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ADL Colin 02-28-2007 03:28 AM

Condom effectiveness. scary!
 
I'm gonna have to get "fixed".

* In one year, only two of every 100 couples who use condoms consistently and correctly will experience an unintended pregnancy

* In one year with perfect use (meaning couples use condoms consistently and correctly at every act of sex), 98 percent of women relying on male condoms will remain pregnancy free. With typical use, 85 percent relying on male condoms will remain pregnancy free.

ADL Colin 02-28-2007 03:36 AM

Oh, and they view that as a positive. "only".

But consider ... in a 5 year period there is about a 10% chance of getting a girl pregnant on condoms only. That will fuck up your life if you don't plan on having kids.

Adultnet 02-28-2007 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ADL Colin (Post 11986282)
Oh, and they view that as a positive. "only".

But consider ... in a 5 year period there is about a 10% chance of getting a girl pregnant on condoms only. That will fuck up your life if you don't plan on having kids.

thats for sure..:)

Angelo22 02-28-2007 04:11 AM

Hahah...i await the day the "perfect condom" will be made

d00t 02-28-2007 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Angelo22 (Post 11986384)
Hahah...i await the day the "perfect condom" will be made

i think they already made that, it's called not giving a fuck? :upsidedow

XMaster 02-28-2007 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Angelo22 (Post 11986384)
Hahah...i await the day the "perfect condom" will be made

http://www.sideshowworld.com/atsCb9.jpg

Angelo22 02-28-2007 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by d00t (Post 11986415)
i think they already made that, it's called not giving a fuck? :upsidedow

:1orglaugh

HeadPimp 02-28-2007 07:36 AM

Taking birth control info from the Catholic church again?

MrBrian 02-28-2007 07:41 AM

well pull out even when you have a condom on...aim for her eyes :-D

ADL Josh 02-28-2007 07:52 AM

condoms??

jalami 02-28-2007 08:16 AM

Having your girlfriend use birth control pills isn't really that much better... perfect use of birth control pills has under 1% failure rate per year, but that's just theoretical since there can be lapses in daily use of birth control. Typical use failure is a little over 3%. Still better than those condom figures though.

Pharmaceutical companies are working hard on getting a male birth control pill underway -- most of the options revolve around mucking around with the production of a unique protein that is used to form the sperm's tail. That way it doesn't screw up anything else in your body, and it's reversible a few weeks after stopping. I can see that being -extremely- popular.

I think once that comes out, sexually active guys will be combining the male contraceptive (which could be combined with regular supplements) with condom use, or in a long-term relationship, both partners using birth control.

ADL Eddie 02-28-2007 08:47 AM

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

ADL Colin 02-28-2007 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Mystery Man (Post 11987305)
LOL you need to go back to school mate. It says 98% that's 2 percent so just because its over 5 years doesnt mean u make it 2*5... its still 2%

The figure they give is for one year only. In order to get the number for x number of years you calculate 1 minus the probability of NOT getting pregnant raised to the xth power. So in this case 1 minus (.98 raised to the 5th power). .98^5 is .9039. Then you subtract that from one which is .0961 so 9.61% which rounds to 10%.

If there were a 10% chance of getting pregnant in any one year then the chance of getting pregnant in a 5 year period would be 1-(.9^5) which is 41%.

You are right that it is not 2*5 but it just looks like that for small numbers (2%, for example)

Phoenix 02-28-2007 08:51 AM

condoms are for pussies;)

ADL Colin 02-28-2007 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 11987413)
condoms are for pussies;)

They sure are

Connor 02-28-2007 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by XMaster (Post 11986424)

Can you imagine a lady stuck wearing this and having to take a piss while the dude with the key is off conquering some distant kingdom? I can't imagine that would be pleasant for a young lady...

d00t 02-28-2007 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 11987413)
condoms are for pussies;)


:1orglaugh ha

Phoenix 02-28-2007 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Mystery Man (Post 11987630)
What the fuck are you talking about Willis? This is not a tear and wear you don't reuse condoms man. I'm pretty sure what they mean is 98% safe meaning exactly what it says 98% leaving 2% chances of your chick getting pregnant. Whether you use 1 or 2000 condoms over 1 night or 10 years.

Somebody please step in here and tell me if I'm way off?

your logic is correct michael
you dont accumulate risk each time unless you are reusing the same condom..lol

ADL Colin 02-28-2007 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystery Man (Post 11987630)
What the fuck are you talking about Willis? This is not a tear and wear you don't reuse condoms man. I'm pretty sure what they mean is 98% safe meaning exactly what it says 98% leaving 2% chances of your chick getting pregnant. Whether you use 1 or 2000 condoms over 1 night or 10 years.

No, If you have sex 1000x there is a much greater chance of getting someone pregnant than if you have sex one time. There is some chance of a condom "failing". A very small chance. More uses = more danger.

pornguy 02-28-2007 10:14 AM

Snip Snip is in my very NEAR future.

NoWhErE 02-28-2007 10:21 AM

Thats why they say Anal Sex is Wild and it don't cause no chil!


Words to live by my friends

tASSy 02-28-2007 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ADL Colin (Post 11987824)
No, If you have sex 1000x there is a much greater chance of getting someone pregnant than if you have sex one time. There is some chance of a condom "failing". A very small chance. More uses = more danger.

similar to a roulette wheel, the statistics for whether you land on red or black don't go up exponentially each time you play, nor each time you have sex. you can also liken this to flipping a coin; just because you flip the coin a thousand times doesn't mean the probability of the coin landing on either heads or tales increases. it is a YES/NO, just as is a BROKEN CONDOM/EFFECTIVE CONDOM. :2 cents:

Theo 02-28-2007 10:24 AM

Colin is a math mind

tony286 02-28-2007 10:25 AM

the odds are still better than using nothing.

