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Zorgman 12-18-2003 05:38 PM

Merry fucken christmas Platinum Bucks
 
Nice way of saying Merry Christmas.

= = = = = = = = = =
Hi ... Your Platinum Bucks account #### has been closed due to having a well below average conversion ratio.

You WILL be paid for all signups to date, but please remove all links.

Platinum Dan
= = = = = = = = = =

I have been with Platinumbucks for almost a year and made lots of money. Sure my clicks are not high but I make the sales.

MERRY FUCKEN CHRISTMAS!!

Ice 12-18-2003 05:40 PM

Are you kidding me? :1orglaugh

pamphage 12-18-2003 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zorgman
Nice way of saying Merry Christmas.

= = = = = = = = = =
Hi ... Your Platinum Bucks account #### has been closed due to having a well below average conversion ratio.

You WILL be paid for all signups to date, but please remove all links.

Platinum Dan
= = = = = = = = = =

I have been with Platinumbucks for almost a year and made lots of money. Sure my clicks are not high but I make the sales.

MERRY FUCKEN CHRISTMAS!!

what is well below average exactly?

JDog 12-18-2003 05:40 PM

Damn, sucks for you!

jDoG

WiredGuy 12-18-2003 05:46 PM

I don't see any problem here... basically they identified that they were unable to make a profit with you and needed to end the business relationship in order to remain profitable. You are being paid every penny owed until that email, so what's wrong?

WG

detoxed 12-18-2003 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
I don't see any problem here... basically they identified that they were unable to make a profit with you and needed to end the business relationship in order to remain profitable. You are being paid every penny owed until that email, so what's wrong?

WG

I just wonder if they pay per sale, how would conversion ratio have anything to do with how much profit they make?

Zorgman 12-18-2003 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by iceicebaby
Are you kidding me? :1orglaugh
Nope, I wouldn't joke about this type of thing.

what is well below average exactly?
I have no idea, but im it. I get a check almost every week and I sent an average of 500 to 1000 clicks every period.

aaron 12-18-2003 05:48 PM

That happened to me with WEG Cash a long time ago, I wasn't getting enough upsells from my j4f traffic :( now that I know a bit more, I wish I could promote them again :\

Mr.Soze 12-18-2003 05:49 PM

Was that the best answer they could come up with?

Maybe they aren't making enough from your exit traffic, since your conversion is so good......

Zorgman 12-18-2003 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
I don't see any problem here... basically they identified that they were unable to make a profit with you and needed to end the business relationship in order to remain profitable. You are being paid every penny owed until that email, so what's wrong?

WG

How can remain profitable be when I make sales at 1:400 with them? that's pretty normal.

I don't get it but I will remove all there links.

makefuckingmoney 12-18-2003 05:50 PM

Its probably your trial to full memberships..

lots of webmasters will play games and have people signup, teach them to cancel etc..

we have been studying our numbers a lot harder..

if you sent 50 trials..and 48 of them cancel..they aint gonna make their money back..

WiredGuy 12-18-2003 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by detoxed


I just wonder if they pay per sale, how would conversion ratio have anything to do with how much profit they make?

They're probably referring to conversions from trial to full members.

WG

WiredGuy 12-18-2003 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zorgman

How can remain profitable be when I make sales at 1:400 with them? that's pretty normal.

I don't get it but I will remove all there links.

See above, conversions from trial to full members is most likely the case.

Ice 12-18-2003 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zorgman

Nope, I wouldn't joke about this type of thing.

what is well below average exactly?
I have no idea, but im it. I get a check almost every week and I sent an average of 500 to 1000 clicks every period.

I have an account with them but not promoting them right now... I guess I should expect an email too :1orglaugh

pamphage 12-18-2003 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zorgman

Nope, I wouldn't joke about this type of thing.

what is well below average exactly?
I have no idea, but im it. I get a check almost every week and I sent an average of 500 to 1000 clicks every period.

so you were converting like 1:500 atleast and you got canned? bummer. guess they want better filtered traffic than that.

good thing nasty dollars don't care. i make a lot of money with them, but my conversion ratio is shit.

pamphage 12-18-2003 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by makefuckingmoney
Its probably your trial to full memberships..


good call. that must be what it is.

