Class action lawsuit against google?
 

I think google has a 10 year plan to eradicate porn. They have been slowly "mainstreaming" words and phrases so that no porn appears even on popular terms like sex and porn. This list is rapidly expanding. Why are they doing this?

> can't monetize porn with adwords
> send traffic to youtube, google books, and websites using adsense
> puritanical assholes?

Google is a virtual monopoly so this is essentially censorship and an unfair business practice. It's not an algorithmic thing, it's targeted specifically at porn related keywords.

I feel like there should be some sort of class action lawsuit before most of us are out of a job.

ya, good luck with that.. what's the saying adapt or die? :1orglaugh

I once took on Google... I didn't win.

Looks like 90% of organic adult traffic is shifted towards big porn tubes. The pie left is so little for the rest of adult websites.

Of course, not to mention so many keywords that are no longer showing adult results. I have a very big database of adult keywords collected, since I work for many years in the industry.

Now when I check some of them (big keys) it shows fully non adult. And this is not about English only, it's same in other countries as well (Germany, Italy etc.)

This shift started for about 6 months, so I think it's here to stay. We must remember that Google is here to make more profits, user's experience is on 2d place. Bing is light years away in market share.

Maybe it's time for surfers to realize Google is no longer relevant for adult searches. Unless there are big tubes in first searches, you will get some circle jerk content which is from same tubes (or redirection to them).

I search for amateur porn and what do I get on first page? Twitter page which is a pure spam one.

AMATEUR PORN (@WoWSwingers) | Twitter
https://twitter.com/wowswingers

There are many other results complete junk. So as a surfer, you have 3 options: go straight to tubes and search within it OR waste a lot of time searching through forest OR use different search engine.

nobody forces users to use google...you can hardly have a monopoly on a voluntary free service...it is their platform....just like facebook and twitter do not allow porn...

google owes you nothing as far as search results go...I have no doubt that organic ranking for porn is being blocked and that they want money...its just that you have no grounds to sue them...

yeah it sucks, and its gloomy, but there is always mainstream

Yeah, only that if no other competitor is on the market, what then? You are still free to switch, but to what? Bing is still here because of Microsoft's power, otherwise we would see just Google.

There is an illusion of choice, but in fact, they have become so big that it is impossible to create a competitor. Check the ISPs in USA as another example.

Tell me, if I created a choice to Google's SE, how would you know about it? It needs huge investment in marketing and people shifting from G, which takes a shitload of time. You think Google would stay still and do nothing about it?

Things were more balanced when Yahoo had a good share of market. Don't tell me Google's results are great nowadays, because they are not. Google grows every year in revenue so much. I wonder how, money doubled in market while they also have FB as competitor? No, they just swallowed more smaller players on market by promoting aggressively their own products.

Its been about 4-5 years and the results are making less and less sense

That might be a good thing because google is giving all the results to tubes anyway.

:2 cents:

Lobby to make them a regulated public utitlity. Long shot.
All these sites are really bad. Twitter, Facebook, Tmblr...it's a clusterfuck.

Google giveth and Google taketh away

Let chaos entwine on defenseless soil
Remove errors of man and sweep all the weakening kind
Bygone are tolerance and presence of grace
Scavengers are set out to cleanse the human filth parade

I just tested Google. I typed "Porn videos" into Google and got nothing but porn video sites. So what are you complaining about?

There is a thing called "abuse of monopoly". When you have tons of money then you can screw your competition very easily and as final result nobody can compete versus you.

They complain how most of keywords are occupied by top 10 tube sites.

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So just build a mainstream site and drive that back to your porn site. You need to adapt

I just did a search on one of my sites and its the girls name. Her site lists at number 14. Below the tubes. some tubes repeated and also face book for the name backwards.

Well Google is a mirror of US society - going in the wrong direction :)

Oddly in Yahoo her site comes up as number 3 below 1 tube. her own twitter and images.

Keep in mind Paul is senior citizen and he require different type of explaining :1orglaugh

So Google isn't blocking porn sites. They just delivering surfers to the sites they like the most. What's wrong with that from Google and the Surfer's point of view?

It wasn't society who put up 1,000s of tubes sites and made them user-friendly. That was the porn society.

So please explain it to us all.

Google will always deliver the user to the most popular sites. Those are no longer paid sites. It's Google responding to the needs of its surfers.

