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Bladewire 07-24-2018 07:57 AM

Trump Supporters Mass Psychosis Diagnosed: the “Dunning-Kruger effect”
 

"The effect is a type of cognitive bias, where people with little expertise or ability assume they have superior expertise or ability. This overestimation occurs as a result of the fact that they don’t have enough knowledge to know they don’t have enough knowledge. Or, stated more harshly, they are “too dumb to know they are dumb.”"

Here’s the psychological problem that causes Trump supporters to keep getting duped


In the past, some prominent psychologists have explained President Donald Trump’s unwavering support by alluding to a well-established psychological phenomenon known as the “Dunning-Kruger effect.” The effect is a type of cognitive bias, where people with little expertise or ability assume they have superior expertise or ability. This overestimation occurs as a result of the fact that they don’t have enough knowledge to know they don’t have enough knowledge. Or, stated more harshly, they are “too dumb to know they are dumb.” This simple but loopy concept has been demonstrated dozens of times in well-controlled psychology studies and in a variety of contexts. However, until now, the effect had not been studied in one of the most obvious and important realms—political knowledge.

A new study published in the journal Political Psychology, carried out by the political scientist Ian Anson at the University of Maryland Baltimore County, not only found that the Dunning-Kruger effect applies to politics, it also appears to be exacerbated when partisan identities are made more salient. In other words, those who score low on political knowledge tend to overestimate their expertise even more when greater emphasis is placed on political affiliation.

Anson told PsyPost that he became increasingly interested in the effect after other academics were discussing its potential role in the 2016 U.S. presidential election on social media. “I follow a number of political scientists who marveled at the social media pundit class’ seeming display of ‘Dunning-Kruger-ish tendencies’ in their bombastic coverage of the election.” However, speculation by scientists does not always translate into statistically-significant findings, so Anson began thinking of ways to experimentally test what he described as a “very serious accusation.”

In order to have a large representative sample of subjects, Dr. Anson administered online surveys to over 2,600 Americans. The first survey was designed to assess political knowledge, while the second was used to examine how confident they were in their knowledge. Questions quizzed participants on topics like names of cabinet members, the length of term limits for members of Congress, and the names of programs that the U.S. government spends the least on.

~Ray 07-24-2018 08:01 AM

What is the psychosis called when you are unable to recover from a loss?

Can't we all just get along?

Bladewire 07-24-2018 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Ray (Post 22310399)
What is the psychosis called when you are unable to recover from a loss?

Can't we all just get along?

Why go into the past?

Why can't you focus on the present?

Trump has been POTUS for two years and we're living in a real time, real life, shitshow of presidential incompetence and Trump supporters refuse to face the present day reality.

Now we know why, the “Dunning-Kruger effect.”

Bladewire 07-24-2018 08:24 AM





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DraX 07-24-2018 08:38 AM

Bladewire instead of crying like a woman start working on a more competent democratic presidential candidate for next election.

One that is better than Trump...:2 cents:

Bladewire 07-24-2018 08:55 AM





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bronco67 07-24-2018 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22310396)

"The effect is a type of cognitive bias, where people with little expertise or ability assume they have superior expertise or ability. This overestimation occurs as a result of the fact that they don’t have enough knowledge to know they don’t have enough knowledge. Or, stated more harshly, they are “too dumb to know they are dumb.”"

This is exactly what I've been saying for the last 2 years. They're too fucking stupid to know how stupid they are.

bronco67 07-24-2018 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22310439)




Exactly. When someone has to explain why he'snot a racist, that means he's a racist. To explain it to the racist dolts around here....if you've been accused, then you probably are. Accept it.

crockett 07-24-2018 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Ray (Post 22310399)
What is the psychosis called when you are unable to recover from a loss?

Can't we all just get along?

Ask this guy and all those guys who used to stand outside the post office trying to collect signatures to somehow magically impeach Obama.. None of you cared about "getting along" while Obama was POTUS.. You were all sore losers. The tea party came into existence due to far right hate because a black guy was the POTUS..

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TheSquealer 07-24-2018 12:40 PM

The new Democratic Party.... the Party of Hate, the Party of Bigotry and Intolerance and the Party of Bullies.

You either conform to the Leftist narrative of the day, or get shouted down, get called names like "alt right", "nazi" and "racist" and they'll do anything and everything to attack you with no holds barred to prevent anyone but them being heard.

No respect whatsoever for different views
No respect whatsoever for different opinions
No respect whatsoever for our Democracy
No respect whatsoever for anyone who doesn't agree with them

This.... is why you've lost the White House, Senate, the House and more state legislative seats since the Civil War.

