Indian truckers in Iraq say Americans are cowards
 

American valour? All hogwash, say Indian truckers

Indian truck drivers who returned after working in Iraq have a poor impression of American soldiers and their valour.

According to their accounts, whenever armed militants attacked a convoy of trucks ferrying supplies to US troops in Iraq, the escort vehicles carrying American soldiers, instead of protecting the convoy, would be the first to flee leaving the unarmed and hapless truck drivers to fend for themselves.

"As far as their bravery is concerned, the less said the better. When a convoy was attacked, the escort vehicles would simply speed off in different directions and leave the hapless truck drivers to fend for themselves," he said.

http://in.rediff.com/news/2004/aug/02iraq2.htm

First they take America's jobs, now this? :1orglaugh

Yeah we need more movies like Black Hawk Down

Waht a bunch of crap. lol

:ak47:

why is it so hard to believe?

sounds like it could happen since the US will only attack weak and wimpy countries and always backs down(by diplomatic means) when faced against an enemy that might pose a slight threat.(ie: China, N Korea etc.)

The soldiers are probably just following orders.:2 cents:

.. and what you have better info then the guys that were there?

Americans aren't cowards, this country will beat the living hell out of any fucking country out there. flame away.:ak47:

:1orglaugh

Keep reasurring yourself.

I take it that you forgot about WWII

The germans we not quite a weak country. In fact, they had managed to take most of europe. And the Japanese we not actually a weak country either. The americans attacked both of them..

same here
http://www.usaflags.net/images/Img2.gif

ROFL ... Sad ...

The world don't see americans the same way anymore

I meant the recent US admin (last 40 or so years;after the advent of NUKES)
The reason they got involved before was because they had no choice; what I am refering to now is how they always talked tough against N Korea and China but don't do anything about it but when faced with an opponent that has no nukes(and virtually a washed up military) they have no problem attacking them(kinda sounds cowardly to me)

Yeah, and walk down the streets of America and it looks the same as it did 50-60 years ago huh? Right... if we cant beat some guys hiding in caves then we sure as hell cant beat a strong country.

I remember the stories about the Italian campaign from my grandfather who was fighting with the Free French Forces in World War Two. He had the same complaint about U.S. soldiers - cowardly and too cautious. He said the only U.S. forces that fought well in the mountains of Central Italy were the Brazilian regiments fighting under U.S. flag.

Personally, I believe most U.S. soldiers are brave; but, why die for a war in which you don't believe?

Don't you just love it when bedwetters from Canada call Americans cowards. I sure would like to see one of you call them cowards to their face.

:Graucho

actions speak louder than words... and the US actions say volumes:1orglaugh

So? Who care !?

Canada... LOL

US.. LOL

and I think the majority of the world agrees with me:Graucho

that should be Bush...lol he is the root at the axis of evil...lol

Yes I stand corrected but if the US citizens vote him in again then its US...lol

what was that saying by BUSH:

"Fool me once shame on me; fool me twice....:1orglaugh

I take it you know absolutely NOTHING about WWII.. I am not denying that the US made the difference that probably won the war, but when did they join the conflict and why don't you quote some fact about how many troops they sent in?.

That an they beat the japanese by murdering nearly 200 000 innocent civilians you jackass

Doctor Dre:

Think you hit that nail on the head. :thumbsup

Any bullshit from the US these days is... well just that. There is a serious credibility problem and that will not disappear too quickly.

For all those in this thread who raise the WW2 issue and "how we won the war" - get an education and some balance.

WW2 was a "world war" and not a "US war" and no - the US did not "win" WW2 or WW1 for that matter.

The US soldiers that fought in these wars would be fucking ashamed at the bullshit spouted by some kids on this subject - especially the "kids" who have an "ignorance and arrogance factor" of 10.

Sad shit...

America is the epitome of cowardice.

I forgot about the fact that the US is the only country in the world to use WMD and they even used it on 200,000 innocent civilians!

How ironic that they are now bombing innocent civilians in the fallous belief that they are preventing someone else from doing as they did. (You can't get any more cowardly than that)

Take our jobs?wtf?!Fucking retarded american patriots.

Visit this link and clear your mind up: http://maddox.xmission.com/c.cgi?u=walmart

Why are you so proud of your fucked up country?Because you get outcasted if you aren't?I've never seen any reason to be proud of a country where you're born or life in beside you want to manipulate people.

IF shit were to go down and your country were being invaded... You would be the first to suck our dick and beg for help.

:1orglaugh

Joe Citizen:

Whoa! :winkwink: Gotta think on that one! :-)

Mmmm... as a nation, don't think the US has much to be proud of as far as "conflicts" are concerned. It is a neurotic nation with a preoccupation about "enemies" and wonderment as to "why they hate us" and also inbred with some belief in "success" which, in turn, seems to mean "greed" to some.

In the middle of that looney culture, there are many very sane folks both within and outside government and many honorable men among em.

As far as "cowardice" is concerned, - dunno if that is the word. There sure is, as has been demonstrated in Iraq, this "run and cover your ass" when in any "actual" fighting (ie not some "press-a-button-from-50-miles-away-warfare"). Who knows if that is cowardice, - there is something to be said for covering your ass to fight another day. A commander may call it "strategy" tho this does not seem to be a strategy adopted by some forces from other nations serving in Iraq.

