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Originally Posted by ZangoCash Email
Some of you may have seen or heard about some very serious charges made by TeamClickCash against Zango and others in a series of web/forum posts over the past few days.
Normally, we would not respond to such accusations by circulating a written communication like this to our partners. In this instance, we will make an exception. The charges are irresponsible and inaccurate. In addition, our efforts to reach out to TeamClickCash to engage in a direct conversation about its (unfounded) concerns have been completely ignored. Most of our partners have worked with us long enough to know that we are a responsible company, always striving to do what?s best for consumers, advertisers, web publishers, and content providers. It?s our hope that all our partners, regardless of the length of their experience with us, will share that feeling about us after reading the following.
Somebody using the nick ?Will76? at TeamClickCash took exception to a specific campaign running on our network. The campaign was run by AdultFriendFinder Media. Will76 witnessed his cookie being overwritten by a cookie placed by the ad. Will76 quickly jumped to the conclusion that Zango is the devil incarnate and immediately launched against us on every webmaster forum he could log into ? this before even bothering to contact us to make sure he understood what was happening.
He should have asked. Overwriting the cookie made us no money. None. Zango had (and has) no incentive to overwrite the cookie. The campaign in question was being run on a cost per visitor (CPV) basis, not on a cost per action (CPA) basis. The cookie was placed by the advertiser.
There is no reason to believe that AdultFriendFinder had malicious intent; it has a long history of being proactive and protecting the interests of its affiliates. In fact, when the potential conflict was brought to the attention of AdultFriendFinder and Zango (at about the same time), AdultFriendFinder stopped the campaigns in question and reconfigured them to avoid the potential of having a cookie overwritten or a home page targeted. In short, much ado about very little.
Once unleashed, however, Will76?s forum rampages started to include any number of false and defamatory claims against Zango, like . . . the software infects your computer, it?s spyware, MySpace is suing the company, we can do anything we want on a user?s computer, etc. These claims are laughable and, to be clear, false. Zango has over 200 employees in four countries and runs a highly successful publisher and advertising business based on our commitment to providing a high value to our users, our advertisers, and our publishers. We did not become the business we are today by cheating people or engaging in unethical business practices. You?ve seen our guidelines and our code of conduct. You know firsthand how careful we are with our publishers and our products.
The ?cookie placement? controversy was one that raised its head somewhat frequently in years past. As the industry has evolved and more individuals and companies gained familiarity with cookies, the issue hasn?t really come up since early 2005. In part, that?s because we publicized the results of a third-party, independent audit we commissioned. (The audit firm, ImServices Group Ltd., is a well-known company in this space, and is the only firm we approached to do the audit. Will76?s assertions to the contrary are yet another example of his inability to state basic fact.) Attached is a copy of the audit firm?s findings, giving us a clean bill of health.
If you have any questions after reading the above, please don?t hesitate to contact me or anyone else here at Zango. An honest discussion between sincere, sophisticated parties is just smart business. Period.
Best Regards,
Zangocash
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This letter is legit. I received a similar email and voice mail from Zango a couple days ago. I have no desire to speak to them personally so they can try to explain to me how I am wrong and their software doesn't affect my traffic in anyway. I have been waiting for my attorney to look into this and I am going to let him speak with them, if they feel the need to talk to me again in the future.
First of all, I have shifted away from Zango and I am focusing instead on the sponsors in our industry who are using "adware" to generate sales. We all know how it works. The "Adware" pops up over the ads on our sites and our traffic is diverted to the "adware's advertisers". In some cases the "adware's advertiser" is an affiliate for the same company as you and he hijacks your sales. So my agenda is with the companies using the "adware". I can't change the world, but I will make as much noise in our industry as I can.
I have two agenda's here. To educate everyone who wants to promote "adware" on how it works, and how it affects us as affiliates. Also, to seperate the good sponsors from the bad who accept "adware" sales.
