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Adult Site Traffic 04-13-2005 07:22 AM

Epass, what the hell? Is it true that you're dictating programs minimum payouts now?
 
I have a program that I sent 354,000 hits of gallery traffic to (their hosted materials) and they converted like absolute shit (I have screenshots). Basically, I wanted to cut my ties with them totally and never promote them again, which I have and collect my 1:3160 ratio earnings of $40.00 and cut my losses on the $177.00 in traffic.

They tell me that epass has a min threshold agreement of $100.00 payment.

So I'm asking, why (when) does epass get to dictate what a company pays me as a minimum payout threshold?

So EPASS says I haven't met the min to pay, so I should toss an additional $375.00 at this sponsor to hit payout?

FWIW, I've never heard of epass setting a minimum, is this new?


groark 04-13-2005 07:23 AM

Well then get a check

Snake Doctor 04-13-2005 07:24 AM

Most programs have a minimum of 50 or 100....the exception is ccbill programs where the minimum is 25.

At most places there's a minimum purchase to use a credit card, etc etc

Why not just ask for a check?

Adult Site Traffic 04-13-2005 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by groark
Well then get a check

It's an idea, but getting a check in Mexico is iffy and by the time they get here and back to the bank, sometimes they're already expired :)

.

Adult Site Traffic 04-13-2005 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lenny2
Most programs have a minimum of 50 or 100....the exception is ccbill programs where the minimum is 25.

At most places there's a minimum purchase to use a credit card, etc etc

Why not just ask for a check?

The point is that they say epass dictates the min payout, but I've never heard of that. I have epass sponsors paying me on $20.00

JFPdude 04-13-2005 07:27 AM

You didn't do a good job hiding the name and ICQ number of the person you were chatting with.

hydro 04-13-2005 07:29 AM

I don't think epass dictates anything, maybe your sponsor just wants you to send more traffic or simply just doesnt want to pay you :(

Adult Site Traffic 04-13-2005 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFPdude
You didn't do a good job hiding the name and ICQ number of the person you were chatting with.

Heh, it's early. I missed that. I fixed it now :)

Adult Site Traffic 04-13-2005 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hydro
I don't think epass dictates anything, maybe your sponsor just wants you to send more traffic or simply just doesnt want to pay you :(

I think that I agree with you :( There are no epass set minimums that I ever heard of.

XxXotic 04-13-2005 07:39 AM

i just got paid less then 100$ to my epass from a program a few days ago...

Rui 04-13-2005 07:39 AM

tip you forgot to "erase" the "nickname" part...

Anyway Topbucks are good people :)

DarkJedi 04-13-2005 07:48 AM

Your sponsor is bullshiting you.

FlashCash sends out $20 payments thru epass.

Project-Shadow 04-13-2005 07:51 AM

They made a deal with epass, it's not epassporte's decision. At least thats how I read it.

Crypt 04-13-2005 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adult Site Traffic
I have a program that I sent 354,000 hits of gallery traffic to (their hosted materials) and they converted like absolute shit (I have screenshots). Basically, I wanted to cut my ties with them totally and never promote them again, which I have and collect my 1:3160 ratio earnings of $40.00 and cut my losses on the $177.00 in traffic.

They tell me that epass has a min threshold agreement of $100.00 payment.

So I'm asking, why (when) does epass get to dictate what a company pays me as a minimum payout threshold?

So EPASS says I haven't met the min to pay, so I should toss an additional $375.00 at this sponsor to hit payout?

FWIW, I've never heard of epass setting a minimum, is this new?


Do a big party at your home.
Ask everyone at your door to signup for this site to join the party.
Reach the minimum payout.
Get your Epass.
Never promote them again.

Next :)

LauraLee 04-13-2005 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rui
tip you forgot to "erase" the "nickname" part...

Anyway Topbucks are good people :)

It wasn't topbucks, it was me :)
Adult Site Traffic is correct, he is owed $40 and change. He is also correct when mentioning that our epassporte minimum payout is $100.

What i am a little confused about is, why he is coming to the boards asking how many other programs are "dictated" by Epass as to what the minimum is to be set at? After a long conversation and having to clarify myself, i thought we were clear on things..