Frankly, ya can't expect much more. Many of these guys, irrespective of their real age, are kids. They have little experience of "war" and given moral boosts to say "we are the best" etc. - but in real life were donut store managers etc. This shows up badly in any "relationships" with others - they have no experience to call upon to have any relationship and the troops of a few other nations "appear" to be doing better at this. Again, as with people in general, there are many excellent "real soliders" within the US troops and no way do these guys need the others to be pulling em down.

I find it hard to generalize and say "America is the epitome of cowardice" - US folks are not any different to anyone else. What you "may" be saying is the US govt and the foreign policies they pursue are "cowardly"? If so, yea, they are cowardly, greedy, arrogant, bullies and loads more "words". No other nation comes near em for total shit in this area and, almost without exception, other counties know this and hence the credibility gap.

I have to dissagree with this post because basically your saying an american should just live like a po fuck because otherwie the po fuck will take his job. How is that fair?

If he was willing to take less money living in america would make him poor. So ok he's not taking his job but just his $$ and american goodies.

Bullies are ALWAYS cowards and the USA is the world's greatest bully.

The movie "black hawk down" is an EXTREMELY sanitized version of what went down in Somalia.

Most of the over 900 somalis killed were women and children that formed human shields around the militia.

Those heroic actors would not look so heroic if you saw them unloading 50 cal. gatling guns into crowds of women and children now would they?

Joe Citizen:

Well :1orglaugh

That is the mentality mentioned in the previous post :-)

I seriously doubt I'd be running to the US for a solution to shit going down in my country - that would just compound the shit!

This is what happens when a supposedly mature nation spends 30 cents of it's tax dollar on arms, but does not realise that arms on the level they cost, are not the solution to many problems.

I'd ask, when they fuck is the US gonna get bin Laden and when will they have *any* intelligence services? And.. does that come before providing a decent education and healthcare to their citizens?

PS... There was a time when "shit" happened in the country I'm in - almost all other nations immediately pledged aircraft and support - the US sent a telegram :winkwink:

PPS... That telegram has been framed and is now in a national museum as a reminder of who your friends are.

Please build logic sentences, I can only vaguely estimate what you want to tell me :1orglaugh

This all humors me greatly, FIRST we are mindless and hateful killers who wrecklessly enter into wars with anyone just to throw our weight around like world wide bullies and NOW ALL of us, military or not, are cowards.....


If the soldiers are told not to enter into conflict to save the lives of these truckers then they will follow those orders, bravado will not do anything for you when you and your whole platoon are court marshalled for disobeying an order.
Military tactics....ever heard of them, this is when you do something other than just line troops up and fire at anything that moves. I think that the record speaks for itself, there have been more wins than losses in our history.

The bomb was dropped because without complete and utter dehabilitation of an enemy with the honor and tenacity of the Japanese there would have been no stopping them. Please do not equate your sense of honor or fighting in bars or when someone hits on your girl with that of the Arabs or Asians who fight with abandon of personal safety in the persuit of honor from conflict. That mentality is unstoppable without doing something like showing that all will be wiped out if conflict persists and even then sometimes it will not work. It is simular to fighting a person on PCP, trust me you either destroy them or they will keep coming and overpower you. Not saying it was a good thing at all, but I understand.

America has not had a problem with armies using conventional warfare, this situation is simular Vietnam, a smaller army using hit and run guerilla tactics and chain of command ordering that conflicts be limited to fire only when fired on not active hunt and kill like wars against invading armies like the Germans.

Korea and China are super powers who will have to be dealt with on a much larger scale including years of warfare, large loss of life and also major threat of nuclear warfare, you guys are much closer to Asia than we are you should be thanking your lucky stars America has not gotten into it with any Asian countries and is trying to use diplomacy. I suppose China will stop at assimilating India, Hong Kong and Tibet RIGHT, it is not like they will need more land after that or that they are a conquiring society, no not at all.....

Once again I see a bunch of people who studied conflict from a history book and not from soldiers or military tacticians and so you have a diplomatic and thus unrealistic idea of what happened in the war rooms and on the front lines. I am not saying war is a good thing but sometimes it happens and when it does you either fight or you die.

Far-L:

Agree... that movie has nada to do with any reality - it's just more "palatible propaganda" and might just as well be a disney movie about some nice furry critters that have human attributes.

The "Green Berret" movie with John Wayne was another like "Black Hawk" - they even consulted the President/Pentagon to keep away from all "contentious" areas and give a "nice" look to the Vietnam disaster.

Post your country and also a picture of this telegram, this is not as much a challange to back up what you say as much as a wish for me to eductate myself on things that are not always found in our books. Please share with us the name of the country and also this paper we sent. Thanks

Americans are all heroes

Some Indian truck drivers had been caught by people opposed to American occupation but were let off after being beaten up and in return for a promise not to return to Iraq.


I'd be brave too if all I had to do was promise not to come back whenever I was captured :1orglaugh

hehe