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Matt 26z 10-24-2017 08:07 PM

Shocking news reveals Hillary Clinton paid for Russia dossier
 
Mainstream news. Not conspiracy theory. Hillary paid foreign agents to interfere in the US election......



The Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee helped fund research that resulted in a now-famous dossier containing allegations about President Trump?s connections to Russia and possible coordination between his campaign and the Kremlin, people familiar with the matter said.

Marc E. Elias, a lawyer representing the Clinton campaign and the DNC, retained Fusion GPS, a Washington firm, to conduct the research.

After that, Fusion GPS hired dossier author Christopher Steele, a former British intelligence officer with ties to the FBI and the U.S. intelligence community, according to those people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

Elias and his law firm, Perkins Coie, retained the company in April 2016 on behalf of the Clinton campaign and the DNC. Before that agreement, Fusion GPS?s research into Trump was funded by an unknown Republican client during the GOP primary.

The Clinton campaign and the DNC, through the law firm, continued to fund Fusion GPS?s research through the end of October 2016, days before Election Day.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.e0cd537efddc

mineistaken 10-24-2017 08:16 PM

As crooked as it gets.

2MuchMark 10-24-2017 08:17 PM

Quote:

Elias and his law firm, Perkins Coie, retained the company in April 2016 on behalf of the Clinton campaign and the DNC. Before that agreement, Fusion GPS’s research into Trump was funded by an unknown Republican client during the GOP primary.
It looks like republicans found out something they didn't want to know about Trump (hint:Pee!), and dropped it before the DNC picked it up.

You guy's going to prison.

mineistaken 10-24-2017 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22048981)
It looks like republicans found out something they didn't want to know about Trump (hint:Pee!), and dropped it before the DNC picked it up.

You guy's going to prison.

Nice assumption (you realize that said republican paid in order to get dirt, so yeah, he dropped it after he got what he wanted) trying to deflect

Matt 26z 10-24-2017 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 22048979)
As crooked as it gets.

I don't think anyone expected this.

And now it looks like John Podesta will end up in some trouble for working with Manafort and Russia.

Zero evidence supporting Trump worked with Russia. And now actual factual evidence that Hillary and her people are the guilty ones.

2MuchMark 10-24-2017 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 22048983)
Nice assumption (you realize that said republican paid in order to get dirt, so yeah, he dropped it after he got what he wanted) trying to deflect

Lol.

From
Report: Clinton campaign, DNC helped fund dossier research - CNNPolitics

Quote:

CNN previously reported Fusion GPS's anti-Trump research was initially funded by anti-Trump Republicans during the GOP primaries, and Democrats began paying the research firm later on, after Trump became the presumptive nominee. The Washington Post reports that Fusion GPS hired Steele after the Democratic funding began and the general election picture grew clearer.
You should also read Mueller's team met with Russia dossier author - CNNPolitics

Prison, baby!

mineistaken 10-24-2017 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22048989)
Lol.

From
Report: Clinton campaign, DNC helped fund dossier research - CNNPolitics



You should also read Mueller's team met with Russia dossier author - CNNPolitics

This is the water.
And this is the well.
Drink full and descend.
The horse is the white of the eyes and dark within.

Huh? I did not deny that anti trump republican may have ordered it first.

I laughed at your statement that said republicans dropped the order as soon as they "found out what they did not like". You realize that said republicans would have loved to find "what they did not like", not the other way around?

Anti trump republicans: lets hire investigator to find dirt on Trump.
Investigator: hey, I found what you were looking for - dirt on trump.
Anti Trump republican: oh, we do not like dirt on Trump, lets drop the order.

:1orglaugh

Matt 26z 10-24-2017 08:30 PM

Hillary's press secretary says the firm contacted the Hillary campaign saying they had interesting information. Hillary paid for it.

(Then of course it leaked to Buzzfeed.... put one and one together with that)

onwebcam 10-24-2017 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22048981)
It looks like republicans found out something they didn't want to know about Trump (hint:Pee!), and dropped it before the DNC picked it up.

You guy's going to prison.

They figured out the company/report was a sham. Hillary and co didn't care. It will come out that McCain was in on the first round of funding. He was the first Republican Senator trying to sell it.

beerptrol 10-24-2017 08:43 PM

The guy who did the research has more credibility than chump, Not to mentions things have been independently verified to be true in that report

JuicyBunny 10-24-2017 08:53 PM

Bad week for Billary now that Congress also investigating Uranium One deal where FBI found that bribes were paid, in the millions to a certain.... No conspiracy theories from FBI.

BaldBastard 10-24-2017 08:54 PM

Even if Hillary paid for it from her pocket money I can't see what the issue would be, Fusion GPS is a private company, not a foreign Government.

