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Mr.Fiction 04-23-2002 04:14 AM

Round 2: APIC Attacks Lensman / AP Publicly on YNOT Board!
 
http://www.ynotmasters.com/chat/chat.cgi?T=General

Here is an example of the theft of property that AMATEURPAGES supports and refuses to do anything about.
LENSMAN I assume is a photographer? or?
What photographer doesn't recognize Playboys images??
Yet 20 emails later he still wants proof???

Nothing but stall tactics and refusal to co-operate.
As for Stan, the site is down because someone higher than you knows what they are doing. VERIO had to be notified
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FORWARDED TO PLAYBOY & CMMG
SPONSORED AND SUPPORTED BY AMATEURPAGES
10 notices ignored.

(list of URL's here)

APIC ( steve easton ) | Profile | Contact | Apic-Worldwide
04/23/2002 05:12:01 EDT Post # 51087 IP: 209.86.163.95

http://www.ynotmasters.com/chat/chat.cgi?T=General

Slick 04-23-2002 04:41 AM

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pornJester 04-23-2002 05:10 AM

i hate unthreaded boards :BangBang:

chodadog 04-23-2002 05:55 AM

APIC are a bunch of fucking 'tards.

chodadog 04-23-2002 05:56 AM

LENSMAN FOR PRESIDENT!!!

Ok, i just want a fucking mousepad already!

FATPad 04-23-2002 06:33 AM

I used to think APIC was a good idea, but until it's run by someone with some degree of professionalism it's just going to be a joke.

Someone wants to help them, asks for info and is refused and slammed as if they're hiding something. *shakes head*

playa 04-23-2002 07:02 AM

LOL,, like lensman really has a problem with terminating cheaters accounts,,,

roadtrip 04-23-2002 07:18 AM

Lens, don't sweat the YNOT the board.

They say they're so anti child porn yet their top
banner ad is always Club Seventeen. The YNOT
network is profiting from child porn, they'll get
their's in the end.

Let it roll off your back, we KNOW you're solid!

Corona 04-23-2002 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by roadtrip
Lens, don't sweat the YNOT the board.

They say they're so anti child porn yet their top
banner ad is always Club Seventeen. The YNOT
network is profiting from child porn, they'll get
their's in the end.

Club Seventeen is not CP.

I hope you have a real example of how YNOT profits from CP before you slander them.

mule 04-23-2002 07:31 AM

Yep, all Club Seventeen models are 18+
Payserve is a respectable company

Dualcpu 04-23-2002 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by roadtrip
Lens, don't sweat the YNOT the board.

They say they're so anti child porn yet their top
banner ad is always Club Seventeen. The YNOT
network is profiting from child porn, they'll get
their's in the end.

Let it roll off your back, we KNOW you're solid!

1) Club Seventeen has no underage models
2) What has YNOT got to do with this?
It is something between mister Lensman and APIC.

Some people don't think before they speak/write.

DTK 04-23-2002 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by FATPad
I used to think APIC was a good idea, but until it's run by someone with some degree of professionalism it's just going to be a joke.

:thumbsup

roadtrip 04-23-2002 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Corona


Club Seventeen is not CP.

I hope you have a real example of how YNOT profits from CP before you slander them.

A North American selling access to pictures of those
under the age of 18 is a crime. I don't care what
Holland's rules are, YNOT is based in the U.S.A.

Also since this is in print, it would be libel, not slander.
However since it's Club Seventeen's practice is to
promote they have 17 year old girls on their site,
my statement would considered "Qualified Privilege"
or "Absolute Privilege" and taking it to court would
likely result in a criminal investigation of the plaintiffs.

Simple first year law, crack a book.

Ludedude 04-23-2002 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by roadtrip


A North American selling access to pictures of those
under the age of 18 is a crime. I don't care what
Holland's rules are, YNOT is based in the U.S.A.

Also since this is in print, it would be libel, not slander.
However since it's Club Seventeen's practice is to
promote they have 17 year old girls on their site,
my statement would considered "Qualified Privilege"
or "Absolute Privilege" and taking it to court would
likely result in a criminal investigation of the plaintiffs.

Simple first year law, crack a book.

Moron.

YNOT would never ally themselves with producers of CP.
Did you even look at ClubSeventeen's website? I bet not or you wouldn't have missed this little tidbit: All persons depicted herein were over the age of 18 years at the time they were photographed or filmed.

That's clearly written on their main page.

You owe YNOT a public apology. That's a serious goddam accusation and if you can't back it up (as you can't) you're digging a big hole for yourself.

ElvisManson 04-23-2002 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by roadtrip


A North American selling access to pictures of those
under the age of 18 is a crime. I don't care what
Holland's rules are, YNOT is based in the U.S.A.

Also since this is in print, it would be libel, not slander.
However since it's Club Seventeen's practice is to
promote they have 17 year old girls on their site,
my statement would considered "Qualified Privilege"
or "Absolute Privilege" and taking it to court would
likely result in a criminal investigation of the plaintiffs.

Simple first year law, crack a book.

roadtrip,

You are an embarssament to those of us who live in Toronto and actually think before we speak.

The People at YNOT are stand up people that have done nothing but good for our industry.

To sit in your lonely room, at your computer and quote legalese to justfiy your fuck up ( saying that YNOT is Profiting from CP) is wrong.

You made a mistake. Say you are sorry and back away quickly. You might save some face that way.

roadtrip 04-23-2002 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ElvisManson


roadtrip,

You are an embarssament to those of us who live in Toronto and actually think before we speak.

The People at YNOT are stand up people that have done nothing but good for our industry.

To sit in your lonely room, at your computer and quote legalese to justfiy your fuck up ( saying that YNOT is Profiting from CP) is wrong.

You made a mistake. Say you are sorry and back away quickly. You might save some face that way.

