Let's discuss a few facts.....AtlasChris....(long post)
 

Is AtlasChris a pussy?

No.....But neither am I.

Did AtlasChris get his ass kicked?

No.

Did I put an end to a fucked up situation?

Yes.

Is AtlasChris a fucking piece of shit who should be banned from ALL webmaster events and blackballed from our industry?

Yes.


I've read the other threads. I've seen people defending this guy. I've seen him flat out lie about what happened and I've seen him say that his actions were not of his normal character. That is all bullshit.

Christian spent the better part of the day drinking and asking multiple for cocaine. Along with that he was making his sexual desires for Arika well known to others. He was specifically told that NewBreed was Arika's husband and that baddog and myself are very protective of her. He was told to stay the fuck away.....All this BEFORE his actions started bothering Arika.

A couple hours of "stalking" and "harassing" later.....I ran into Christian, Arika, and NewBreed in the elevator. I shook Christian's hand as he glared at me and said that we have some bad blood and that he has a "special hello message" from KingAsher of Matrix Content. Not wanting to create any problems, I turned my back on him and walked out of the elevator.

Now.....As far as I recall, I had no beef with Christian at that point but Asher is a chicken shit punk who backed down from me in Vegas then told people he was going to kick my ass. Now, according to his buddy Christian, he has suggested that Christian take care of me for him.

Again.....Asher is a fucking pussy. :321GFY

Moving on....

Arika and I go into my room and Christian decided to follow her in and try to shut the door leaving NewBreed outside. I turned to him, told him he was not welcome, then showed him out while asking him if he had a "fucking problem" to which his scoffed and I shut the door in his face.

So, we ditched the prick. A bit later he showed up once again.

Making a long story a little shorter........

I specifically saw Christian trying to signal Arika away from the group. When she refused, he came over and sat on the other side of her. He was trying to grope her and asked her 3 times if she wanted to go somewhere to be alone with him. By this time, Arika had already filled me in on his comments of the bathroom and his aggressive sexual attention. I asked her if she wanted me to say something to him and she said she didn't know.

I took her hand and started walking towards NewBreed. She stopped so I turned to see what was up and Christian had grabbed her other arm and was pulling her back.

I had to yell at Christian 4 times to let go of her. Finally he did...BUT...Instead of dropping the issue, he decided to puff up and bump chest to chest with me. I dropped my binder and pushed him back. He took a swing at me, I ducked and took him to the ground. As I was throwing my first punch, sicone and the others jumped in. NOBODY got their ass beat but as Christian's arm brushed over my head, he hit my sunburn and peeled some skin off my scalp.

Hotel management refused to do anything about the situation and they allowed Christian to return to the bar and continue drinking.

Over the next hour or two, Christian continued to return to the courtyard to harass myself and most likely Arika too. RevSand stepped away many times to keep him away.

Now, there you have the facts of THAT night.


Here is another fun fact.....

In Phoenix, Christian decided to play golf in his hotel room. In doing so, He hit several balls which ended up stuck in the wall. This kind of destructive behavior and overall drunken stupidity is obviously not welcome at our industry's gatherings.


To Faye, Dave, and all the others behind the Cybernext show: I don't feel that I owe any apologies for my actions but I wish to make it perfectly clear that they were not meant to be disrespectful to you or the group in any way, shape, or form.

The reasoning behind my counter aggression was to get this asshole away from Arika and since walking away was not working and Christian decided to get physical with me, I felt I had no choice. Backing down was not an option for me.

At the end of the day, Christian was gone and Arika was happier and that's really all that matters to me.

Sig spot... extreme converts!

damn, sounds like christian needs a fucking aa meeting

sorry to hear that you, arika, newbreed and others had to deal with an asshole like that at an industry event...it is people like him that will get us banned from hotels in the future...

I was going to get to a lot of the finer points tomorrow, but Aaron beat me to it here. Thanks again Aaron for everything, hopefully things will be a little more clear to those who don't have the first clue as to the whole story.

you gotta do what you gotta do aaron.. I would have backed you 100% in your actions... I do not know him but I know if you asked him many times and he kept saying that to her he needed a lesson in reality that she did not want him there

Sometimes you can't walk away. Good lookin' out.

Beh... Sounds like the guy is a drunken ass... good that somebody taught him to keep his hands to himself..

this got me....how the fuck do people let this go on????

reminds of that one show where girls where peeing in glasses in the corner and drinking their own pee...but they missed the glasses most of the time and peed on the hotel floor

Long post is right!

Call me when you get back to LA bro!

This is going to get big.

when was this and I missed it?

a year or two ago...there were pics and all from it...girls pissing in glasses, but missing the glasses....and ended up peeing all over the convention show floor...fucking disgusting to drink piss in the first place, but to pee on a convention floor for attention...scum of the earth

I'm in L.A. right now. :)

I can't imagine why the hotel staff did not do anything about it. And as someone posted on another thread they didn't want to get cops involved because they were afraid it would put a negative light on the industry...LOL..this shit is exactly what the police are for.

I go to these shows to visit friends, make new ones and get biz done. If you go to party...fine...but if you can't control yourself then stay the fuck home and do some growing up.