What's always has mattered is the content of the dossier, which basically says team Trump was directly working with the Russian Government.

onwebcam 10-24-2017 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beerptrol (Post 22049009)
The guy who did the research has more credibility than chump, Not to mentions things have been independently verified to be true in that report

So much credibility that he went into hiding.

So what you're saying is, if the story reflects your beliefs you take the entire story as truth. If it doesn't reflect your beliefs the entire story is false..

No one has ever claimed the entire "intelligence report" was false. What they did and what anyone with half a brain would do is take factual information and toss in some headline grabbing false. All with the hopes of ruining Trumps election bid. When that didn't work they tossed their mole Manafort under the bus. Next they will throw Obama under the bus. And/or take us all down with them.

tony286 10-24-2017 09:05 PM

So The Washington Post is fake news til you see something you like? Thats how it works. lol Newsflash Hilary isn't President .

onwebcam 10-24-2017 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 22049031)
So The Washington Post is fake news til you see something you like? Thats how it works. lol Newsflash Hilary isn't President .

They are forced to report on it. Do you still not understand how this works?

Quick rundown.

MSM does no research. They only read lines they are fed. If their puppeteer doesn't give them the lines or if they try to stray away from the flock then they no longer have a job.

Alt media by the thousands maybe even millions are beating the pavement and web doing actual research. In turn scooping MSM in some cases by years because they refuse to report on it. Their refusal leads people like you to believe anything they don't tell you is "conspiracy theory" that is until they are forced to report on it. Which is what we see here.

Again this story isn't new. I've talked about this right here on this forum... And likely called a "nutter" by people like yourself at the time.

RedFred 10-24-2017 09:42 PM

McCain: I like Presidents who weren't pissed on by underage hookers.

onwebcam 10-24-2017 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 22049041)
McCain: I like Presidents who weren't pissed on by underage hookers.

Shortly after the presidential election, Senator John McCain, who had been informed about the alleged links between Kremlin and Trump, met with former British ambassador to Moscow Sir Andrew Wood. Wood confirmed the existence of the dossier and vouched for Steele's "professionalism and integrity".[17] McCain obtained the dossier from David J. Kramer and took it directly to FBI director James Comey on December 9, 2016.[15][14]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald...Russia_dossier

hmmm. How much you want to bet part of that story isn't true? Who do you think the wealthy Republican was that first funded it? Another Presidential contender perhaps? One who seems as hell bent on getting at Trump as the other losers?

RedFred 10-24-2017 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22049043)
Shortly after the presidential election, Senator John McCain, who had been informed about the alleged links between Kremlin and Trump, met with former British ambassador to Moscow Sir Andrew Wood. Wood confirmed the existence of the dossier and vouched for Steele's "professionalism and integrity".[17] McCain obtained the dossier from David J. Kramer and took it directly to FBI director James Comey on December 9, 2016.[15][14]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald...Russia_dossier

https://i.giphy.com/media/ToMjGpAee2...9K8/giphy.webp

Diomed 10-24-2017 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 22049041)
McCain: I like Presidents who weren't pissed on by underage hookers.

Come on.. This is pathetic.

Mark,

You did get owned by old boys reply above explaining that failed logic of yours.

Please guys (on both sides) just start making some concessions about shit instead of appearing pathetic by constantly agreeing with your team.

As per the Washington Post fake news irony comment.. Liberals only accept news from their "trusted" outlets.. The guy is showing you evidence from your preferred mouth piece. Now your trying to dismiss it?

RedFred 10-24-2017 10:03 PM

TRUMP AND COMEY TALKED RUSSIAN 'HOOKERS' AND 'GOLDEN SHOWER' SCANDAL


https://pics.me.me/trump-urine-repub...s-11613882.png

BaldBastard 10-24-2017 10:04 PM

Clinton campaign, DNC helped fund research that led to salacious Trump dossier | Fox News

DNC "helped" fund
helped.. that's an interesting way of putting it..
--
"It also wasn?t known who in those organizations knew about the roles of both Steele and Fusion GPS"

Interesting Choice of words
--

"Meanwhile, Glenn Simpson, the Fusion GPS founder, already gave a 10-hour interview to the Senate Judiciary Committee."

So ten hours of nothing burgers, 10 hours?.. that would be considered torture wouldn't it??
--

"But let?s be clear, there is a serious federal investigation into the Trump campaign?s ties to Russia, and the American public deserves to know what happened.?

Hence we have Mueller

If one thing in the said Dossier was proved to be true, and I believe there's been several, wouldn't the person who arranged it be hailed as a national hero?

