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Ripshit 09-04-2007 09:22 PM

War with Iran?
 
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...arwithiran.htm

What are your thoughts on how this has progressed?

aico 09-04-2007 09:24 PM

Iran would kick our asses.

theking 09-04-2007 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by aico (Post 13034832)
Iran would kick our asses.

Pigshit. The proof is in the pudding...Iran could not kick Iraq's ass in years of war. In the 1st Gulf war we kicked Iraq's ass in six weeks of air war and one hundred hours of ground war. In the 2nd Gulf war we defeated Iraq's military and overthrew their government in 24 days. Just as Iraq presented no contest the same applies to Iran.

RedShoe 09-04-2007 09:38 PM

I say let's go for it. We're already right there. Might as well go down in a blaze of glory, I sez.

tony286 09-04-2007 09:39 PM

They will have to bring back the draft, it will get very ugly.

aico 09-04-2007 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 13034853)
Pigshit. The proof is in the pudding...Iran could not kick Iraq's ass in years of war. In the 1st Gulf war we kicked Iraq's ass in six weeks of air war and one hundred hours of ground war. In the 2nd Gulf war we defeated Iraq's military and overthrew their government in 24 days. Just as Iraq presented no contest the same applies to Iran.

Turn off Fox News, and get the real news.

theking 09-04-2007 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by aico (Post 13034869)
Turn off Fox News, and get the real news.

You apparently do not get any news.

shake 09-04-2007 09:49 PM

It would depend on what nations might join Iran, Syria, Turkey? Any country that might fear they would be a target next might ban together... could be WW3 :2 cents :(

Xplicit 09-04-2007 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by aico (Post 13034832)
Iran would kick our asses.

LOL yeah, a country with virtually no navy or air force in their first stages of devoloping nukes would destroy the world most high-tech military.

The reason we're losing in Iraq is because now we're sensistive pussies who fight politically correct wars where we're so worried about killing civilians. If America went "all out" we'd fucking flatting that country overnight with bombs.

But the reasons above are also the reasons its stupid to think Iran is a threat. We don't need to attack them, but we will.

Profits of Doom 09-04-2007 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by aico (Post 13034832)
Iran would kick our asses.

Israel could wipe Iran off the map if we decided to not stand in their way...

DWB 09-04-2007 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 13034853)
Pigshit. The proof is in the pudding...Iran could not kick Iraq's ass in years of war. In the 1st Gulf war we kicked Iraq's ass in six weeks of air war and one hundred hours of ground war. In the 2nd Gulf war we defeated Iraq's military and overthrew their government in 24 days. Just as Iraq presented no contest the same applies to Iran.

And just look at us now.

We would have the same mess in Iran. Of course we would sweep them in a matter of days or weeks, but then it would turn into a cluster fuck like we have in Iraq now.

baddog 09-04-2007 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 13034988)
And just look at us now.

We would have the same mess in Iran. Of course we would sweep them in a matter of days or weeks, but then it would turn into a cluster fuck like we have in Iraq now.

That wasn't the question.

aico 09-04-2007 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Profits of Doom (Post 13034933)
Israel could wipe Iran off the map if we decided to not stand in their way...

Last time I checked, we weren't Israel.

DS250 09-04-2007 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 13035003)
That wasn't the question.

He knows that retard, he is posting his opinion. You manage to post your worthless opinion in every single fucking thread, to the tune of 56,900 worthless posts.

Profits of Doom 09-04-2007 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by aico (Post 13035017)
Last time I checked, we weren't Israel.

I'm aware of that, and I hope you didn't jump up on your computer desk and beat your chest after posting that. You stated that Iran would kick our ass. The reality is Iran couldn't kick Israel's ass, which is roughly 2 1/2 times the size of Rhode Island. Even in our overextended military state we would have little to no trouble with Iran...

aico 09-04-2007 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Profits of Doom (Post 13035044)
I'm aware of that, and I hope you didn't jump up on your computer desk and beat your chest after posting that. You stated that Iran would kick our ass. The reality is Iran couldn't kick Israel's ass, which is roughly 2 1/2 times the size of Rhode Island. Even in our overextended military state we would have little to no trouble with Iran...

We would get our asses kicked. A military that trains their entire life to fight versus one who is trained for 8 weeks and in it for the quick money & college funds, hmmm.

dav3 09-04-2007 10:43 PM

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Defense Secretary Robert Gates called the move a reaffirmation that "We will be here for a long time and everybody needs to remember that."
Great. I wish that our government would become the "sleeping giant" again and put most of the efforts into our own country for once. :disgust

Profits of Doom 09-04-2007 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by aico (Post 13035079)
We would get our asses kicked. A military that trains their entire life to fight versus one who is trained for 8 weeks and in it for the quick money & college funds, hmmm.

