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GAMEFINEST 05-10-2018 09:33 PM

Iran or north korea nuclear weapons
 
Who would you more scared off? IRAN OR NK? when it comes to Nuclear Weapons

NK is obsolete.
Iran will probably kick start the program again since we kicked them to the curb again.


Enjoy!

kane 05-10-2018 10:02 PM

They both make me nervous but I am far more afraid of Iran.

Sarn 05-10-2018 10:44 PM

nuclear Iran will start the nuclear race in ME and they will start a nuclear war

Sarn 05-10-2018 10:45 PM

And Iran and NK work together under one nuke program, Iran financing it

BaldBastard 05-10-2018 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GAMEFINEST (Post 22267837)
Who would you more scared off? IRAN OR NK? when it comes to Nuclear Weapons

NK is obsolete.
Iran will probably kick start the program again since we kicked them to the curb again.
Enjoy!

How can you say North Korea is obsolete when they actually have nukes ( verified ) and they have tested a 100KTn thermo nuclear devise and have ballistic weapons that can reach anywhere in the USA, and are presumed to have the worlds largest stockpiles of Biological and chemical weapons.

It's totally going to depend on where you live in the world, for someone in the USA North Korea is a far greater immediate threat as they do have nukes and they do have ballistic missiles capable of reaching the USA, and there's fuck all the USA could do about it if they did fire because of their proximity to South Korea, Japan, Russia and China. Any retaliation for a North Korean attack.. is limited.

USA could erase Iran from the map and the only real countries bitching would be other countries you want to erase, none of them having weapons that could reach the USA.

Steve Rupe 05-10-2018 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22267858)
How can you say North Korea is obsolete when they actually have nukes ( verified ) and they have tested a 100KTn thermo nuclear devise and have ballistic weapons that can reach anywhere in the USA, and are presumed to have the worlds largest stockpiles of Biological and chemical weapons.

It's totally going to depend on where you live in the world, for someone in the USA North Korea is a far greater immediate threat as they do have nukes and they do have ballistic missiles capable of reaching the USA, and there's fuck all the USA could do about it if they did fire because of their proximity to South Korea, Japan, Russia and China. Any retaliation for a North Korean attack.. is limited.

USA could erase Iran from the map and the only real countries bitching would be other countries you want to erase, none of them having weapons that could reach the USA.

NK has nukes and NK has missiles but the two are not married up and even if they were the warhead cannot survive reentry. They need much more testing over a period of a year or so to accomplish this marriage and reentry problem. Thus they cannot deliver a nuke anywhere in the world via ICBM.

BaldBastard 05-10-2018 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 22267856)
And Iran and NK work together under one nuke program, Iran financing it

Iran's finance minster was in North Korea a few weeks back :) mission in progress

BaldBastard 05-10-2018 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Rupe (Post 22267860)
NK has nukes and NK has missiles but the two are not married up and even if they were the warhead cannot survive reentry. They need much more testing over a period of a year or so to accomplish this marriage and reentry problem. Thus they cannot deliver a nuke anywhere in the world via ICBM.

Same people misquoted the power of the bombs, and finally they have finished analysing that big one..

North Korean nuclear test had energy of 10 Nagasaki bombs

North Korean nuclear test had energy of 10 Nagasaki bombs and moved mountain, geophysicists say - Science News - ABC News

Why would they send an Nuke to the USA, when they have one of the biggest stockpiles of Biological weapons? We all know its going to be a one hit thing, so why waste that on a nuke? Also an atmospheric explosion would do just as much damage as a ground one. Because its not the first hit that matters its what goes down next.


BTW these talks are breaking down..
North Korea emphasizes mutual step-by-step denuclearization process in official announcement : North Korea : News : The Hankyoreh

Xi is offering sweeteners, During his meeting with Xi, Kim reportedly “talked about plan-related matters for analyzing and assessing trends around the Korean Peninsula, seizing strategic opportunities and strengthening tactical cooperation between North Korea and China.”