Rochard 10-24-2017 10:05 PM

Both sides do opposition research. Nothing illegal about it at all, nothing wrong with it at all. In fact, I thought was already well known as fact - the DNC / Hillary Campaign was first to order up and pay for the research, and then once it uncovered what it did the FBI was called in.

Once again the Republican party is taking a single fact and trying to put a negative spin on it, implying it was illegal when it wasn't.

But now that we have this information, we should investigate if Hillary Clinton did anything illegal here. Let's investigate. In the process we'll have to investigate every aspect of the dossier to see how much of it is true. Wasn't it thirty pages long? Whew. That will be a lot of investigating to do. I'm not sure about anyone else but I am really interested to know if there was any truth to Trump pissing on hookers in a Moscow hotel room. I will also be interested to know if the Russians have any blackmail material on Trump.

If the Republican party wants to put this front and center, let's put it front and center. Let's have the dirty details of this dossier front page news for the next ten months.

BaldBastard 10-24-2017 10:25 PM

Even if the piss tapes came to light I highly doubt Trump would lose a single vote, that's sort of been proved in the past month with Trumps reaction to current events.

So who would it effect? who does not want more sanctions placed on them and who is up for election next year?

Mmm ponder on that..

Rochard 10-24-2017 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22049077)
Even if the piss tapes came to light I highly doubt Drumpf would lose a single vote, that's sort of been proved in the past month with Trumps reaction to current events.

So who would it effect? who does not want more sanctions placed on them and who is up for election next year?

Mmm ponder on that..

I disagree. Republicans are getting tired of this. Another one dropped today, and had some verbal vomit today.

NewNick 10-24-2017 10:31 PM

Again I find myself looking at the date of the OP ?

Why are you fighting the election again ?

Why is the base getting fed infos on Hillary to get them all riled ?

Hillary lost ?

onwebcam 10-24-2017 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22049059)

"But let’s be clear, there is a serious federal investigation into the Trump campaign’s ties to Russia, and the American public deserves to know what happened.”

Hence we have Mueller

If one thing in the said Dossier was proved to be true, and I believe there's been several, wouldn't the person who arranged it be hailed as a national hero?

You think he's going after Trump. What he's really doing is an entirely different thing. He's exonerating the sitting President and then going after the real perps. One of which has tarnished even his own reputation.. It's the only logical course. If he takes down a bunch of Democrats with an entire Democratic staff then how are you going to complain about it?

Why would he be a national hero for compiling information freely available to anyone? Pretty much everything in it can be found online. Then he just tossed in some BS and made it look like he actually did something more than that so he could earn his paycheck.

Rochard 10-24-2017 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22049083)
You think he's going after Drumpf. What he's really doing is an entirely different thing. He's exonerating the sitting President and then going after the real perps. One of which has tarnished even his own reputation.. It's the only logical course. If he takes down a bunch of Democrats with an entire Democratic staff then how are you going to complain about it?

Why would he be a national hero for compiling information freely available to anyone? Pretty much everything in it can be found online. Then he just tossed in some BS and made it look like he actually did something more than that so he could earn his paycheck.

So far the only investigating into Democrats involves Podesta Group. This seems to be routine. This company is owned by Tony Podesta, the brother of Hillary campaign chairman John Podesta. The work they did for Ukraine involved creating closer relations between Ukraine and Europe, which was a goal of the US government. There is really nothing illegal about this at all.

This seems to be tied into Manafort. However, these two items seems to be completely different. Manafort worked for the former President, which was more or less supported and funded by Moscow. The work the Podesta Group did was unrelated, and for a different Ukrainian government - this was a pro US and pro Europe Ukrainian government.

But by all means let's investigate this until we know exactly what happened. Let's continue investigating this no matter where it leads, and let's pull every string.

BaldBastard 10-24-2017 10:49 PM

What's VERY important today and something every American needs to know is that Trump got Multiple standing ovations, forget everything else going on, or details about anything.. Multiple standing ovations to dear leader was the order of the day!

Donny will sleep well until he watches Foxnews in the morning.... clap clap

Major (Tom) 10-24-2017 11:15 PM

Nothing will happen to trump and the probability of a second term increase in likihood everyday. I?m at the point the only reason im voting next election is to see the butt hurt on here. Other than that i wouldnt care if barbara streisand was our next president

sixone 10-25-2017 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 22048985)
I don't think anyone expected this.

And now it looks like John Podesta will end up in some trouble for working with Manafort and Russia.

Zero evidence supporting Trump worked with Russia. And now actual factual evidence that Hillary and her people are the guilty ones.

