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CHMOD 08-29-2006 07:05 PM
NEw fusker = ixtractor.com -> impossible to stop from hotlinking !
 
They are burning my bandwith and maybe yours...

Forget the .htaccess it doesn't work !

HERE's WHY

I have .htaccess installed + LinkSentinel. It is not effective.

I contacted webair 4 times regarding this.
Looks like they can't stop them.

I wonder if they really care...
More bandwith burned = More $$ for them ! :Oh crap

Didn't you notice a significant increase in your bandwith bill ?
You didn't care because you have hotlink protection + password sharing protection ?

SO WHAT ?

Surfers now don't care if you are TRYING to protect from hotlinkg with .htaccess, by setting their browser's HeaderReferer to 0, they still can burn your bandwith.

KrisKross 08-29-2006 07:07 PM
I know very little about .htaccess, but can't you just block those with no header referrer?

CHMOD 08-29-2006 07:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KrisKross
I know very little about .htaccess, but can't you just block those with no header referrer?
Yes you can.

Problem is that you will block 20% of your surfers...
Many Firewall and anti-virus now sets Header Referer to 0 by default.

2HousePlague 08-29-2006 07:09 PM
lolol -- CLASSIC -- :1orglaugh

Quote:
Internet Explorer Users:
1) Got to http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/.
2) Download FireFox.
3) Install FireFox.
4) Follow FireFox instructions above.



2hp

Adult Warden 08-29-2006 07:10 PM
no offense to CHMOD...but hahah @ gfy being referral

HERE COMES SURFER TRAFFIC

CHMOD 08-29-2006 07:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Adult Warden
no offense to CHMOD...but hahah @ gfy being referral

HERE COMES SURFER TRAFFIC
I know. But it doesn't help to do as if the problem doesn't exist.

There are 98% of bullshitters here... But it would be nice if the rest could work to find something against this shit.

Brujah 08-29-2006 07:30 PM
He forgot Opera.

In Opera, hit F12 (Quick Prefs), uncheck "Enable Referrer Logging"

GrouchyAdmin 08-29-2006 07:35 PM
Uhm, just deny no referrers, people. This isn't rocket science. This is entirely off the cuff, so if it shits on you, sorry.

RewriteRule %{HTTP_REFERER} ^$
RewriteRule .*\.(gif|jp(?e)g)$ http://yourserver.com/no.gif [NC, R]

[Tard Edit: As mentioned above, this will fuck people who don't send referers, but they generally do this on purpose..]

MaddCaz 08-29-2006 07:36 PM
good diddeal

Brujah 08-29-2006 07:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by toonpornblog
Uhm, just deny no referrers, people. This isn't rocket science. This is entirely off the cuff, so if it shits on you, sorry.

RewriteRule %{HTTP_REFERER} ^$
RewriteRule .*\.(gif|jp(?e)g)$ http://yourserver.com/no.gif [NC, R]
Was already suggested.

He decided that isn't a valid option for his needs since it will also block 20% of his legit visitors.

CHMOD 08-29-2006 07:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by toonpornblog
Uhm, just deny no referrers, people. This isn't rocket science. This is entirely off the cuff, so if it shits on you, sorry.

RewriteRule %{HTTP_REFERER} ^$
RewriteRule .*\.(gif|jp(?e)g)$ http://yourserver.com/no.gif [NC, R]
Would help if you could read all posts before replying.

GrouchyAdmin 08-29-2006 07:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brujah
Was already suggested.

He decided that isn't a valid option for his needs since it will also block 20% of his legit visitors.
Yeah. I forgot to put that in before I hit submit. I also forgot the code tags. For most of us, though, they're non-paying traffic anyhow. Hell, it's simple enough, you can redirect them to the root page. If they were sent to steal shit, then they get your home page. If they have referrers turned off, well, then it's up to you. Set a cookie. It's still not rocket science. ;)

SmokeyTheBear 08-29-2006 07:41 PM
i suggest using a key to rename the folder the pics reside in everyday , but of course the pages that use the pics would have to be built around the same structure. wouldnt be hard to build really

SmokeyTheBear 08-29-2006 07:43 PM
plus as mentioned that "no referrer " traffic your worried about prob aint buying anything anyways

Brujah 08-29-2006 07:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
plus as mentioned that "no referrer " traffic your worried about prob aint buying anything anyways
I see a lot of signups that show up as NA or Bookmark referrers. I wouldn't block them or treat them differently either.

CHMOD 08-29-2006 07:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by toonpornblog
Yeah. I forgot to put that in before I hit submit. I also forgot the code tags. For most of us, though, they're non-paying traffic anyhow. Hell, it's simple enough, you can redirect them to the root page. If they were sent to steal shit, then they get your home page. If they have referrers turned off, well, then it's up to you. Set a cookie. It's still not rocket science. ;)

I am maybe missing something here...

If a legit surfer with Norton installed is trying to visit my website.
He's coming, let's say from Google.
Won't my .htaccess block him in this case ?

And why would that surfer be a non buyer ?

SmokeyTheBear 08-29-2006 08:02 PM
post an url to a hotlink protected pic and ill show you how to get around it..

studiocritic 08-29-2006 08:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CHMOD
I am maybe missing something here...

If a legit surfer with Norton installed is trying to visit my website.
He's coming, let's say from Google.
Won't my .htaccess block him in this case ?
This is correct, assuming Norton blocks referrers by default.