Zorgman 12-18-2003 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by makefuckingmoney
Its probably your trial to full memberships..

lots of webmasters will play games and have people signup, teach them to cancel etc..

we have been studying our numbers a lot harder..

if you sent 50 trials..and 48 of them cancel..they aint gonna make their money back..

Im not that low. I know the rules on this industry. I don't tell any surfer how to cancel their membership. That would be silly.

Fuck this, all links have been removed. Time to move on.

Funny how only the other day Platinum Dave was asking me to add more of their sites like college fuck tour to my sites because I was making the sales, now he closed it. Fucken great asshole.

I Am Saddam! 12-18-2003 05:59 PM

platinum shave like motherfuckers on the 4free program, you can see your money and watch it vanish

Holly 12-18-2003 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
I don't see any problem here... basically they identified that they were unable to make a profit with you and needed to end the business relationship in order to remain profitable. You are being paid every penny owed until that email, so what's wrong?

WG

Do you see a problem with them selling off our webmaster email addresses to spammers? Because I just got spammed for the fourth time in the last 24 hours to my Platinum Bucks email address. Yesterday my New Car was preauthorized from Fast Lane Loans twice, and today my New MasterCard was just authorized twice, as well.

It's nice to know who keeps our info confidential. :321GFY

Zorgman 12-18-2003 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by I Am Saddam!
platinum shave like motherfuckers on the 4free program, you can see your money and watch it vanish
Good point, I will kill those links too.

stevecore 12-18-2003 06:21 PM

sorry but this thread has not had enough positive posts for Platinum Bucks, i'm requesting it be closed.

WiredGuy 12-18-2003 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Holly
Do you see a problem with them selling off our webmaster email addresses to spammers? Because I just got spammed for the fourth time in the last 24 hours to my Platinum Bucks email address. Yesterday my New Car was preauthorized from Fast Lane Loans twice, and today my New MasterCard was just authorized twice, as well.

It's nice to know who keeps our info confidential. :321GFY

I was just referring to the termination of that webmaster. Naturally there's a certain level of privacy expected when dealing with sponsors.

WG

integrated 12-18-2003 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by stevecore
sorry but this thread has not had enough positive posts for Platinum Bucks, i'm requesting it be closed.
funny cause its true

:1orglaugh

I Am Saddam! 12-18-2003 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by stevecore
sorry but this thread has not had enough positive posts for Platinum Bucks, i'm requesting it be closed.
STFU Infedel

stevecore 12-18-2003 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by I Am Saddam!
STFU Infedel
get back in your hole!

Holly 12-18-2003 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy


I was just referring to the termination of that webmaster. Naturally there's a certain level of privacy expected when dealing with sponsors.

WG

Yeah, I know. I just decided to pull you into my rant cause it's your lucky day. ;-}

I was going to start a whole thread asking them WHY I'M GETTING CAR LOAN AND CREDIT CARD SHIT TO MY PLATINUMBUCKS@MYDOMAIN ACCOUNT, but this thread was already here so I decided to be lazy.

btw- clicktraq.com/rebuildornot.com - feel free to remove me :321GFY

Zorgman 12-19-2003 03:38 AM

This is the email i only got a week ago, now it looks personal to me but it could have been a mass email to all their members, so did anyone else get this?

I bolded and sized the most imported part of this email

= = = = = = = = = = = = =
Hey Dean,

Doug here again (re account ####). Well, another month has slid by. You were able to bring in a couple of sales, which is fantastic. But I KNOW we can do better!

Obviously you have a lot of space to fill with the scope of your sites, and I?ve noticed you?re missing one of our top converters . . . www.collegefucktour.com. Beyond that, everything looks good. If you have any questions, please feel free to drop me a line . . . I?m here to answer any questions you have about our programs, our top converting sites or even the weather here in Toronto. Never hesitate to contact me . . .