When i was told that he would no longer be sending traffic (ie: would not be hitting the $100 min.) i replied that a check would be sent.
This webmaster then told me that he would really "hate to see it get messy".
(i obviously knew he was referring to taking it to the boards)

I spoke with our accounting department and they replied that yes, he would be sent a check. When i relayed this information back to him this morning he replied with:

clickhit/TCG (09:33 AM) :
Ok.
That's fine. I will have more than $40 worth of fun with your screenshots on
GFY


At this point he then accuses me of lying about TCG and Epass agreeing on the minimum payouts. I can see where he is going with this one, so i clarify with:

Laura Lee (09:47 AM) :
Accounting has stated that the minimum payout is set for $100, I am confident in assuming this was agreed upon by BOTH parties when we began utilizing their service.
As a program owner (as you mention above) I would have also assumed that you would understand that, to have and run a successful business/company you need to have rules. But since you have the ?Look at me i can make threats and I am the exception to the rule" attitude, I guess those rules don?t apply to you??


Needless to say we went back and forth and wasted even more time (just like i am doing right now, haha).

I just don't get it, why do some people feel as though they don't have to follow the rules, yet everyone else should :disgust
LL

LauraLee 04-13-2005 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJedi
Your sponsor is bullshiting you.

FlashCash sends out $20 payments thru epass.

DarkJedi,
I never said Epass can't/doesn't payout less than $100 minimum.
I said that we (Epass and TCG) decided OUR minimum payout would be $100 for epass.

Interestingly enough he never even gave us a chance to "make an exception for him". As the minute i mentioned check he threw threats at me about making a mess on the boards!
I could be off here, but in my book that is not the most conducive way to get people to help you. When we didn't bow down to his immature threats he then tried his best to twist my words. At one point he was even trying to say i told him to go out and spend $300+ so that he could make the minimum payout :helpme

Anyways, sorry everyones time was wasted on this one..
LL

Tuna 04-13-2005 08:15 AM

TCGs minimum payout is $100. plain and simple. why would it be any different if paid thru epassporte?

TDF 04-13-2005 08:16 AM

much ado about nothing

DarkJedi 04-13-2005 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LauraLee
DarkJedi,
I never said Epass can't/doesn't payout less than $100 minimum.
I said that we (Epass and TCG) decided OUR minimum payout would be $100 for epass.

Got confused by the story.
Didn't intend to bash you, sorry.

Jay 04-13-2005 08:25 AM

There is a reason for the $100.00 min payout on ePassporte, because we are charged $2.00 for each transaction (payment) to webmasters. So to avoid making alot of small payments we set the min to $100.00 for ePassporte payments.

I was the one who set the min payout since I handle webmaster payouts. LL and accounting are simply following the guidelines we have set up, for a reason. So you can blame me, not them.

Please hit me up at 274-350-455

Jay

LauraLee 04-13-2005 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuna
TCGs minimum payout is $100. plain and simple. why would it be any different if paid thru epassporte?

No, our minimum payout for Epassporte is $100
Our minimum payout for a check is $5

When he told me he was owed $40 and change and that he was not going to be able to make the minimum i said "ok, a check will be sent for the remainder of what is owed".

I guess a check was not what he wanted to hear because he immediately told me he would be disparaging me on the boards.

He was and is going to be paid.. he just blew up when he realized threating me would not get the rules bent for him.

LL

LauraLee 04-13-2005 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJedi
Got confused by the story.
Didn't intend to bash you, sorry.

:thumbsup

FreeOnes 04-13-2005 08:30 AM

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BabeHunter 04-13-2005 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FreeOnes
whoehoe
40 bucks drama on GFY

:small-smi

:1orglaugh

Rui 04-13-2005 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FreeOnes
whoehoe
40 bucks drama on GFY

:small-smi

There is a first one for everything

Laura - I confused you with another Lee ;)

DarkJedi 04-13-2005 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FreeOnes
whoehoe
40 bucks drama on GFY

:small-smi

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Boss Traffic Jim 04-13-2005 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FreeOnes
whoehoe
40 bucks drama on GFY

:small-smi

I agree, it's totally funny that this AdultSiteTreaafic guy would go public about 40 bucks and at the same time he is the one that either can't read and/or thinks rules should be altered to suit his needs :1orglaugh

dirtydesignz 04-13-2005 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adult Site Traffic
I have a program that I sent 354,000 hits of gallery traffic to (their hosted materials) and they converted like absolute shit (I have screenshots). Basically, I wanted to cut my ties with them totally and never promote them again, which I have and collect my 1:3160 ratio earnings of $40.00 and cut my losses on the $177.00 in traffic.

Sent 354k! Ummm, this is about a sponsor that obviously isn't converting. So a guy wants to get the $40 he earned so that he doesn't have to waste anymore time or money with this company.