That was on the GFY yacht a couple of years ago, not in a hotel :winkwink:

I agree with you though, this type of shit needs to stop, we had not-so-wiseman throwing punches and chair out of hotel windows at the last Florida show, others walking around the hotel and show floor with coke plastered all over their faces, laptops being stolen from people who throw first class parties at teir own expense, models being 'hit on' and groped by company reps, now this shit with Arika.

Whats it actually going to take before some of these show organizers actually realize that the industry is full of juvenile children who have no place in this industry?

AVN have already raised their ticket prices for the Florida show, that *might* keep some of the delinquents away but realistically, until these sows start charging thousands per head, its going to happen unless, as an industry, we do something about it.

Hell im the first to admit i have made an ass out of myself at the shows (several times) but not at the expense of others physical bodies or by doing anything illegal.

Its most likely going to take someone getting seriously hurt or worse, killed at a convention for the event organizers to take this shit seriously, unfortunate but true :(

Regards,

Lee

I asked for the Police to be called, the hotel manager failed to call.

If the police had been called, it's likely that both of us would have gone to jail.

I would definitely go over the managements head and make a complaint to the home office....hint that you're considering suing *even though you aren't really* and then let the "manager" spend the rest of the year looking for a new job.

Exactly. I think it's also important to mention that there were other women put into the same position AFTER this was all reported to the hotel.

I highly doubt it. Even then...sorry Aaron I think it's a great thing you've done...but the choice to call the police on the ass that started on this is Arika's regardless of the outcome.

You were defending her against molestation bordering on sexual assault...so I doubt you would have gone to jail.

Which is why I would have just called 911 myself.

So people go to jail...better than letting some drunked up perv go around attempting to date rape his way through the hotel.

Aaron no need to say sorry you did what any real man would have done in that situation. I know i would have done the same thing as i've always been protective of women as I was raised by my mother and 2 older sisters. Arika is a very nice young lady and I thank you for doing what needed to be done. Sorry that your sunburn got hurt in the scuffle. Put some lotion on it and feel better and I hope one of these days we meet at a show and I can shake your hand and buy you a drink. You have earned my respect.

Arika seems like a sweetheart that didn't deserve any of this stress but lets look at the facts...

A drunk guy sexually harassed a woman and another guy threw his ass on the ground...


WHY IS THIS SUCH A DEBATE???

I just saw a dude get his skull bounced off the pavement 15 times for the same shit last week at a nightclub here in AZ... lets stop making this such an issue.. its not like somebody got killed or raped.

wow this thread sure is moving fast for this time of the morning

Glad your safe AaronM.
Also glad ya helped out Arika, I spoke to Newbreed some about it all.

If you're going to be in the Valley tomorrow - holler at me.

I'm going to be in Chatsworth around noon - 1pm or 2pm

Hit me on the 2-way!

:)

I'd have to agree... with as often as this happens it barely needs one thread, let alone 10.

Nothing against Arika at all as this isn't her fault, but if a girl can't handle herself and the others around her at a show to her own satisfaction she might be best served to stay away from the photo ops. Or maybe stick to the shows with the more mature crowd (Negril, etc..)

It's a shitty situation but it's not going to go away by calling the cops or throwing somebody to the ground. We'll have these exact same stories the next go around at Vegas in January.

harassing women, golfing in his room... looks like somebody needs to learn how to act his age.

Sounds like a pussy to me... any guy that has to resort to shit like that deserves to get his ass beat. From the impresion I got while reading StuartD's thread, I figured it was just some random walk by ass slaping... But there was obviously more than that going on.

This guy sounds like a real creep, and a threat to any woman. I'd say he should be barred from events... He's damn lucky he's not in jail.

It's also interesting to note that when a female has a bit too much to drink at a show and crawls into bed with somebody they shouldn't have and it later comes up on the board (god forbid!) or in private circles the other females are very quick to point out that "mistakes happen" and "we all do things we regret when we drink too much" yet when a guy does what may come naturally after a day of heavy drinking in the sun everyone is moving to castrate him and ban him from all future events...

Double standard or genuine concern for the girl's safety?

about what? all I saw was bullshit coming from him

well good job aaron.

can you get off my lap now please, my legs are going numb

Hotel management did nothing? Must have been a shitty hotel... anyway Aaron I think it's great you stepped up and took care of the situation, I'm also glad nobody got physically hurt.

I hope Atlas does the right thing and ditch Chris because if they don't this will haunt them for a long time.

Keep your bullshit out of my thread. We are talking about this situation, not anther one. If a drunk girl forces a guy into bed at the next show then we can discuss your concerns.

Until then.....Stick to the issue at hand.

I am lost, and too lazy to ask Aaron myself, when were the cops requested? Before or after the take down?

Why make a new thread about it?

What "may come naturally" ????
Give me a break... there's a huge difference between someone forcing themself on a women, and a drunk woman making her own decisions (bad or not) and crawling into bed with a willing guy.

Why troll my thread and question me?

Who the fuck are you to question my actions?

Fuck off. :321GFY

I doubt I will be near the valley but I'll hit you up anyway. I will be in the valley for a few days in a week or so.....I have a lot of shooting to do before then though.