You're kidding, right? Do you honestly believe that? I won't even get into the whole Navy and Air Force issue, which was already brought up by Xplicit, but this is beyond an ignorant statement. You just reminded me why I should NEVER get into a political argument on an adult webmaster board...

aico 09-04-2007 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Profits of Doom (Post 13035134)
You're kidding, right? Do you honestly believe that? I won't even get into the whole Navy and Air Force issue, which was already brought up by Xplicit, but this is beyond an ignorant statement. You just reminded me why I should NEVER get into a political argument on an adult webmaster board...

Didn't realize it was an argument. Yes, I actually believe it. Wanna make a bet on it? I'll bet you $100 if we go into Iran we get our asses whipped.

Profits of Doom 09-04-2007 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by aico (Post 13035185)
Didn't realize it was an argument. Yes, I actually believe it. Wanna make a bet on it? I'll bet you $100 if we go into Iran we get our asses whipped.

Dude, Iran has NO Navy or Air Force. We could wipe them out with little to no ground fighting. I'm going to assume you are just trying to be a smart ass, but if you are not, I will happily bet you $1000 if we invade Iran we will wipe them out with the same ease we did Iraq...

StickyGreen 09-04-2007 11:00 PM

lmao @ anyone thinking that Iran would have any kind of chance against the U.S. militarily.

Here's another article from the same site, claiming that Dick Cheney ordered the media to sell the Iran war to the people. I randomly had fox news on earlier, and right after I read this article I heard Hannity say something like "when we come back, why the time to deal with Iran is now." So I'd say there is some truth to this article:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...ney_orders.htm

aico 09-04-2007 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Profits of Doom (Post 13035212)
Dude, Iran has NO Navy or Air Force. We could wipe them out with little to no ground fighting. I'm going to assume you are just trying to be a smart ass, but if you are not, I will happily bet you $1000 if we invade Iran we will wipe them out with the same ease we did Iraq...

Why do you keep comparing Iraq to Iran? I know they are only 1 letter different, but it's comparing apples to oranges. Most of the original Iraq military were forced into it, and gave up because they wanted to be freed from it. The real military (the people of Iraq) are kicking our asses as we speak.

Profits of Doom 09-04-2007 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 13035223)
lmao @ anyone thinking that Iran would have any kind of chance against the U.S. militarily.

Here's another article from the same site, claiming that Dick Cheney ordered the media to sell the Iran war to the people. I randomly had fox news on earlier, and right after I read this article I heard Hannity say something like "when we come back, why the time to deal with Iran is now." So I'd say there is some truth to this article:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...ney_orders.htm

Exactly...the Iran/Iraq war was a text book example of how NOT to fight a war. Iran would have been defeated easily had Saddam not stopped short of advancing directly into Tehran, which he did only because he was a clueless tool that lacked even basic military strategy. Then Iran's only strategy was to send wave after wave of their young people into suicide attacks of Iraq's front line.

Profits of Doom 09-04-2007 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by aico (Post 13035271)
Why do you keep comparing Iraq to Iran? I know they are only 1 letter different, but it's comparing apples to oranges. Most of the original Iraq military were forced into it, and gave up because they wanted to be freed from it. The real military (the people of Iraq) are kicking our asses as we speak.

Another ignorant statement. We are trying to stabilize Iraq now, and that is why we are subject to guerrilla warfare from the dissidents. I don't believe for one second we should have ever invaded, but if we decided to end the problem we could level the whole country in no time.

spacedog 09-04-2007 11:11 PM

The article you linked is 7 months old. The political climate has slightly changed & I don't think war with Iran is imminent.


Fuck Iran.. The US would blow them to fucking kingdom come.

aico 09-04-2007 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Profits of Doom (Post 13035283)
Another ignorant statement. We are trying to stabilize Iraq now, and that is why we are subject to guerrilla warfare from the dissidents. I don't believe for one second we should have ever invaded, but if we decided to end the problem we could level the whole country in no time.

You obviously have no idea how wars are fought, contrary to your belief, there are actually rules to war. You can't just go and "level" a whole country, so your fantasy war would be won, sure, but I live in reality.

gianni74 09-04-2007 11:15 PM

propaganda slaves!
you're still at war with iraq, first "win" this war then speak!