Rather than tempering your behavior and getting the Democratic Party back on track with a vision and better plans.... you keep doubling down on your hatred and intolerance for anyone and everyone that isn't you or that doesn't share your twisted view of the world.


The vote for Trump was a vote against Leftist hatred, bigotry and intolerance. It was a vote against everything you guys are. Everything the normal working class is tired of in politics in the USA. You can't even understand what it means to have a billionaire living in a golden tower, connecting more and having a message that resonates more with the working class than any Democratic candidate.

But yeah... "muh russia".

Good luck in November.

Still waiting on that "Blue Wave"

https://www.conservativereview.com/w...wave-sized.jpg

oppoten 07-24-2018 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22310439)




It's not the same thing. This is saying that something is true, when the opposite is supposedly true.

That "effect" implies saying something is a lot true, when it is in fact a little bit true. Not the same thing at all.

Bladewire 07-24-2018 04:32 PM





Acepimp 07-24-2018 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 22310590)
You either conform to the Leftist narrative of the day, or get shouted down, get called names like "alt right", "nazi" and "racist" and they'll do anything and everything to attack you with no holds barred to prevent anyone but them being heard.

The "party of tolerance" are the true fascists, much like Hitler's brown shirts

:rasta

thommy 07-24-2018 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 22310496)
This is exactly what I've been saying for the last 2 years. They're too fucking stupid to know how stupid they are.

but it is nothing new.
all dictatorships work with stupids by telling them that they are smart.

there are many other symptoms ie.

if you criticize a stupid he will hate you for it.
if you do the same with a smart guy he will say thank you.

what these guys will never get is that populism is the science of stupids.
go too a football game - the whole audience knows to play better as the ones what get paid millions for it. you just have to give them the feeling that their stupid thoughts are right and they will do all for you.

putin i.e is very smart - he made the stupids his soldiers without paying them.

if one of them ever would have looked in the history they would know that ALL this dictatorships started by

1. don´t believe the media - they lie on you
they will catch that easy because complex situations are not easy to get from a small
brainer. if they don´t understand that the earth is round and why people on the other
side don´´t fall down - just tell them it is flat - this is what they understand and what
they want to believe.

2. explain them economy by words like "you pay for it" or "they steal it from you"
every bonsai brain will love to catch that because it makes economy so easy.

3. give them an enemy. not them but someone else have to be guilty. and if this someone
looks weak enough the will love to become heroes.

4. tell them that THEY are the good ones and the other are the bad ones.
every stupid will love to believe.

5. build rhetoric in a chain. that means: don´t prove your argument but prove the
logic what follows a wrong argument. goebbels was perfect in that.
he said: nearly every german knows one good jew but we are 80 million germans.
do we have to accept 80 million jews just because of ONE we know ?
THIS is the logic bonsai brainers will follow like a good trained dog.
they don´t understand logic - they don´t believe how easy it is to manipulate them
into the stupid direction because the ARE ALREADY in this corner. you just have to tell
them that THIS is the ONE AND ONLY corner what makes sense.
a lazy stupid (morst of them are lazy) will love it because they are scared to walk this
way to the other corner to see what is there. they will swear that there are no other
corners or that the other corners are hell.

all ideology - all religion - all sects are working like that.
how many people got killed from others because they believe in heaven or in hell.
not one of them have ever seen or have a prove for what they have killed for.
and yes this is definitely STUPID.

dyna mo 07-24-2018 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22310723)
if you criticize a stupid he will hate you for it.
if you do the same with a smart guy he will say thank you.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
exclaims the stupid who spews hate at everyone who criticizes him.

slapass 07-24-2018 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22310723)
but it is nothing new.
all dictatorships work with stupids by telling them that they are smart.

there are many other symptoms ie.

if you criticize a stupid he will hate you for it.
if you do the same with a smart guy he will say thank you.

what these guys will never get is that populism is the science of stupids.
go too a football game - the whole audience knows to play better as the ones what get paid millions for it. you just have to give them the feeling that their stupid thoughts are right and they will do all for you.

putin i.e is very smart - he made the stupids his soldiers without paying them.

if one of them ever would have looked in the history they would know that ALL this dictatorships started by

1. don´t believe the media - they lie on you
they will catch that easy because complex situations are not easy to get from a small
brainer. if they don´t understand that the earth is round and why people on the other
side don´´t fall down - just tell them it is flat - this is what they understand and what
they want to believe.

2. explain them economy by words like "you pay for it" or "they steal it from you"
every bonsai brain will love to catch that because it makes economy so easy.

3. give them an enemy. not them but someone else have to be guilty. and if this someone
looks weak enough the will love to become heroes.

4. tell them that THEY are the good ones and the other are the bad ones.
every stupid will love to believe.