My response to the inaccuracies distributed around the web about me by ZangoCash:
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Originally Posted by ZangoCash Email
The campaign was run by AdultFriendFinder Media. Will76 witnessed his cookie being overwritten by a cookie placed by the ad.
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This is 100% incorrect. I do not promote AFF. I did record a video of my ClickCash Cookie being overwritten by a zango advertiser's cookie. So apparently this was happening to AFF affiliates as well.
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Originally Posted by ZangoCash Email
In fact, when the potential conflict was brought to the attention of AdultFriendFinder and Zango (at about the same time), AdultFriendFinder stopped the campaigns in question and reconfigured them to avoid the potential of having a cookie overwritten or a home page targeted. In short, much ado about very little
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" Potential Conflict" lol. So it is a potential conflict for AFF to overwrite cookies of their affiliates ? But this happening, and still happening is " much ado about very little ", I guess for the people collecting the money, but that is not how the people having cookies overwritten feel anyway.
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Originally Posted by ZangoCash Email
He should have asked. Overwriting the cookie made us no money. None. Zango had (and has) no incentive to overwrite the cookie. The campaign in question was being run on a cost per visitor (CPV) basis, not on a cost per action (CPA) basis. The cookie was placed by the advertiser.
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The more the "advertiser" makes buying traffic from the "traffic company", the more they can charge for said traffic. In this case, the more the "advertisers" make the more they will bid on those keywords. Regardless if Zangocash was making a CPA on the traffic or not, they had an incentive to enable their "advertisers" to make as much money as possible, which in turn would make them more in advertising rates going up. They absolutly benefited from this, even if it was not directly.
It is also my understanding from reading this part, they Zango just said AFF was the one running the campaign in which case AFF's cookies were overwritting their own affiliate's cookie. (we can touch more on this later).
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Originally Posted by ZangoCash Email
Once unleashed, however, Will76?s forum rampages started to include any number of false and defamatory claims against Zango, like . . . the software infects your computer, it?s spyware, MySpace is suing the company, we can do anything we want on a user?s computer, etc. These claims are laughable and, to be clear, false.
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Just a few articles on the internet referring to Zango as spyware:
http://www.governmentsecurity.org/fo...hp/t22516.html
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Spyware/?p=847 "These are Zango porn videos ? you watch them but get Zango spyware installed on your system."
http://www.castlecops.com/p672607-18..._ZoneLabs.html It seems more antivirus software detects Zango as spyware and Zango is sueing some of them because of this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zango this page use to call it spyware, but it looks like they have changed it recently... interesting.You can google "zango and spyware" and read all of the results for yourself.
Anyone is welcome to also google Myspace and Zango, I thought i read that they were sueing them, not sure if I said that or not, but I have made several referrences to how zango is being distributed on myspace. I also made referrences to how Warner Bros dropped zango because it's search assistant which was bundled with kid's games which were poping up porn sites to kids.
I have never said this " we can do anything we want on a user?s computer " please provide proof where I have ?
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Originally Posted by ZangoCash Email
Will76?s assertions to the contrary are yet another example of his inability to state basic fact.) Attached is a copy of the audit firm?s findings, giving us a clean bill of health.
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Nice spin there. My biggest assertion was that zango was allowing it's "advertisers" to overwrite other affiliates cookies. This was PROVEN as being true by Zango's own admission that it asked AFF to stop doing this.
Don't worry Zango, I won't be saying your name any more. Like I said I am mainly worried with the adult companies who are accepting traffic from "adware" which steals revenue and traffic from all of us here. If you wish to engage me then you will force me to give you a 110% of my full attention. It's your choice were we go from here.
Back to adult friend finder.
So for those of you who could not put 2 and 2 together. According to Zango, Adultfriendfinder was buying their own keywords and setting cookies over their affiliates, which i can't describe anyother way then stealling sales.
It can't be any more clear as day as that. How does this make you feel ?