Even portrayal is a no no...

Obviously, I'm not going to make the guys pulling
cash off this listen. Have your way, I believe you're
sitting on a timebomb until I can walk to the corner
7-11 and buy a copy of their magazine.

You want me to say it's "OK", I can't... It makes me
sick to see such a thing go on.

As to have I been on their site, hell no! I'm not
chancing even 1 pic transitting international borders.
I'll stick to sites that advertise 18 and older.

I heavily believe this is wrong, but thead dropped.

LAJ 04-23-2002 08:15 AM

Three things...

1. Porn Jester -- You have the option to view our boards at YNOT either flat view or threaded view.

2. Thanks to those within this thread who say kind things about YNOT and know who we are.




3. Roadtrip... expect to hear back from us.

Dualcpu 04-23-2002 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LAJ

3. Roadtrip... expect to hear back from us.

ClubSeventeen should also be informed, they might be interested too.

SNIPER 04-23-2002 08:43 AM

Road Trip...what is wrong with you? Do you want to bury yourself with the webmaster community and with a board and great people who can help you?

I think you just needed something to say so you said it...but damn, don't burn HUGE bridges like that over an opinion based on an obivous lack of knowledge.

Think before you write, there are no second chances in this industry.

LAJ 04-23-2002 08:49 AM

"don't burn HUGE bridges like that over an opinion based on an obivous lack of knowledge.

Think before you write, there are no second chances in this industry"

__________________________________________

This is more than just burning bridges... there could possibly be legal implications here.

SNIPER 04-23-2002 08:52 AM

If you want to talk about depictions ...I would suggest you look in your own backyard...

http://www.sexroadtrip.com/omutsugirls/sample4.jpg
http://www.sexroadtrip.com/omutsugirls/sample1.jpg
http://www.sexroadtrip.com/omutsugirls/samples.html

Hmmmm...it me it looks like a Japanese girl, with a FUCKIN Baby soother in her mouth and diapers.....


:BangBang:

Rip 04-23-2002 08:59 AM

Quote:

Hmmmm...it me it looks like a Japanese girl, with a FUCKIN Baby soother in her mouth and diapers.....
...Those that scream the loudest always seem to have a lot of their own dirty laundry

Tipsy 04-23-2002 09:01 AM

Is it worth replying to the guy anymore? He's been told several times now that club17 only uses models 18+ but seems either very confused or too illiterate to read it. Either way your banging your head against a brick wall keep trying to get it across to him. As has been said YNOT runs a good board although the layout annoys a bit for me to post there too often.

Cyndalie 04-23-2002 09:26 AM

Road trip if I was you I'd be blubering "I'm sorry", covering my ass and running. :disgust

Both Payserve & Ynot are very reputable companies.

SNIPER 04-23-2002 09:53 AM

Hey RoadTrip...I notice no reply? Nothing to say? No comment on your taste of site promotion?

Hmmmmm silly me....you are probably still removing your foot from your mouth.:1orglaugh

Va2k 04-23-2002 12:50 PM

:quote:Even portrayal is a no no...

Then why the fuck are you promoting jap women that are acting underage?? Talk about balls Don't think there is any legal actions ynot could do nor club17 freedom of speach might block that <shrugs> What do I know I only a lonley ole webmaster But shit If you can sue a moron then WTG :)

Brian911 04-23-2002 12:56 PM

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APIC WORLDWIDE - The Association For The Protection Of Internet Copyright


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CEN Cash
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do I have to say more about apic? :1orglaugh

hollywood 04-23-2002 01:05 PM

Not surprised.

What a bunch of fucking brown nosers - Lensman can wipe his own ass.. let him.

Fletch XXX 04-23-2002 01:26 PM

Ive often thought about the legalities of sites promoting international border stuff.

The one example that gets me thinking is the Hun's servers are less than a mile from my house, I live in California... and beastiality is illegal here... I've never gotten much reply on this, but think about it sometimes hahaha

Anyone have any real info on this stuff?

eroswebmaster 04-23-2002 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by roadtrip

Simple first year law, crack a book.

Simply a 4th or 5th year elementary student able to read and comprehend would know by checking out club 17 they only allow images of 18+..it's clearly stated on their website :1orglaugh

edited to add...4th or 5th year elementary students shouldn't be visiting club17 tho'...LOL

TheFLY 04-23-2002 03:29 PM

Who give a fuck about YNOT when we have GFY?

hollywood 04-23-2002 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheFLY
Who give a fuck about YNOT when we have GFY?
YNOT is god

Ludedude 04-23-2002 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheFLY
Who give a fuck about YNOT when we have GFY?
Hey ease up on the happy pills there Pete :)

YNOT is cool...Bob knows how to party :thumbsup

LAJ 04-23-2002 06:31 PM

"Bob knows how to party"

______________________


So does Otto :)

Matt 26z 04-23-2002 06:56 PM

Yes, all models at Club17 are of legal age. Legally there is nothing wrong with these kind of sites. This is not by any means CP. But, I can see how some people could get the wrong first impression.

magick 04-23-2002 07:33 PM

APIC sounds just like the PMRC. What else do these people have to do than harrass webmasters. The law is on our side. Even virtual child porn was declared legal by the Supreme Court in the last few days. If you have proof of age, then the model is legal. End of story.

magick 04-23-2002 07:48 PM

We need to investigate APIC. Who are they?

Ludedude 04-23-2002 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LAJ
"Bob knows how to party"

______________________


So does Otto :)

I'll have to check Otto out in Miami then :winkwink:

LAJ 04-23-2002 07:56 PM

Cool! We'll all be in Montreal too.

Ludedude 04-23-2002 07:58 PM

Not going to make it up there unfortunately, my schedule is way fucked up, but Miami's a go for launch!


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