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lakerslive 07-12-2021 07:58 AM

I noticed about developers
 
They charge you cheap and get job done fast first couple projects

then as time goes by, it gets more expensive for the smallest changes and takes longer.

Is it just me?

Tube Ace 07-12-2021 08:06 AM

They may have been desperate for cash the first job.

lakerslive 07-12-2021 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tube Ace (Post 22886936)
They may have been desperate for cash the first job.

hey tube ace, so how do you know your developer isnt giving you bs coding if you dont know coding?

Do you hire another coder or security expert to go over code?

Klen 07-12-2021 08:14 AM

That is how bussiness model it is - you get cheap base, you pay more money for upgrades.

Manfap 07-12-2021 08:34 AM

If they're doing it cheap for you they're doing it cheap for others, there then comes a time where you probably find yourself with maybe too much work so raise prices and work through the backlog.

gar 07-12-2021 09:48 AM

How do you know it's a smallest changes if you don't know code?

Changing one line of code doesn't mean it's small.

MakeMeGrrrrowl 07-12-2021 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lakerslive (Post 22886931)
They charge you cheap and get job done fast first couple projects

then as time goes by, it gets more expensive for the smallest changes and takes longer.

Is it just me?

Programmers are the flakiest fucks in the industry.

Most of them suck and will steal your money and give you nothing in return.

When you find an amazing one, put them on salary and don't let them go.

blackmonsters 07-12-2021 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lakerslive (Post 22886931)
They charge you cheap and get job done fast first couple projects

then as time goes by, it gets more expensive for the smallest changes and takes longer.

Is it just me?

Pick one or more from list below :

1. After working for you, their bills didn't get paid. So either tell you bye, or charge you more.

2. They quoted their bottom price and you haggled it down further.

3. You changed the payment agreement in some way(amount/day/rate/method/taxes etc..)

4. They gave you lower priority because you did number 1, 2 or 3, or combination from above.

5. Times have changed, coding is more complex. (Responsive design is now required for example)

6. Inflation

7. Fuck you, you think we gonna work forever without a raise. :1orglaugh


:2 cents:

lakerslive 07-12-2021 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 22886982)
Pick one or more from list below :

1. After working for you, their bills didn't get paid. So either tell you bye, or charge you more.

2. They quoted their bottom price and you haggled it down further.

3. You changed the payment agreement in some way(amount/day/rate/method/taxes etc..)

4. They gave you lower priority because you did number 1, 2 or 3, or combination from above.

5. Times have changed, coding is more complex. (Responsive design is now required for example)

6. Inflation

7. Fuck you, you think we gonna work forever without a raise. :1orglaugh


:2 cents:

actually, im paying this guy good on what he is asking for, I tipped him and gave extra money and letting him dictate the hours. So totally different from most of your options

blackmonsters 07-12-2021 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MakeMeGrrrrowl (Post 22886981)
Programmers are the flakiest fucks in the industry.

Most of them suck and will steal your money and give you nothing in return.

When you find an amazing one, put them on salary and don't let them go.

Do they do flaky stuff like go to Puerto Rico in the middle of a project and then don't answer skype for a year?

Asking for a friend.

:1orglaugh

blackmonsters 07-12-2021 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lakerslive (Post 22886985)
actually, im paying this guy good on what he is asking for, I tipped him and gave extra money and letting him dictate the hours.

Translation : "I got the lowest bid. I kept adding shit and changing shit and it took longer; but I volunteered to pay more so it's OK that I actually fucked him hourly and ruined his mental health. He told me he had to get some fucking sleep."

:1orglaugh

lakerslive 07-12-2021 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 22887001)
Translation : "I got the lowest bid. I kept adding shit and changing shit and it took longer; but I volunteered to pay more so it's OK that I actually fucked him hourly and ruined his mental health. He told me he had to get some fucking sleep."

:1orglaugh

Im happy this thread is like therapy for you

sarettah 07-12-2021 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lakerslive (Post 22886931)
They charge you cheap and get job done fast first couple projects

then as time goes by, it gets more expensive for the smallest changes and takes longer.

Is it just me?

I have no idea about other developers, just myself.

