Why Porn no longer makes the money it used too...
 

Prevelance of the material everywhere.

This is the death knell right here.

http://pornotube.com/media.php?mode=videos

ill agree on that

My favorite so far...

http://pornotube.com/media.php?m=46

yeah, I have mixed feelings about pornotube.com...most of the feeling isn't very good the more I think about it

isn't aebn running that? wonder how they will feel when people start uploading their videos

Why do they care? AEBN has their video's watermarked. Check out post 3.

Lot of affiliate programs with good content in the industry, I think!

Why don't you think like a surfer?

Why pay for it,when I get can it for free?

anyone going to that site isn't going to preview a site before buying, they are going for 100% free content

but you are right, I am sure aebn will fill that shit up with their videos on their own...so they won't care

like I said, mixed emotions

this is true

Free Free Free

Youtube is already full of porn.

A site that is geared to it is gonna be so fucking hard to police, it's not even funny.

it is an unfortunate business we are in, and it gets worse by the day

hows does that site make money..i only saw one video watermarked

no ads anywhere really

it isn't technically open yet....still in beta

It's in beta right now.

I figured, the plan is to have videos that are watermarked like the video I posted in post 3.

This seems the same as any other of the 1000's MPG sites out there.

My god! Is that YouTube for porn? This is gonna be massive...

Thank you for making my point.

Why porn no longer makes the money it used too.

In 2000, I would send 20,000 clicks to ARS and make 15 to 20 sales at 40 bucks.

On Circle Jerk traffic.

Anyone who traded with me back then could tell you that I had a minimum of 15 consoles opening trading traffic and selling them.

heh, some large videos on there.. asstraffic had a couple it looked like.. one was 20 minutes..

What's up Homeboy!

What do you think about this whole video site?

Good or bad for the industry?

Once teenagers start uploading videos of their girlfriends shoving bananas into their twats that place will get some heat.

P2P programs...

Another reason.

1. Sponsor gives access to members area to each affilliate so that they have oodles of promotional material.

2. Sponsor does not insist that the last 4-8 thumbs are not clickable to full size.

3. Between 10 affilliates, the entire members section (or as close to as makes no difference) per girl is available over a series of different galleries.

4. Surfer goes to peachy18.com or somewhere similar to find all of the available galleries of each girl.

5. Surfer whacks off to his heart's content without having to get his credit card out.

6. Everyone moans about shitty ratios but is not prepared to do anything about it.

7. No-one is prepared to make the first move because (horror of horrors) they may (or may not) have to take a temporary dip in revenue before the situation improves.

Good stuff. Another reason why not to judge GFY postes by their join date.

I agree 100% with that. The problem is that if you do not put promotional material you won;t make sales and consequently you will get out of the market. SO the sponsors are in a dillema.

However, the bad ones will dissapear which means that less content will be available for free. And then the subscriptions will increase.

Egomancer

that and the image of the industry with shit like spamming, adware, spyware, pre-checked crossells,millions of "tgps",etc..etc...

Porn needs a Cartel or Mafia to police it. It seems no one is going to do the right thing willfully, some people need a little "motivation" to fix this problem.

Don't think for a second that this isn't a problem. It is. As Anthony said, it is a death knell.

I've always said right now in porn if you have a half ounce of sense about the internet there is no reason to ever pullout your credit card anymore.

As harsh as it sounds you do have a point...

people complain all the time about rules, regulations and whatnot, but look what happens when its "every man for itself"

This industry is killing itself...always has and i doubt it will stop...

Imagine in say 5 years conversions 10x worse than the average tgp conversions nowadays (nothing worth talking about)

AEBN business model is to lower the income per consumer instead of maximizing it. Its idiotic at best, but their movtive is to make a "AEBN" vs. "the rest of the adult internet" situation. That means you and me are the enemy in AEBN´s eyes.

Lots of studio owners have bought into this without thinking long term - content owners are basicly given content FREE to AEBN, which then takes it and markets it as a cheap throw away product, lowering the overall value.

If their business was really the best way to sell porn, then why will you never see the "Paris Hilton´s videos" of the world on AEBN... because the content owner KNOWS that people are READY to pay more than 8 cents per minute of which he only receive 3 cents!!! Same with a good paysite - it will beat AEBN any time!

Anyone who have pushed the AEBN "per minute" site knows how little it makes per consumer/sale vs. a standard paysite :2 cents:

Now AEBN knows this, so they have started to venture out in the traffic game as many other sponsors have aswell. Nothing wrong with that, but they bring their "business attitude" with them. So again you and me are the enemy in AEBN´s eyes. And how will they beat us? By giving away OUR OWN content to THEIR surfers for FREE :2 cents:

AEBN´s newest project is so close to the business model GUBA that it hurts! Except its even cheaper, because it is FREE!

AEBN is worse than GUBA! :mad:

isnt the stuff there copyprotected and so illegal?

So many programs are counting on their affiliates WAY too much. Instead of bringing in their own traffic the way they want to, they are catering to the every whim of the affiliate (free pics, FHG, free sites, free drinks/dinners, etc.) because it's "easier" than hiring someone inhouse to bring the traffic in w/o having give the store away.

It's a very short sighted way of looking at things, IMO.

I think the programs you see which are still successful in 5 years are going to be those with the smallest amount of affiliates.

well all i know i click on the 'adult ' category and all i see is fucking gay dudes :Oh crap
too damn gross

Yeap porn is dead, sell your sites, quit working porn please thanks.

Its going to be a masive bill that may NOT pay off.

You think AEBN is going to worry about copyrights before people upload every porn video they have in their porn collection?

Funny thing is, I'm not YET an adult webmaster. I'm at the 'have some ideas but don't have the time to get in yet' stage.

But even though I'm no expert, it's so obvious that this industry is in a real mess. The level of professionalism in general across the industry is very, very low, if GFY is anything to go by.

There ARE ways to improve things for all the serious, non-scammer, professional webmasters but it will require alot of effort, some treading on of toes, some time and a little money. I've identified several people on this board who I think might be able to lead this industry away from the drain it's heading towards and I've seen a bit of encouraging talk here and there but no moves towards real action.

I look forward to reading more about you - you are on the right track :thumbsup

Bandwidth is cheap... and so is FREE content :thumbsup

Wonder when AEBN will announce they have bought GUBA :1orglaugh