Kim running to China and doing any military deals like "you protect us".. is possibly a worse situation than North Korea being nuclear by themselves. China certainly don't want no trouble, there no money in trouble for them. But more China in North Korea is going to upset.. South Korea and Japan a whole fucking lot.

Trump-Kim summit unlikely to bring full North Korea denuclearization -- but war can be avoided | Fox News

Even Fox news is saying Trump needs to accept North Korea as an Nuclear power.. If he want's to avoid a war.

Sarn 05-11-2018 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22267861)
Iran's finance minster was in North Korea a few weeks back :) mission in progress

As I think technologies today they have, but with such economy, they can't realize it now because event can't feed their people. Today doing a game for receive moni from the west, EU as an example.

pimpmaster9000 05-11-2018 12:24 AM

iran and n.korea never attacked anybody...

the ones I am afraid of nuked civilians 2x that were no threat to them whatsoever...the only reason the civilians got nuked was that one man in japan living in his own reality would not bend the knee...also stalin waltzed in to berlin like a boss and was going to do the same in japan and this would mean no glory for WW2 tourists USA...

imagine that...nuking civilians so that somebody else does not steal your thunder :Oh crap

directfiesta 05-11-2018 02:50 AM

nukes don't kill people ...
people kill people .

crockett 05-11-2018 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GAMEFINEST (Post 22267837)
Who would you more scared off? IRAN OR NK? when it comes to Nuclear Weapons

NK is obsolete.
Iran will probably kick start the program again since we kicked them to the curb again.


Enjoy!

NK has nuclear weapons...

RedFred 05-11-2018 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 22267930)
nukes don't kill people ...
people kill people .

Bingo.

Nukes are inanimate objects, they cannot fire on their own. You wanna keep Iran from having spoons too?

Steve Rupe 05-11-2018 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22267884)
iran and n.korea never attacked anybody...

the ones I am afraid of nuked civilians 2x that were no threat to them whatsoever...the only reason the civilians got nuked was that one man in japan living in his own reality would not bend the knee...also stalin waltzed in to berlin like a boss and was going to do the same in japan and this would mean no glory for WW2 tourists USA...

imagine that...nuking civilians so that somebody else does not steal your thunder :Oh crap

Says the ignorant, traumatized person that views the world thru the eyes of a damaged, sick and twisted brain.

Rochard 05-11-2018 07:08 AM

Who I am more scared of? Iran.

North Korea is just dumb, and is in a bad place. For years they had the support of China but those days are over. China sees now that North Korea is nothing but a constant drain on China and they want to wash their hands of it all. North Korea has nuclear weapons, and perhaps the technology to deliver them to the United States but it really has no desire to do this. The goal of North Korea is to unify with South Korea, or at least make peace; Attacking the United States or another country with a nuclear bomb fails to accomplish this and only makes things worse for them.

Iran is a different beast. Iran is trying to spread it's control to other countries such as Iran, and now Syria. I think they are also involved in Yemen too. Of course there is always their never ending issues with Israel. Then there is the terrorist aspect. It's believe Iran is the largest supporter of world wide terrorism. If a terrorist gets a nuke and sets it off in any city, well, that changes everything.

dyna mo 05-11-2018 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22267884)
iran and n.korea never attacked anybody...
crap

and you claim you're educated.

crockett 05-11-2018 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22267884)
iran and n.korea never attacked anybody...

https://i.imgflip.com/1hek33.jpg

pimpmaster9000 05-11-2018 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Rupe (Post 22268018)
Says the ignorant, traumatized person that views the world thru the eyes of a damaged, sick and twisted brain.

well it is the truth...the civilians of war torn crippled japan were no threat whatsoever...they were 0 danger to the USA and using nuclear weapons on them was not warranted...I know you do not understand this because you are american, and americans do not see anything wrong with nuking non-americans...but imagine for a second they were americans...do you understand now? nuking civilians without any need = bad :thumbsup

stalin was about to march in to japan and you guys could not allow this...you would rather nuke civilians and claim "it had to be done" then let stalin steal your thunder...