I don't know which programs do/don't, but I do see a very significant amount (20-25%) on my mainstream site who don't pass referrers even to the image files within the site.

venus 08-29-2006 09:15 PM
this will block them

put your pictures in a sub directory under the galleries directory, put a htaccess in the sub directory and use referring url,in the htaccess put the referring url as your doman name

ne0 08-29-2006 09:23 PM
# iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -s 64.105.122.0/24 -d 0/0 -j DROP
:)

Arty 08-30-2006 05:04 AM
Few months ago I did an addon for one of my clients, something similar to what smokey suggested, for one of my clients. Basicaly, it rotates image folder every hour (can me more or less frequent).

F.x. That's the current image link http://static01.vapshare.com/f868ed4...54/126835.jpeg

You may check it out at http://www.vapshare.com/126835/40791...ottest105.html

Far more effective than htaccess+referrer :2 cents:

darksoul 08-30-2006 05:27 AM
I would redirect the non ref requests to *******
they'll remove your images in a sec

rowan 08-30-2006 05:37 AM
Couple of solutions...

1) Rotate your image filenames periodically

2) Set a cookie on your thumb/gallery page and require it to be present to load a full sized image

Pete-KT 08-30-2006 05:43 AM
Did you try the link at the top


"Webmasters, if you would like your site removed from iXtracor please contact us."

Fabien 08-30-2006 05:56 AM
If you can't beat 'hem, join 'hem

Shit i want this software !!!

Hooligan 08-30-2006 06:34 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CHMOD
I contacted webair 4 times regarding this.

Looks like they can't stop them.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

RawAlex 08-30-2006 09:48 AM
I won't even mention who the two major money makers are on that site (but if I did, they would be AFF and Adbrite... always the same two companies on sites like these for some reason).

Hotlinking is an acceptable business practice?

MattO 08-30-2006 09:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
post an url to a hotlink protected pic and ill show you how to get around it..

Try the pics in this gallery:

http://www.adultpulse.com/galleries/atkhairy/Anna

:)

CHMOD 08-30-2006 10:01 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete-KT
Did you try the link at the top


"Webmasters, if you would like your site removed from iXtracor please contact us."
Problem is that most similar sites don't offer this option.


Quote:
Originally Posted by SplitNeo
# iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -s 64.105.122.0/24 -d 0/0 -j DROP
:)
I don't understand japonese.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arty
Few months ago I did an addon for one of my clients, something similar to what smokey suggested, for one of my clients. Basicaly, it rotates image folder every hour (can me more or less frequent).

F.x. That's the current image link http://static01.vapshare.com/f868ed4...54/126835.jpeg

You may check it out at http://www.vapshare.com/126835/40791...ottest105.html

Far more effective than htaccess+referrer :2 cents:

There is something I am missing here...

If, in example, I am using Ixtractor to view my pics now. It will hotlink the pictures wherever they are... Now if the script changes the image folder name in, let's say 30 minutes... When someone will use Ixtractor in 35 minutes he will simply see hotlinked images from the new named folder won't he ?

CHMOD 08-30-2006 10:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MattO
Try the pics in this gallery:

http://www.adultpulse.com/galleries/atkhairy/Anna

:)

Awesome !

How did you do ?


EDIT : Looks like you just bloked non header referer browser...

When I visit this gallery with my Firefox browser : I don't see any images either...

MattO 08-30-2006 10:07 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CHMOD
Awesome !

How did you do ?
Windows server IIS plugin called HotLinkBlocker.

RawAlex 08-30-2006 10:17 AM
Blocknig non-header referer just means that 20% of your real surfers won't get any images either. Not really a good way to do things.

The best way to do things is to complain directly to the sponsors that are paying for this site to stay up, as well as reporting them to their host, and so on up the line.

You might even drop a dime on them to the DoJ about 2257 documents. I somehow doubt they have a single piece of 2257 for any model on their site.

seeric 08-30-2006 10:17 AM
nothing is impossible. it can be blocked, i'm sure of it.

tenderobject 08-30-2006 10:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fabien
If you can't beat 'hem, join 'hem

Shit i want this software !!!

hahahaha i love this one :1orglaugh

Dirty Dane 08-30-2006 10:27 AM
spam/bombard them until they block your domain :)

borked 08-30-2006 11:12 AM
...sorry for the japanese, but this will solve any of those problems

Code:
<img src="/display.php?id=34" border="0">

then

Code:
<?

$connection=@mysql_connect(...);

@mysql_select_db(...);

$query="SELECT mime, file FROM images WHERE id=".$_GET["id"];

$rawdb=@mysql_query ($query,$connection);

if($rawdb AND @mysql_num_rows($rawdb)>0){

  $array=@ mysql_fetch_array($result);

  if (!empty($array["fileContents"])){

    // Output the MIME header

    header("Content-Type: ".$array["mime"]}");

    // Output the image

    echo $array["file"];

  }else{

    // something else...

  }

  @mysql_free_result($rawdb);

}else{

  // something else...

}

@mysql_close($connection);

?>

borked 08-30-2006 11:18 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by toonpornblog
Set a cookie. It's still not rocket science. ;)
Actually, this is by far the simplest! Even a simple session cookie would suffice.

RawAlex 08-30-2006 11:44 AM
Setting a cookie or otherwise burdening your machine for your regular customers is just another cost of this type of theft. Why tolerate the theft? Why allow the sponsors to keep paying these people?

I have sent emails and messages to adbrite, AFF, and others on this issue, I will be interested to hear the comments back.

Manowar 08-30-2006 11:58 AM
bump for this

s9ann0 08-30-2006 12:02 PM
lamers lamers lamers


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