So what if it's $40... it shouldn't matter if it's $4 or $400. From reading the icq message it sure looks as though it is being said that they can't pay because they have a minimum set up with epass so they aren't allowed to pay.

Alot of people sign up to sponsors that pay with epass for a specific purpose(like not wanting a check to be sent to Mexico). Come on...sending that much traffic and getting those kinds of results are reason enough to just pay and be done with this. So what if it costs you $2 to send an epass payment, big deal.

dirtydesignz 04-13-2005 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Afrin
I agree, it's totally funny that this AdultSiteTreaafic guy would go public about 40 bucks and at the same time he is the one that either can't read and/or thinks rules should be altered to suit his needs :1orglaugh

Come on...sending that much traffic and getting those kinds of results are reason enough to just pay and be done with this.

But maybe there is a reason they have a $100 payout, maybe it's because alot of webmasters don't reach payout and never say a word because of 'rules'. :winkwink:

skillfull 04-13-2005 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LauraLee
No, our minimum payout for Epassporte is $100
Our minimum payout for a check is $5

When he told me he was owed $40 and change and that he was not going to be able to make the minimum i said "ok, a check will be sent for the remainder of what is owed".

I guess a check was not what he wanted to hear because he immediately told me he would be disparaging me on the boards.

He was and is going to be paid.. he just blew up when he realized threating me would not get the rules bent for him.

LL


i guess you dont know shit about Mexico postal service

he will NEVER receive a check if you sent it by mail
i would be pissed too

LauraLee 04-13-2005 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skillfull
i guess you dont know shit about Mexico postal service

he will NEVER receive a check if you sent it by mail
i would be pissed too

To answer your question, no i didn't know "shit" about the Mexican postal service.
With that being said, all he had to do after i mentioned sending a check would have been to EXPLAIN to me the postal issue in his area
NOT
immediately threaten to disparage myself and tcg publicly. geez.

Guess what? Had he not handled himself in such a dispicable way, he would have been sent the monies owed via Epass. We always try to work with our Webmasters.

LL

Jay 04-13-2005 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirtydesignz
Alot of people sign up to sponsors that pay with epass for a specific purpose(like not wanting a check to be sent to Mexico). Come on...sending that much traffic and getting those kinds of results are reason enough to just pay and be done with this. So what if it costs you $2 to send an epass payment, big deal.

We understand that, which is why we have that payment option. LL and our accounting dept are simply following the guidelines we have in place. Payouts to several hundred webmasters, weekly, at $2.00 each will add up, that is the ONLY reason we have a $100.00 min payout.

I posted my ICQ once, here is it again....274-350-455, AST contact me so we can resolve this $40.00 payment issue.

Jay

FreeHugeMovies 04-13-2005 09:38 AM

I guess AST has made his daily stupid drama post for today. All over 40 dollars. =]

http://trafficcashgold.com/terms.php

You may request and receive payment via "Epassporte," however, payments for Epassporte are available only for payments of $100.00 or more in a given pay period.

BradM 04-13-2005 09:54 AM

AST that is so damn slimy.

Props to LL for keeping it professional.

justsexxx 04-13-2005 10:00 AM

Read the terms next time. And when you had been nice, and explained your "mexico" situation, they might have paid you by epass. Hopefully they won't now.

And when the postmans in Mexico don't know how to deliver a check, setup a US bankaccount, and have your checks send to that address. Problem solved.

NEXT

Twe Russ 04-13-2005 10:02 AM

I would forget the damn 40.00 and other minor losses and move on with my life,
you could have made that damn money back with the time you spent on here
bitching about nothing, fucking pathetic.

justsexxx 04-13-2005 10:03 AM

postmen that is

Kimmykim 04-13-2005 10:04 AM

ePassporte doesn't have a required minimum in order to make the payouts. TCG, being one of the few sponsors that apparently does not deduct the transfer fee from the payout, doesn't want to make payments less than $100 so that they are not wasting money.

Laura Lee gets stuck in the middle and certainly doesn't deserve that.

AST, it seems that you're stirring shit out of nothing today, starting with the thread title.

I really think you owe Laura Lee an apology.

BVF 04-13-2005 10:08 AM

setup a PO box in San Diego.

dirtydesignz 04-13-2005 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradM
AST that is so damn slimy.

Props to LL for keeping it professional.

Slimy? He wants his money after sending 354 THOUSAND. 354,000 . 354k :(


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