Cheers,
Platinum Doug
(his signature is an image)
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MeatAxe 12-19-2003 07:14 AM

that sucks......a lot of companies are doing this recently

Michael O 12-19-2003 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Holly
Yeah, I know. I just decided to pull you into my rant cause it's your lucky day. ;-}

I was going to start a whole thread asking them WHY I'M GETTING CAR LOAN AND CREDIT CARD SHIT TO MY PLATINUMBUCKS@MYDOMAIN ACCOUNT, but this thread was already here so I decided to be lazy.

btw- clicktraq.com/rebuildornot.com - feel free to remove me :321GFY


I got the same emails!
I used my normal email to sign up for platinum bucks so I canīt for sure tell its from them but very interesting.

Platinum Dave 12-19-2003 07:31 AM

Zorgman your account was closed because your conversion ratio from TRIAL to MEMBER was 19% compared to our company wide 35-37%

When we see numbers this low, we eventually find out the webmaster is cheating. In this case we didnt find anything so we paid you in FULL.

We told you we would pay you, so I dont see what the problem is here?

BlueFly 12-19-2003 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by makefuckingmoney
Its probably your trial to full memberships..

lots of webmasters will play games and have people signup, teach them to cancel etc..

we have been studying our numbers a lot harder..

if you sent 50 trials..and 48 of them cancel..they aint gonna make their money back..

I think that keeping the member should fall on the sponsor. If their quality is shit, and they do one update a month, no one is going to stay a member. That isn't our fault. My job is to get them hard and to the join page... After that, they are in the sponsors hands.

Zorgman 12-19-2003 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BlueFly
I think that keeping the member should fall on the sponsor. If their quality is shit, and they do one update a month, no one is going to stay a member. That isn't our fault. My job is to get them hard and to the join page... After that, they are in the sponsors hands.
I agree with you BlueFly, it's not the webmasters job to make sure the surfer continues their membership.

In this case it's Platinum Bucks that should look at their own sites and stop blaming people (like me) that don't have any interaction with their members.

Dave said he couldn't find any form of me cheating (which I don't) and yet he still cancelled my account.

I accept the fact that some webmasters cheat sponsors out of cash and when the proof it shown then it's good but there is no proof here, this was done on a whim!

Michael O 12-19-2003 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Platinum Dave
Zorgman your account was closed because your conversion ratio from TRIAL to MEMBER was 19% compared to our company wide 35-37%

When we see numbers this low, we eventually find out the webmaster is cheating. In this case we didnt find anything so we paid you in FULL.

We told you we would pay you, so I dont see what the problem is here?

Any comments on the email spam issue?

dotwind 12-19-2003 07:56 AM

you are better off sending your traffic somewhere else if your stats show 1:500 you are probably converting at 1:1500, we count second page my ass..:321GFY

Dragonsxxx 12-19-2003 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Platinum Dave
Zorgman your account was closed because your conversion ratio from TRIAL to MEMBER was 19% compared to our company wide 35-37%

When we see numbers this low, we eventually find out the webmaster is cheating. In this case we didnt find anything so we paid you in FULL.

We told you we would pay you, so I dont see what the problem is here?

I would like to know why the email accounts we signed up for your program receives spam..

Mutt 12-19-2003 08:14 AM

PlatinumBucks, two questions

1) why didn't you tell him in your kiss off email what conversion rate you were talking about and his % versus the program's average?

2) why didn't you address Holly's question regarding spam?


That said, Platinum Bucks and other PPS programs have the right to terminate somebody whose traffic doesn't convert from trial better than 30%. If the sites in the program are converting from trial poorly across all affiliates then yeah there's a problem with the sites themselves and they won't be in business much longer.

this is a trend even with good sites, retention isn't great - at some point pay per signup commissions will have to drop to $20 max. At that point I think you'll see a stampede to revshare programs with exclusive content - it will be a psychological trigger I think - people just can't accept $15 or $20 per signup after years of $30 to $45 per signup.

Michael O 12-19-2003 10:00 AM

Bump for Dave since I would like to know about the spam as well!

Dragonsxxx 12-19-2003 11:31 AM

bump

BradShaw 12-19-2003 11:34 AM

I do not blame plat bucks at all. Smart biz. Dave, wish my shit would reatain at 35% +, who should I fire?

ElvisManson 12-19-2003 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw
I do not blame plat bucks at all. Smart biz. Dave, wish my shit would reatain at 35% +, who should I fire?
the person running your members area

:winkwink:


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