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22268018)
and you claim you're educated..

iran has not invaded anybody in 200 years...which certainly can not be said about the USA...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...involving_Iran

dyna mo 05-11-2018 07:49 AM

No.

what you exclaimed is that Iran and nk have never attacked anyone.

embrace your ignorance, don't try to weezle out.

pimpmaster9000 05-11-2018 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22268059)
No.

what you exclaimed is that Iran and nk have never attacked anyone.

embrace your ignorance, don't try to weezle out.

ok who did they attack? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

dyna mo 05-11-2018 07:55 AM

you're the one with the fancy education from schools across the globe, you should already know.

pimpmaster9000 05-11-2018 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22268062)
you're the one with the fancy education from schools across the globe, you should already know.

exactly...they have not attacked anybody...waaaaaay more peaceful than the USA :thumbsup

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more peaceful :thumbsup

dyna mo 05-11-2018 08:05 AM

and you claim you're educated.

pimpmaster9000 05-11-2018 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22268067)
and you claim you're educated.

you can debate like this all you want I give no shits...

dyna mo 05-11-2018 08:11 AM

you think this is a debate while exclaiming you're educated- that's funny.

Sarn 05-11-2018 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22267884)
iran and n.korea never attacked anybody...

the ones I am afraid of nuked civilians 2x that were no threat to them whatsoever...the only reason the civilians got nuked was that one man in japan living in his own reality would not bend the knee...also stalin waltzed in to berlin like a boss and was going to do the same in japan and this would mean no glory for WW2 tourists USA...

imagine that...nuking civilians so that somebody else does not steal your thunder :Oh crap

Iran build empire

https://gdb.rferl.org/62CF25D6-1032-...w1023_r1_s.jpg

The Korean War - was a war between North Korea (with the support of China and the Soviet Union) and South Korea (with the principal support of the United States). The war began on 25 June 1950 when North Korea invaded South Korea following a series of clashes along the border. The United Nations, with the United States as the principal force, came to the aid of South Korea. China came to the aid of North Korea, and the Soviet Union also gave some assistance to the North.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War

NK want to unite with SK. It will do they powerful but who gives guarantees this power will good for the region for majority people over there. Today world system not balanced after USSR collapse, USA spent trillions on military around the world, not on its schools and hospitals and infrastructure - many nations destroyed. But nuke in Iran or NK not will save them. Look on Hiroshima and Nagasaki today and how many nukes were exploded during the cold war, it was thousands. Important only theory -deterrence theory If one little and proud country like Iran will explode nuke - it destroys world safety which we have 70 years without full-scale military conflict.

pimpmaster9000 05-11-2018 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 22268084)
Iran build empire

https://gdb.rferl.org/62CF25D6-1032-...w1023_r1_s.jpg

The Korean War - was a war between North Korea (with the support of China and the Soviet Union) and South Korea (with the principal support of the United States). The war began on 25 June 1950 when North Korea invaded South Korea following a series of clashes along the border. The United Nations, with the United States as the principal force, came to the aid of South Korea. China came to the aid of North Korea, and the Soviet Union also gave some assistance to the North.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War

NK want to unite with SK. It will do they powerful but who gives guarantees this power will good for the region for majority people over there. Today world system not balanced after USSR collapse, USA spent trillions on military around the world, not on its schools and hospitals and infrastructure - many nations destroyed. But nuke in Iran or NK not will save them. Look on Hiroshima and Nagasaki today and how many nukes were exploded during the cold war, it was thousands. Important only theory -deterrence theory If one little and proud country like Iran will explode nuke - it destroys world safety which we have 70 years without full-scale military conflict.

list of countries iran has invaded:
-none
list of countries n.korea has invaded:
-none

countries the USA has invaded/destabilized/fucked with:
https://williamblum.org/images/uploa...ntions_map.png

dyna mo 05-11-2018 08:28 AM

the guy with the fancy education can't remember what he posted just a few posts ago

heads up:
Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22267884)
iran and n.korea never attacked anybody...

attack and invade are 2 vastly different things. educated people know this.

pimpmaster9000 05-11-2018 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22268089)
the guy with the fancy education can't remember what he posted just a few posts ago

heads up:


attack and invade are 2 vastly different things. educated people know this.


if nitpicking is your best argument then :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

dyna mo 05-11-2018 08:38 AM

the differences between attack and invade are vast. educated people know that.

pimpmaster9000 05-11-2018 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22268096)
the differences between attack and invade are vast. educated people know that.