Do they care if those are paid for or free porn sites? No. They don't earn from porn so no need to promote paid. Should Google cut out all porn searches, surfers will move to Yahoo or Bing who will promote porn tubes.

If you have another explanation please do so.

Are you fucking high?

Perfect10 tried.

Read all about it here: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2007/0...right-showdown

Because they sing their own praise that they deliver the best organic search results.


So how can a tube with a name 1 time to 3 times and no text, No real connection have a top 10 ranking. yet a site with. Domain, Keywords, Text and actually about the topic rank off the top 10.

Maybe it goes back to the old days of companies paying behind the doors for the listings. Kind of like the biggest mailers used to do.

Because the priority of behavioral factors (bounce rate, dwell time and many etc.)

You can have a good domain, keywords, relevant text, but if users stay a little time on your site or after viewing one page users go away, google will lower your site in the serp.

Yes I know that and have been saying it for a long time.. Time on site is now the biggest factor for top listings.

relevance has nothing to do with it now.

Not even Wikipedia shows up as much as it used to.

What's the point of Google then? If it delivers only 4-5 tube sites in top 10 and that is where 90% of search traffic is.

It's like I am searching to buy something and all I get in Google is Amazon. What's the point in Google then?

For example, I searched yesterday for a specific pro adult video. Guess what, on first page there were 4 websites with absolutely same content/design which clearly appeared from same owner. Ah and yes, it still wasn't what I was looking for.

Titles were same. Tell me, what benefited me? Do I have the time to search endlessly in page 2, page 3 etc to find a good source? Not to mention page 2, page 3 were filled with unrelated results and mainstream sites.

Google has come to a point, at least in adult, where there is no benefit to use it. Now I go straight to tubes/forums for specific niche content, because Google is shit.

Take a look at what Google genius shows on page 2 for "fuck on the beach videos":

https://imgur.com/a/ZVFdy

Amazon, music lyrics etc.. Paul Markham, tell me how Google knows best

Yikes, seems they got owned in every court case which they were running -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect_10

Dream on ...

By doing this shit, Google is cutting smaller players or cut the new ones that may come. So we are left with the big tubes, CJ tubes that have power to buy traffic and some between.

Sure, surfers love the tubes. But is that good for the industry? All the power in the hands of a few? If xhamster, xvideos will be bought by MindGeek, what will be left?

If stats are true, Google gave even a bigger push of traffic in September to pornhub. Maybe they paid to Google for top spots, who knows.

https://imgur.com/a/a5eC4

No, read below.

Obviously, Google doesn't care as much about all your manufactured add-ons and cares more about the users. They see sites where the users stay for a lot longer and push them.

You are the ones who have it wrong. Make your tours more interesting to get more traffic.

People are no longer looking to pay for porn. Welcome to 2018.

I think I covered that in my previous post.

It's not Google's job to keep the industry going, surfers want free porn and Google delivers it to them.

Stop shouting at clouds.

Surfers love tubes. You kind of said it all there. It is Google's job to look after the surfer.

September is about when the shift happened so maybe that's why Pornhub got the boost.

Bottom line: If you rely mostly on Google traffic for porn traffic you are fucked like a $2 whore.

part of the point your missing there though Paul is that G is NOT looking after the surfer if they dont even deliver relevant results.

There are a lot of times I will search a porn girls name and the top sites when I click dont even have the name on the page. How I land there I have no idea. Why G would do that I have no idea other than because they could some how be getting paid for it.

Coudln't agree more.

Well porn has taken the path of mainstream monopolies. A few big players that dictate the market. The choice will be just an illusion. Improvements and innovations will be slow, as there is no competition left. Americans have slow internet connections because they have no alternative. That will happen the same in all rest.

Surfers love torrents too, but they've been demoted pretty much by Google. There are many other examples of Google acting on purpose, regardless of how much users loved it.

What if tomorrow Google blasts all porn because they don't like it? Will the user satisfaction still be met? They have already removed shitload of pure adult keywords.

Example: search for "black man sex with a white woman" and you will see mainly non adult results. How is the user satisfaction met? First result for me is this:

Married White Women Discreetly Having Sex With Black Men - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sk_34H9EvH0

So if Youtube has great time on site, bounce rate etc., Google decided to show it first for adult key? :1orglaugh

You should check that video btw, see how fucked up Google algo is. Or maybe they made it on purpose? Think about it and stop sucking dick of Google.