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Brown Bear 06-26-2003 12:27 AM

Isn't Hypno Trick just simulated rape?
 
I'm kindof amazed that I've never heard anyone mention this before, but it seems to me that www.hypnotrick.com is just simulated rape and likely profits off of peoples rape fantasies.

Girl comes in, she gets hypnotized, guy fucks girl when she is hypnotized and semi-coherent.

If a psychiatrist did that in real life it would be rape, so how is this any different?

lil2rich4u2's woman 06-26-2003 12:28 AM

lil2rich4u2 beats me....

~Ray 06-26-2003 12:28 AM

interesting...

eroswebmaster 06-26-2003 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brown Bear


If a psychiatrist did that in real life it would be rape, so how is this any different?

It's not real?

It's fantasy?

Dude I'm all out of guesses ;)

Kimmykim 06-26-2003 12:29 AM

I don't think so, no.

SpaceAce 06-26-2003 12:29 AM

I mentioned it before when the Hun wouldn't list it for me. The key word is "simulated", though. It's not real, so who cares? 1/2 of the porn sites out there "simulate" the gross abuse of women. Some glorify tricking them or gagging them or hurting them. If anything, I bet Hypnotrick is less rough on the models than some other sites I can think of.

SpaceAce

WiredGuy 06-26-2003 12:29 AM

How is it different that BDSM or torture sites? If you punched a girl on the street you would similiarly get arrested. The key fact here is that the girls concented to doing these sex acts when they were coherent and the rest is acting.

WG

Brown Bear 06-26-2003 12:31 AM

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Originally posted by eroswebmaster


It's not real?

It's fantasy?

Dude I'm all out of guesses ;)

I know it's fantasy.

Fantasy rape scenarios.

Here's a quote from the tour:

Quote:

Within 10 minutes, she was under hypnosis and I was having my way with her! Within 10 minutes, she was under hypnosis and I was having my way with her! I wish you guys could have fucked her too

~Ray 06-26-2003 12:32 AM

Is simulated child porn illegal? If so, then I would guess that simulated rape would be also... but I'm sure they ran their site by a lawyer and have something in their discalimers to cover their asses.

StuartD 06-26-2003 12:32 AM

Guy walks into a bedroom, and lies down on a bed with a really hot women and screws her brains out...

what you don't see is the cameras, lights, camera men.. props.... studio behind them.

Uhhm.... isn't every single shoot done on every single website "simulated" ? I mean, there's a real good chance that the two people in front of the camera are just "acting" like they've known each other for a while, ya know?

Brown Bear 06-26-2003 12:33 AM

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Originally posted by AdvertisingSex
Is simulated child porn illegal? If so, then I would guess that simulated rape would be also... but I'm sure they ran their site by a lawyer and have something in their discalimers to cover their asses.
I never said Hypno Trick is illegal, but it is definitely sketchy, and certainly profits off of rapists or wannabe rapists rape fantasies.

Digipimp 06-26-2003 12:34 AM

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Originally posted by Brown Bear


I never said Hypno Trick is illegal, but it is definitely sketchy, and certainly profits off of rapists or wannabe rapists rape fantasies.

True. But many people in this biz only care about getting money at any cost, they don't care about anything else. Who's processing that site?

Kimmykim 06-26-2003 12:36 AM

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Originally posted by Brown Bear


I never said Hypno Trick is illegal, but it is definitely sketchy, and certainly profits off of rapists or wannabe rapists rape fantasies.

Nope. I am going to vehemently disagree with you on this one.

The producers are Canadian, the owners are Canadian and Canada has some very specific and VERY strict laws, more so than the US, regarding content.

If this wasn't 100% kosher in Canada it wouldn't be up.

Jay_StandAhead 06-26-2003 12:36 AM

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Originally posted by SpaceAce
If anything, I bet Hypnotrick is less rough on the models than some other sites I can think of.

SpaceAce

True.

It is totally fake, and let me tell you some of these girls can't act for shit.

If you look as some bondage stuff, where the girls are tied up, beat up, spit on, etc., hypnotrick is actually less hardcore.

No one beleive it's real, but the fact is that this is a fantasy some guys have, and real or not they enjoy it.

We researched the legalities and repercutions of this content intensivly before releasing the site, and there's nothing wrong with it.

Captain Obvious 06-26-2003 12:37 AM

who processes for it?

Kimmykim 06-26-2003 12:38 AM

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Originally posted by Captain Obvious
who processes for it?
Go to the join page and see.

Jay_StandAhead 06-26-2003 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brown Bear


I never said Hypno Trick is illegal, but it is definitely sketchy, and certainly profits off of rapists or wannabe rapists rape fantasies.

Unlike some other content that cultive the "taking advantage of a girl" fantasy, hypnotrick is quite soft on the girls. There's no beating, no spitting, etc.

I can find you many galleries or videos of girls being mistreated (for real).

Brown Bear 06-26-2003 12:39 AM

Seems to me it's along the same lines as simulated snuff films.

Much porn is simulated scenarios, but there is a big difference between simulating a lonely housewife fucking the plumber and simulating a girl being hypnotized and taken advantage of and fucked. In real life, the first scenario is legal, the second is not.

Digipimp 06-26-2003 12:40 AM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim

Go to the join page and see.

I did and it didn't show who unless you enter your personal info first.