Rochard 09-04-2007 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by aico (Post 13034832)
Iran would kick our asses.

You bet.

Didn't the US destroy the entire Navy of Iran in like a week during the 1980's or something?

The fought Iraq for nearly a decade. We beat Iraq down in a single month.

Profits of Doom 09-04-2007 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by aico (Post 13035293)
You obviously have no idea how wars are fought, contrary to your belief, there are actually rules to war. You can't just go and "level" a whole country, so your fantasy war would be won, sure, but I live in reality.

You obviously have no idea how wars are fought, genius. We already won in Iraq, and as far as I'm concerned we should leave and allow them to deal with their own quagmire. We freed them from Saddam, which was a fucking waste of time as far as I'm concerned, and now we are wasting our time trying to stabilize their country when it will never happen. You are acting like the people of Iraq are the real soldiers, and if that was the case we would be within the rules of war to level them.

Profits of Doom 09-04-2007 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 13035319)
You bet.

Didn't the US destroy the entire Navy of Iran in like a week during the 1980's or something?

The fought Iraq for nearly a decade. We beat Iraq down in a single month.

You're wasting your time arguing with him. He's obviously another 20 year old know it all that reads Ad Busters Magazine and is SO much more informed than us sheep :2 cents:

Profits of Doom 09-04-2007 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by gianni74 (Post 13035315)
propaganda slaves!
you're still at war with iraq, first "win" this war then speak!

Uh, the war has already been won. As far as I'm concerned we should have left already and let those savages fight it out amongst themselves for control...

aico 09-04-2007 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Profits of Doom (Post 13035331)
You're wasting your time arguing with him. He's obviously another 20 year old know it all that reads Ad Busters Magazine and is SO much more informed than us sheep :2 cents:

You can tell when people feel they are losing an argument when they have to resort to name calling.

I actually thought you were doing pretty well.

Profits of Doom 09-04-2007 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by aico (Post 13035354)
You can tell when people feel they are losing an argument when they have to resort to name calling.

I actually thought you were doing pretty well.

I didn't call you any names. I just find you to be an other young know it all that thinks reading a few alternative news sources makes him an expert. Then again, you could also just be trying to get a rise out of people by posting that Iran would kick our ass, in which case I'm a moron for biting...

DaddyHalbucks 09-04-2007 11:30 PM

1. Iran will become a major threat to world peace, or 2. we will stop it with force. Those are the only two choices.

Thank goodness we have a man like GWB in office to make the right decision.

It won't be pretty. Iran is much bigger than Iraq, and has a stronger military.

Rochard 09-04-2007 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Profits of Doom (Post 13035331)
You're wasting your time arguing with him. He's obviously another 20 year old know it all that reads Ad Busters Magazine and is SO much more informed than us sheep :2 cents:

I don't have the answers to any of this crap. The news is all about doom and gloom in Iraq yet if you look at it closely.... Other than car bombs targeting innocent people (meaning non military), IEDs, and a handful of mortar attacks.... There isn't much going on.

You damn well know the US wants a full time base in the Middle East.... Maybe... just maybe..... All of this is hyped so that we stay in Iraq.

gadabout 09-05-2007 12:17 AM

"Great. I wish that our government would become the "sleeping giant" again and put most of the efforts into our own country for once."
Same here I really hope Ron Paul gets his chance because that is the only way it is every going to happen.

Shakula 09-05-2007 12:22 AM

Iraq = A country which has been under heavy sanctions for YEARS, oil for food program etc.

Iran = A country who has not been under sanctions, which has given them the possibilities to buy weapons.

Ofcourse in the long run the US would beat Iran, there is no doubt.
Question is, how much is the US willing to pay to go to war with iran and why would the US do it? Iran is no threat to the US.

The war should be moved to Israel, the only country right now in the world who is a threat. Thats where the bombings should start.

Shakula 09-05-2007 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 13035368)
1. Iran will become a major threat to world peace, or 2. we will stop it with force. Those are the only two choices.

Thank goodness we have a man like GWB in office to make the right decision.

It won't be pretty. Iran is much bigger than Iraq, and has a stronger military.

And what information do you have that supports this?
The only real threats to world peace is coming from the US and Israel right now.

stev0 09-05-2007 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 13035319)
We beat Iraq down in a single month.

Not hard to do when they've been under sanctions for the last 10 years and didn't even have any long range weapons to defend themselves as per the agreement :2 cents:

shahab6 09-05-2007 12:39 AM

I doubt there will be a war with Iran. But it will be a interesting one.


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