The mental gymnastics you must have to jump through on a daily basis :1orglaugh

onwebcam 10-25-2017 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22049087)
So far the only investigating into Democrats involves Podesta Group. This seems to be routine. This company is owned by Tony Podesta, the brother of Hillary campaign chairman John Podesta. The work they did for Ukraine involved creating closer relations between Ukraine and Europe, which was a goal of the US government. There is really nothing illegal about this at all.

This seems to be tied into Manafort. However, these two items seems to be completely different. Manafort worked for the former President, which was more or less supported and funded by Moscow. The work the Podesta Group did was unrelated, and for a different Ukrainian government - this was a pro US and pro Europe Ukrainian government.

But by all means let's investigate this until we know exactly what happened. Let's continue investigating this no matter where it leads, and let's pull every string.

Wrong as usual. Manafort's job was to mold a pro-Russia candidate/party for US consumption. Podesta Group and the other "PR Firm" handled the payoffs here in the US.

GFED 10-25-2017 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 22048997)
Hillary's press secretary says the firm contacted the Hillary campaign saying they had interesting information. Hillary paid for it.

(Then of course it leaked to Buzzfeed.... put one and one together with that)

Libbies can't do math. It's oppressive.

Paul Markham 10-25-2017 07:02 AM

American elections are bought and paid for by the people who ruined the world economy. And you small minded trolls are worried that some of them might be from overseas.

https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php

https://www.opensecrets.org/overview/topindivs.php

https://www.opensecrets.org/outsides...umm.php?disp=D

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...c-donors-2016/

A useful tool to find who is buying in your area. https://www.followthemoney.org/?gcli... AEgJE5fD_BwE

You have given away your power.

crockett 10-25-2017 07:11 AM

This was long ago known, why just now try to make a issue out of it like it was a conspiracy theory?

It's standard practice for opponents to go after info like this. Trump did it to Hillary as well as the RNC..

The difference is lots of dirt was found on Trump but not on Hillary who has been publicly vetted for the last 30 years.

It was known when the dossier was leaked that the DNC and obviously Hillary's campaign paid for it.

Meanwhile much of the info has been verified so now you try to make it a conspiracy theory.. Try using that critical thinking to fix your brain OP..

onwebcam 10-25-2017 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22049419)
This was long ago known, why just now try to make a issue out of it like it was a conspiracy theory?

It's standard practice for opponents to go after info like this. Trump did it to Hillary as well as the RNC..

The difference is lots of dirt was found on Trump but not on Hillary who has been publicly vetted for the last 30 years.

It was known when the dossier was leaked that the DNC and obviously Hillary's campaign paid for it.

Meanwhile much of the info has been verified so now you try to make it a conspiracy theory.. Try using that critical thinking to fix your brain OP..

Before it was "conspiracy theory" because MMS want talking about it other than calling Trump a kook for saying that it was the Adams who did it

Rochard 10-25-2017 08:36 AM

In fact.... Didn't this all start with the Republican party funding this?

Hannes 10-25-2017 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 22048979)
As crooked as it gets.

I try stay neutral on the political stuff, but I'm glad Clinton is being exposed.... want to hear what CNN( Clinton news network) has to say about this.

PR_Glen 10-25-2017 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22049033)
They are forced to report on it. Do you still not understand how this works?

Quick rundown.

MSM does no research. They only read lines they are fed. If their puppeteer doesn't give them the lines or if they try to stray away from the flock then they no longer have a job.

Alt media by the thousands maybe even millions are beating the pavement and web doing actual research. In turn scooping MSM in some cases by years because they refuse to report on it. Their refusal leads people like you to believe anything they don't tell you is "conspiracy theory" that is until they are forced to report on it. Which is what we see here.

Again this story isn't new. I've talked about this right here on this forum... And likely called a "nutter" by people like yourself at the time.

You are fuckin delusional if you think your basement blog sites do research compared to actual news sites... for fucks sakes even fox backs up their stories with research.

just because you want them to be true doesn't make it so. Time to get real, your fantasies can't be good for your private life. Unless you don't want people to take you seriously ever again that is. Political views aside this sounds insane...

Rochard 10-25-2017 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 22049575)
for fucks sakes even fox backs up their stories with research.

No, they don't. They featured someone they thought was a highly decorated Navy Seal multiple times and never bothered to check him out at all.

C H R I S 10-25-2017 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 22049575)
You are fuckin delusional if you think your basement blog sites do research compared to actual news sites... for fucks sakes even fox backs up their stories with research.

just because you want them to be true doesn't make it so. Time to get real, your fantasies can't be good for your private life. Unless you don't want people to take you seriously ever again that is. Political views aside this sounds insane...

Nobody takes OP seriously, ever. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh


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