StuartD 06-26-2003 12:40 AM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim

Go to the join page and see.

shame on you... go and use common sense on gfy people. You should know better :1orglaugh

GrimShawn 06-26-2003 12:40 AM

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Originally posted by lil2rich4u2's woman
lil2rich4u2 beats me....
http://www.juicylinks.com/rich.gif

Digipimp 06-26-2003 12:41 AM

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Originally posted by MaskedMan


shame on you... go and use common sense on gfy people. You should know better :1orglaugh

Use some common sense yourself and you'll quickly see the join page doesn't indicate a processor unless you are willing to enter your personal info and then proceed.

Brown Bear 06-26-2003 12:42 AM

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Originally posted by Jay[neX]


Unlike some other content that cultive the "taking advantage of a girl" fantasy, hypnotrick is quite soft on the girls. There's no beating, no spitting, etc.

I can find you many galleries or videos of girls being mistreated (for real).

Taking advantage of someone while they're hypnotized is still rape, whether you spit on them or not. It is non-consensual sex.

Kimmykim 06-26-2003 12:42 AM

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Originally posted by Digipimp


I did and it didn't show who unless you enter your personal info first.

And you can't make some up?

Gman.357 06-26-2003 12:43 AM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim


Nope. I am going to vehemently disagree with you on this one.

The producers are Canadian, the owners are Canadian and Canada has some very specific and VERY strict laws, more so than the US, regarding content.

If this wasn't 100% kosher in Canada it wouldn't be up.

Maybe in Canada, only simulated rape that contains simulated violence draws any attention?

Jay_StandAhead 06-26-2003 12:43 AM

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Originally posted by Brown Bear


Taking advantage of someone while they're hypnotized is still rape, whether you spit on them or not. It is non-consensual sex.

So is all bondage content and borderline violent content illegal? Or you're saying that you have a moral problem with the site?

I can perfectly understand a moral problem, but if you want to get into legalities, that's another issue.

NickB. 06-26-2003 12:44 AM

Simulated, that's it! No problem

~Ray 06-26-2003 12:45 AM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim


And you can't make some up?


You're sneaky... :thumbsup



...and no, I'm not stalking you. We're in the same threads... :)

Brown Bear 06-26-2003 12:45 AM

I never said I thought it was illegal, but it is certainly sketchy.

StuartD 06-26-2003 12:46 AM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim
And you can't make some up?
exactly... pretty simple. I went there, 1.5 mins later I found out it's membertrust.com

wasn't overly difficult.

Captain Obvious 06-26-2003 12:46 AM

I ended up here

http://www.inicient.com/partners.php

Kimmykim 06-26-2003 12:46 AM

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Originally posted by Gman.357


Maybe in Canada, only simulated rape that contains simulated violence draws any attention?

Sigh. Canadian laws have been posted on this board before.

There is no Miller test.

There are no community standards.

There is a list of what you cannot do. Degrading to women is on the list.

This is not degrading to women, nor is it akin to rape.

And it's all some (sometimes really bad) acting.

Digipimp 06-26-2003 12:46 AM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim


And you can't make some up?

sure I just thought with the guy from the company posting in here he might just say instead. It's who I thought it was, Paycom, since they don't have many standards as to what they will allow.

Jay_StandAhead 06-26-2003 12:46 AM

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Originally posted by Gman.357


Maybe in Canada, only simulated rape that contains simulated violence draws any attention?

Have you seen a full video from hypnotrick? Do you realize that with some different text on the tour, some different video editing, the girl could actually go to the Dr. to get hypnotised AND have sex with him? we could call it hypnosex.

The fact of the matter is the content if perfectly legal.

Some people had moral objections with Bangbus you know... doesn't change the fact that it's legal, funny and it's good content.

Captain Obvious 06-26-2003 12:47 AM

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Originally posted by MaskedMan


exactly... pretty simple. I went there, 1.5 mins later I found out it's membertrust.com

wasn't overly difficult.

and you called me stupid:1orglaugh

Kimmykim 06-26-2003 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AdvertisingSex



You're sneaky... :thumbsup



...and no, I'm not stalking you. We're in the same threads... :)

LOL!!

Brown Bear 06-26-2003 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jay[neX]


So is all bondage content and borderline violent content illegal? Or you're saying that you have a moral problem with the site?

I can perfectly understand a moral problem, but if you want to get into legalities, that's another issue.

Yes, it is mostly a moral issue.

I'm a pornographer just like you, and I profit by selling people videos of other people having sex, but the scenarios that I sell are legal in real life and in video simulations, whereas hypno trick would be rape in real life, although may still be legal to simulate on video.

Kimmykim 06-26-2003 12:49 AM

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Originally posted by Digipimp


sure I just thought with the guy from the company posting in here he might just say instead. It's who I thought it was, Paycom, since they don't have many standards as to what they will allow.

Oh give me a break.

Visa sets the standards and anything they haven't seen and approved doesn't get processed, or did you miss the last three months of last year?

Digipimp 06-26-2003 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim


Oh give me a break.

Visa sets the standards and anything they haven't seen and approved doesn't get processed, or did you miss the last three months of last year?

That's the same company that's processing for meatholes.com

Jay_StandAhead 06-26-2003 12:50 AM

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Originally posted by Brown Bear


Yes, it is mostly a moral issue.


Then I can't say anything more, because I respect that.


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