Yes yes amuse me with your desperation...

dyna mo 05-11-2018 08:51 AM

you wrote it not me. I'm expressing shock that those fancy euro schools you claim you attended did not teach you the difference and how different meanings matter in words.

people educated at good schools are taught these things.

GAMEFINEST 05-11-2018 09:02 AM

North Korea has nuclear weapons? Really? They are trying to make them work unlike iran. They can make them faster stronger deadlier, only thing that stopped it was obama and nato.

PR_Glen 05-11-2018 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22267884)
iran and n.korea never attacked anybody...

the ones I am afraid of nuked civilians 2x that were no threat to them whatsoever...the only reason the civilians got nuked was that one man in japan living in his own reality would not bend the knee...also stalin waltzed in to berlin like a boss and was going to do the same in japan and this would mean no glory for WW2 tourists USA...

imagine that...nuking civilians so that somebody else does not steal your thunder :Oh crap

can anyone here piece this together to tell what he is talking about? it's like his keyboard farted out a bunch of random words not in any specific order or any one topic and thats what came out instead...

Maybe its time you talked to someone about your drinking?

Sarn 05-11-2018 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22268088)
list of countries iran has invaded:
-none
list of countries n.korea has invaded:
-none

countries the USA has invaded/destabilized/fucked with:
https://williamblum.org/images/uploa...ntions_map.png

I wrote about the US and why it has happened. Who will give for Iran or NK invade somewhere? They don't have power for it, but it is not mean they don't want :1orglaugh

celandina 05-11-2018 09:39 AM

" An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure"

I would nuke Pyong Yang and then Teheran .... then, when they ask for peace I would send in some General from "Douglas MacArthur school of governing" and there you have it a peace for another 100 years...:thumbsup

pimpmaster9000 05-11-2018 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22268101)
you wrote it not me. I'm expressing shock that those fancy euro schools you claim you attended did not teach you the difference and how different meanings matter in words.

people educated at good schools are taught these things.


You may well be right...I am sure that violence and war are a big part of American culture, it is no surprise that you have fine nuances to describe violence that are lost on me...one country attacking or invading is all the same to normal people but Klingons may well have 100 words to describe their national sport...even if you have to attack a country in order to invade, there must be 100s of Klingon reasons why these 2 words are vastly different in meaning in your "culture"...

pimpmaster9000 05-11-2018 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 22268110)
can anyone here piece this together to tell what he is talking about? it's like his keyboard farted out a bunch of random words not in any specific order or any one topic and thats what came out instead...

Maybe its time you talked to someone about your drinking?

You are too dumb to follow...

Sarn 05-11-2018 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by celandina (Post 22268118)
" An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure"

I would nuke Pyong Yang and then Teheran .... then, when they ask for peace I would send in some General from "Douglas MacArthur school of governing" and there you have it a peace for another 100 years...:thumbsup

It is expensive. Better way send potato and exchange it on peace :1orglaugh

Why War with North Korea Could Cost Trillions of Dollars
Why War with North Korea Could Cost Trillions of Dollars | The National Interest

The $3 trillion 'catastrophic' cost of a North Korea-US war
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/new...ectid=11847752

celandina 05-11-2018 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 22268134)
It is expensive. Better way send potato and exchange it on peace :1orglaugh

Why War with North Korea Could Cost Trillions of Dollars
Why War with North Korea Could Cost Trillions of Dollars | The National Interest

The $3 trillion 'catastrophic' cost of a North Korea-US war
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/new...ectid=11847752

I said " nuke", not to storm the proverbial beaches (one nuke each.... cheap and effective):1orglaugh


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