5. build rhetoric in a chain. that means: don´t prove your argument but prove the
logic what follows a wrong argument. goebbels was perfect in that.
he said: nearly every german knows one good jew but we are 80 million germans.
do we have to accept 80 million jews just because of ONE we know ?
THIS is the logic bonsai brainers will follow like a good trained dog.
they don´t understand logic - they don´t believe how easy it is to manipulate them
into the stupid direction because the ARE ALREADY in this corner. you just have to tell
them that THIS is the ONE AND ONLY corner what makes sense.
a lazy stupid (morst of them are lazy) will love it because they are scared to walk this
way to the other corner to see what is there. they will swear that there are no other
corners or that the other corners are hell.

all ideology - all religion - all sects are working like that.
how many people got killed from others because they believe in heaven or in hell.
not one of them have ever seen or have a prove for what they have killed for.
and yes this is definitely STUPID.

But there is no cure. Most people informed understand unintended consequences. They understand that some problems are complicated. That is why we vote in people to solve those issues. No one is an expert in everything. The US needed to die/change one day. Maybe it is now,

TheSquealer 07-24-2018 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 22310722)
The "party of tolerance" are the true fascists, much like Hitler's brown shirts

:rasta

It's a little comical that the "anti bullying" crowd are the biggest bullies.

This is a long conversation in psychology and neuroscience, but i will say simply that both sites are the same and looking at the same things through a slightly different mental filter. They carry on about religion being stupid but turn climate change into a religion, vegetarianism into a religion, social causes into a religion etc. for example, they will call you bully and start anti-bully campaigns as they bully you. the behaviors on both sides are the exact same, they just manifest themselves in slightly different ways.

thommy 07-25-2018 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22310725)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
exclaims the stupid who spews hate at everyone who criticizes him.

you just proved my statement.

nico-t 07-25-2018 04:43 AM

every day it's opposite day for the brainwashed trump obsessed idiots. It's incredible really.

thommy 07-25-2018 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 22310872)
every day it's opposite day for the brainwashed trump obsessed idiots. It's incredible really.

if you believe in a guy that tells you that NOTHING what you read in the media is true - than i will not try to make you understand that you are NOT Napoleon - you will not believe it anyway. so it is a senseless discussion with people who believe in conspiracy theories and ghosts.

the smart ones will show you soon that your 4th reich will not come.

nico-t 07-25-2018 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22310880)
if you believe in a guy that tells you that NOTHING what you read in the media is true - than i will not try to make you understand that you are NOT Napoleon - you will not believe it anyway. so it is a senseless discussion with people who believe in conspiracy theories and ghosts.

the smart ones will show you soon that your 4th reich will not come.

The 4th reich (the EU) is already a reality, Mr. Oblivious. You're blabbing your mouth about 'dictator Trump', but guess what. People actually voted for him which is called 'democracy'.

Who the fuck voted for Juncker?

And even IF we vote for an EU law, like the Dutch who voted AGAINST the EU constitution in 2005, we get it anyway!

The EU is the real dictatorship. Yet you're completely blind for reality.

wehateporn 07-25-2018 07:48 AM

I don't believe you're having the effect on GFY that Media Matters and Soros had hoped you would :2 cents:

DraX 07-25-2018 07:53 AM

Self proclaimed neuroscience expert and George Soros right hand Thommy hates democracy and believes EU should be forced upon all European citizens.

dyna mo 07-25-2018 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22310845)
you just proved my statement.

thank you for proving over and over how hateful and ignorant you are.

CarlosTheGaucho 07-25-2018 10:34 AM

Yet another desperate attempt to paint one half of the US citizens with a broad brush.

What political tradition was that - to dehumanize one's opposition in order so they could be easier silenced or persecuted? To call them stupid, "-ist" "-ist" "-got" "not worthy a vote" "uneducated" etc. etc.

To make it a mainstream non stop touted narrative that they are somewhat less worthy, that they need to be silenced, that they need to be persecuted for their beliefs?

To establish peer pressure and to make it a mortal sin to oppose the established narrative?

And now you still wonder why so many already decided to #Walkaway ?

Here you go:



(btw. I'm sure this has to be Putin's work - the lady is obviously a bot paid by Kremlin - idiots)

DraX 07-25-2018 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho (Post 22311000)

I wonder if anyone took the time and watch the video. Compared with the democratic tools of gfy this woman is a genius, YES a genius. She's calm, humble, using common sense and making logical conclusions.

8 min of sharing her experience with what's going on in the U.S., news and the political field based only on that I'd say she's wife material with only that in mind.

It also shows how infected the debate is and how the liberals and democrats really don't bring anything of value to the tables these days.