As far as pricing goes, I charge by the hour, not by the estimate. I do not raise my prices very often, in fact I have clients that I am charging the same hourly rate that I was charging 10 years ago. I like to reward loyalty.

How quickly a project/task gets completed depends on several things. First my work load. If I have nothing else on my plate at the moment and it is a simple task I might get it done over lunch. If I have a full plate then I base when it gets done on the priority of the project/task.

Emergencies always go first. Then it goes to planned projects where I have given the client a date. Then it goes to adhoc issues and tasks.

I also do get to take time off, regardless of my client's viewpoint that I am spending too much time on gfy or I shouldn't take that trip right now. I am not an employee. I run my own shop and I set the rules and priorities and run my business as I see fit.

.

blackmonsters 07-12-2021 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lakerslive (Post 22887016)
Im happy this thread is like therapy for you

You are in denial.

:(

The Porn Nerd 07-12-2021 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22887019)
I have no idea about other developers, just myself.

As far as pricing goes, I charge by the hour, not by the estimate. I do not raise my prices very often, in fact I have clients that I am charging the same hourly rate that I was charging 10 years ago. I like to reward loyalty.

How quickly a project/task gets completed depends on several things. First my work load. If I have nothing else on my plate at the moment and it is a simple task I might get it done over lunch. If I have a full plate then I base when it gets done on the priority of the project/task.

Emergencies always go first. Then it goes to planned projects where I have given the client a date. Then it goes to adhoc issues and tasks.

I also do get to take time off, regardless of my client's viewpoint that I am spending too much time on gfy or I shouldn't take that trip right now. I am not an employee. I run my own shop and I set the rules and priorities and run my business as I see fit.

.


How DARE you act so professional! And on GFY no less!
Son you disappoint. :D


Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 22887027)
You are in denial.

:(

You are making a lot of assumptions here without knowing the facts.

Therefore: yo mamma!

blackmonsters 07-12-2021 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22887033)
Therefore: yo mamma!

:sadcrying


Oh wait!

Yo mamma * infinity!

:1orglaugh

The Porn Nerd 07-12-2021 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 22887044)
:sadcrying


Oh wait!

Yo mamma * infinity!

:1orglaugh

I never win this 'Yo Mamma!' game. :(

MakeMeGrrrrowl 07-12-2021 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 22886995)
Do they do flaky stuff like go to Puerto Rico in the middle of a project and then don't answer skype for a year?

Asking for a friend.

:1orglaugh

lol - that was definitely flaky - but you can't say you didn't get paid!

No one will ever say that I don't pay - and pay well (usually more than is asked for), on time, and often BEFORE money is due =)

You are not a flakey programmer in my opinion. A little crabby but definitely not flakey.

sarettah 07-12-2021 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MakeMeGrrrrowl (Post 22887070)
lol - that was definitely flaky - but you can't say you didn't get paid!

No one will ever say that I don't pay - and pay well (usually more than is asked for), on time, and often BEFORE money is due =)

You are not a flakey programmer in my opinion. A little crabby but definitely not flakey.

Hell, you can pay me for jobs and then not contact me for year, I don't mind at all.

You get back and say, "Is it done?" and I reply "I'm still waiting on an answer to my last email."

Sounds like a plan to me ;p

.

MakeMeGrrrrowl 07-13-2021 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22887232)
Hell, you can pay me for jobs and then not contact me for year, I don't mind at all.

You get back and say, "Is it done?" and I reply "I'm still waiting on an answer to my last email."

Sounds like a plan to me ;p

.

You are a good egg. In your own league. =)

The Porn Nerd 07-13-2021 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MakeMeGrrrrowl (Post 22887371)
You are a good egg. In your own league. =)

A league of his own?
There's no crying in programming!!

:1orglaugh

Sly 07-13-2021 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22887373)
A league of his own?
There's no crying in programming!!

:1orglaugh

Your old pop-culture jokes always make me laugh…

And then I remember how old we are getting.

And then I laugh some more.

:1orglaugh

bean-aid 07-13-2021 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lakerslive (Post 22886985)
actually, im paying this guy good on what he is asking for, I tipped him and gave extra money and letting him dictate the hours. So totally different from most of your options

Ugghh... freelancer.com then. And to boot all the good freelancers on there won't do adult

Webster01 07-13-2021 12:28 PM

https://clutch.co/web-developers

:2 cents:

plsureking 07-13-2021 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webster01 (Post 22887446)

if you plan to offshore, you better know more than them.

