reduced to nothing he has nothing to lose by doing that. You could tell he was choked up in his speech today knowing this.

Robbie 11-09-2016 01:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by crockett (Post 21287632)
Nixion was impeached for what he did.. it's not even close to the same.. At best Obama might be able to grant her immunity from prosecution but I dunno if he can actually do that. I'd imagine the DOJ would only be able to offer that..

Regardless, Trump isn't going to push for any of that.. It's not his say anyway, it's the DOJ's. You listen to too much right wing bat radio.
Nixon was NEVER impeached. Jesus crockett...I know you don't have much knowledge of history...but at least use Google. Nixon resigned BEFORE Congress could impeach him. YES...the Congress definitely would have...but right now there are only TWO President's in history who have ever been impeached: Pres. Andrew Johnson AND...Bill Clinton.

Quote:
Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 21287755)
Once again he would have to sit down with Hillary and say "Give me a list of things I need to pardon you for." That's a long list. But I will say that since his entire Presidential legacy will be reduced to nothing he has nothing to lose by doing that.
Once again...READ and use Google. A President can give a sweeping preemptive pardon. Just like Ford did for Nixon.
Does anybody realize that you are on the internet and you can simply google this stuff up before posting? :)

crockett 11-09-2016 01:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 21287791)
Nixon was NEVER impeached. Jesus crockett...I know you don't have much knowledge of history...but at least use Google. Nixon resigned BEFORE Congress could impeach him. YES...the Congress definitely would have...but right now there are only TWO President's in history who have ever been impeached: Pres. Andrew Johnson AND...Bill Clinton.


Once again...READ and use Google. A President can give a sweeping preemptive pardon. Just like Ford did for Nixon.
Does anybody realize that you are on the internet and you can simply google this stuff up before posting? :)
Give me a break Robbie.. that's like claiming you were never fired because you quit before they handed you the papers. 3 articles of impeachment were approved by the house but he "quit" before the Senate was able to vote on it.

Sure thing sweetheart, he just decided to quit out of the blue.. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Robbie 11-09-2016 02:03 PM
Crockett: https://google.com

Use it. Thanks.

Robbie 11-09-2016 02:07 PM
Also crockett...I never said anything about Nixon not being "guilty".

I said Obama would pardon Hillary. You stupidly stated that Obama couldn't pardon Hillary because she isn't convicted of anything.

Now you're doing your usual song and dance of trying to run a thread off the rails.

I believe Obama will pardon Hillary. Or at the very least buddy up to Trump and talk him out of going after her.

If you think otherwise...then fine. But you are factually incorrect on your stupid statement about him not being able to do it.


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