Bladewire 07-25-2018 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho (Post 22311000)
Yet another desperate attempt to paint one half of the US citizens with a broad brush.


(btw. I'm sure this has to be Putin's work - the lady is obviously a bot paid by Kremlin - idiots)

Hey idiot, let me educate you, by the way, why am I the one always having to educate you stupid fucking alt-right pieces of shit?

Half the population didn't vote for Trump you fucking idiot.

Do you understand that?

As much as you have wet dreams that half the population licks deep in Trump's shitty ass like you, you're fucking wrong, as usual.

A measly 63 million people voted for Trump.

66 million voted for Clinton.

The population of America is 326 million.

19% of the population voted for Trump.

19% of the population are fucking idiots like you


Fuck off moron :321GFY

ilnjscb 07-25-2018 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22310723)

if you criticize a stupid he will hate you for it.
if you do the same with a smart guy he will say thank you.

So if I call you an idiot what will you do?

ilnjscb 07-25-2018 11:37 AM

"One of the painful things about our time is that those who feel certainty are stupid, and those with any imagination and understanding are filled with doubt and indecision." ----Bertrand Russell

Seems to fit

beerptrol 07-25-2018 11:44 AM

The Traitor In Chief is running his mouth that the Russians are going to help the Dems this election. He's already dirtying the waters again

Trump says he’s worried about Russian meddling ... to elect Democrats

Bladewire 07-25-2018 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beerptrol (Post 22311024)
The Traitor In Chief is running his mouth that the Russians are going to help the Dems this election. He's already dirtying the waters again

Trump says he’s worried about Russian meddling ... to elect Democrats

He's worried about Russian meddling, but as president, he's doing nothing to combat Russian meddling or protect our election process.

Trump hasn't had one press conference about protecting our election process or upgrading voting machines, nothing. But he's more than happy to put out the lie that he's afraid of Russian meddling in the election to hurt him.

wehateporn 07-25-2018 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22311026)
He's worried about Russian meddling, but as president, he's doing nothing to combat Russian meddling or protect our election process.

Trump hasn't had one press conference about protecting our election process or upgrading voting machines, nothing. But he's more than happy to put out the lie that he's afraid of Russian meddling in the election to hurt him.

Voting machines whether upgraded or downgraded makes no difference, they are suspicious as get, get rid of them

CarlosTheGaucho 07-25-2018 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22311016)
Hey idiot, let me educate you, by the way, why am I the one always having to educate you stupid fucking alt-right pieces of shit?

Half the population didn't vote for Trump you fucking idiot.

Do you understand that?

As much as you have wet dreams that half the population licks deep in Trump's shitty ass like you, you're fucking wrong, as usual.

A measly 63 million people voted for Trump.

66 million voted for Clinton.

The population of America is 326 million.

19% of the population voted for Trump.

19% of the population are fucking idiots like you


Fuck off moron :321GFY

You're not really too good with fact based reasoning? How about constitution?

Well I guess throwing tantrums will do, won't it?

Carry on - another perfect example why so many have already decided to #Walkaway

Bladewire 07-25-2018 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho (Post 22311103)
You're not really too good with fact based reasoning? How about constitution?

Well I guess throwing tantrums will do, won't it?

Carry on - another perfect example why so many have already decided to #Walkaway

Truth: 19% of the population voted for Trump

Lie: 50% of the population voted for Trump

People like you have to lie to try and convince others what you want them to believe in your world of Lies.

Truth is like Kryptonite to conmen like you

CarlosTheGaucho 07-25-2018 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22311105)
Truth: 19% of the population voted for Trump

Lie: 50% of the population voted for Trump

people like you have to lie to try and convince people what you want them to believe in your world of Lies.

Truth is like Kryptonite to conmen like you

Don't play a smart ass, your input is not needed for those more sane people to understand what I meant.

Get back to meet your daily quota of starting enough "Trump supporter" threads.

TheSquealer 07-25-2018 02:59 PM

The New Left

Intolerant of democracy
Intolerant of opinions
Intolerant of other views
Intolerant of free speech

They are now THE bullies. Doing everything possible to insult others to shut them up by calling racist and nazi, shout them down and even start talking about wishing death on anyone with a differing opinion to stifle discussion or any hint of opposition to the narrative which you MUST obey or be demonized, dehumanized and viciously attacked. The ideas are never attacked with better ideas.

It's not hard to understand why Trump is now your president and why on the state level, you're non-existent. Normal people are voting against your vitriol, bigotry and hate.

bronco67 07-25-2018 03:01 PM

Dumbing-Clueless Effect

TheSquealer 07-25-2018 03:02 PM

Left = You're a hateful racist and a Nazi
Also Left = You're the intolerant one


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