:2 cents:

#

blackmonsters 07-13-2021 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MakeMeGrrrrowl (Post 22887070)
but you can't say you didn't get paid!

Quoted for truth!


Every time too.

:thumbsup:thumbsup

Webster01 07-13-2021 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plsureking (Post 22887494)
if you plan to offshore, you better know more than them.

:2 cents:

#

Yeah, but since you donīt respond in Skype, I had to look for alternatives, Pimp...

:2 cents::2 cents::2 cents:

:upsidedow

MakeMeGrrrrowl 07-13-2021 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 22887504)
Quoted for truth!


Every time too.

:thumbsup:thumbsup

Sometimes you're soft. :winkwink:

The Porn Nerd 07-13-2021 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MakeMeGrrrrowl (Post 22887507)
Sometimes you're soft. :winkwink:

This is not good coming from a chick. :helpme

<insert dick pill link here>

:pimp

_Richard_ 07-14-2021 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plsureking (Post 22887494)
if you plan to offshore, you better know more than them.

:2 cents:

#

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh so true

Klen 07-14-2021 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gar (Post 22886979)
How do you know it's a smallest changes if you don't know code?

Changing one line of code doesn't mean it's small.

Yep, and it's not about "just changing one line of code" but knowing which line exactly need to be changed. Otherwise they are welcome to try by themself :1orglaugh

plsureking 07-14-2021 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webster01 (Post 22887505)
Yeah, but since you donīt respond in Skype, I had to look for alternatives, Pimp...

:2 cents::2 cents::2 cents:

:upsidedow

i am heartbroken :1orglaugh

skype is for suckers and scammers. i rarely have skype open. if that is your preferred business communication tool, i didn't miss anything.

:2 cents: :thumbsup

#

Klen 07-14-2021 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plsureking (Post 22887636)
i am heartbroken :1orglaugh

skype is for suckers and scammers. i rarely have skype open. if that is your preferred business communication tool, i didn't miss anything.

:2 cents: :thumbsup

#

Suck to be you i guess :1orglaugh

Webster01 07-14-2021 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plsureking (Post 22887636)
i rarely have skype open. if that is your preferred business communication tool, i didn't miss anything.

xD

I noticed that, since I never got a reply.
Then remove your Skype contact from your website if you donīt respond, you weasel......

Nevermind

plsureking 07-14-2021 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webster01 (Post 22887651)
xD

I noticed that, since I never got a reply.
Then remove your Skype contact from your website if you donīt respond, you weasel......

Nevermind

maybe i don't want to work with you :1orglaugh

if i am a "weasel" for not answering skype, then i avoided a headache.

take your crazy offshore :1orglaugh

#

Webster01 07-14-2021 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plsureking (Post 22887655)
maybe i don't want to work with you :1orglaugh

if i am a "weasel" for not answering skype, then i avoided a headache.
#

:upsidedow

Then just say it... So unfriendly...

MakeMeGrrrrowl 07-14-2021 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plsureking (Post 22887636)

skype is for suckers and scammers. i rarely have skype open. if that is your preferred business communication tool, i didn't miss anything.

What is your preferred business communication tool?

Quote:

Originally Posted by plsureking (Post 22887655)
maybe i don't want to work with you

I think it's better to say that upfront rather than just not answering. :2 cents:

The Porn Nerd 07-14-2021 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plsureking (Post 22887655)
maybe i don't want to work with you :1orglaugh

if i am a "weasel" for not answering skype, then i avoided a headache.

take your crazy offshore :1orglaugh

#

Switch the Skype link to an OnlyFans link and be done with it. LOL

MakeMeGrrrrowl 07-14-2021 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22887513)
This is not good coming from a chick. :helpme

<insert dick pill link here>

:pimp

I have a vibrator and men have mouths...fuck a limp dick. I'm still gonna get mine. You better get yours! =)

plsureking 07-14-2021 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22887671)
Switch the Skype link to an OnlyFans link and be done with it. LOL

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

#


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