Phoenix 02-28-2007 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel (Post 11987890)
Colin is a math mind

his math mind failed him this time..lol

Kimmykim 02-28-2007 10:28 AM

I'm going to go with Colin on this one.

PenetratinP 02-28-2007 10:57 AM

Astroglide is a nice last chance backup just in case a condom fails. It has been shown to damage sperm. :thumbsup

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Can I use Astroglide while trying to conceive?
Astroglide is not a spermicide and will not kill sperm. Studies have shown, however, that Astroglide as well as other topical lubricants do inhibit the motility or movement of sperm. Knowing this, if you choose to use Astroglide, we suggest using a small amount applied to the outer area. Discontinue use if conception is not achieved in a reasonable amount of time. It is always advised to consult your physician first and to follow his or her recommendation.


From - http://www.astroglide.com/products_qa.asp
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Vaginal Lubricants May Harm Sperm

In the study, researchers compared the effects of combining donor sperm from 13 different men in a solution of 10% of each of the four different vaginal lubricants vs. untreated sperm.

The results showed that sperm activity ranged from a high of 66% in untreated sperm to a low of 2% in a solution containing Astroglide.


From - http://www.webmd.com/infertility-and...y-damage-sperm

ADL Colin 02-28-2007 11:11 AM

It says "in one year".

In my scenario.

Year 1. 100 condom using people. 2 pregnancies
Year 2. 100 condom using people. 2 pregnancies
Year 3. 100 condom using people. 2 pregnancies
Year 4. 100 condom using people. 2 pregnancies
Year 5. 100 condom using people. 2 pregnancies

In the other scenario something like this:

Year 1. 100 condom using people. 2 pregnancies
Year 2. 100 condom using people. 0 pregnancies
Year 3. 100 condom using people. 0 pregnancies
Year 4. 100 condom using people. 0 pregnancies
Year 5. 100 condom using people. 0 pregnancies

I think they mean the first.

OR ... say there is a 1 in 1000 chance of getting pregnant each time a condom is used. The chances of getting pregnant after having sex once is 1 in 1000. The chances of getting pregnant after having sex 10 times is not STILL 1 in 1000 total. It is now 1-(999/1000)^10.

MetaMan 02-28-2007 11:16 AM

Condoms suck but i use them anyway, but i swear they break like every fucking time. i have had more scares with condoms then without. but i continue to use them anyway.

ADL Colin 02-28-2007 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tASSy (Post 11987882)


similar to a roulette wheel, the statistics for whether you land on red or black don't go up exponentially each time you play, nor each time you have sex. you can also liken this to flipping a coin; just because you flip the coin a thousand times doesn't mean the probability of the coin landing on either heads or tales increases. it is a YES/NO, just as is a BROKEN CONDOM/EFFECTIVE CONDOM. :2 cents:

In the analogy to coin flipping, the odds of getting AT LEAST one head go up when you flip multiple times.

1 flip. 50% chance of getting at least one head.
2 flips. 75% chance of getting at least one head (1-1/2^2)
3 flips. 87.5% chance of getting at least one head (1-1/2^3)

This is like the chance of getting pregnant. Forget the condom for a moment. Say you have a 1 in 20 chance of getting pregnant each time you have sex.

After 1 time. 5% chance of being pregnant
After 2 times. 9.75% chance of being pregnant
After 3 times. 14.3%
After 20 times. 64.2%

NOT:

After 1 time. 5% chance of being pregnant
After 2 times. 5% chance of being pregnant
After 3 times. 5%
After 20 times. 5%
(if that were true there wouldn't be many kids! Only 1 in 20 people could have kids. More sex = more kids!)

NinjaSteve 02-28-2007 12:02 PM

What if you use condoms and birth control pills and spermicide

Kimo 02-28-2007 12:17 PM

i guess in this case boyalley is a winner

ADL Colin 02-28-2007 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NinjaSteve (Post 11988425)
What if you use condoms and birth control pills and spermicide

Assume:

1 year condom effectiveness: 98%
1 year birth control pill effectiveness: 98%
1 year spermicide effectivess: 74%

Then chance of pregnancy in a year would be: (2/100)*(2/100)*(26/100) = 1 in 9600. That's the way to go.

Ayla_SquareTurtle 02-28-2007 12:27 PM

whatever the math is, I'm beating the odds motherfuckers. And if the condom ever fails, it's abortion city around here. Take that, religious fuckwads.

Lacerto 02-28-2007 12:39 PM

I never use them anyway...like fucking a balloon.

Sinstar 02-28-2007 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ayla_AAA (Post 11988549)
whatever the math is, I'm beating the odds motherfuckers. And if the condom ever fails, it's abortion city around here. Take that, religious fuckwads.

haha :1orglaugh

gornyhuy 02-28-2007 12:44 PM

just tie them tooooobs, nooobs.

pornpf69 02-28-2007 12:45 PM

the problem is not the condoms....

Fap 02-28-2007 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Connor (Post 11987436)
Can you imagine a lady stuck wearing this and having to take a piss while the dude with the key is off conquering some distant kingdom? I can't imagine that would be pleasant for a young lady...

and then he dies and it is stuck forever... and rust!

Big Red Machine 02-28-2007 01:58 PM

I think some of them turned them inside out, trying to use the rubber twice....lol


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