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dropped9 09-27-2007 09:46 AM

Should I charge more then $10 per banner?
 
Ive been told that my skills have been increasing and I should really start charging more then $10 per banner. Do you think so? Ive always like the 10 per banner because it opened the door to many more customers for me.

Would $15 be too much of a raise? How about 12?

Some recent banners ive done are below:

http://www.notanotherdesigner.com/done/fs160x600.gif http://www.notanotherdesigner.com/done/fs120x600a.gif http://www.notanotherdesigner.com/done/fs160x600c.gif http://www.notanotherdesigner.com/done/fs160x600a.gif

GAMEFINEST 09-27-2007 09:53 AM

The customers you have bought banners from you shd get the 10.00 hookup for life..

dropped9 09-27-2007 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by GAMEFINEST (Post 13152230)
The customers you have bought banners from you shd get the 10.00 hookup for life..

Me love you long time...

GeXus 09-27-2007 09:59 AM

10... 15? It's 5 bucks... i don't imagine that's enough to deter anyone. You could always offer a bulk rate

Twisted Dave 09-27-2007 10:44 AM

In all honesty, yes you should be charging more. Not everyone can create banners that a) look good... b) catch the viewers eye... and c) make them wanna click.

I mean ... I don't know much about your work but it generally seems quite good ... $10 ... I mean ... seriously, over here, McDonalds pay more per hour and I think you should be charging based on the fact that you're a creative skilled person. You're charging for your time... but you should charge for your skill too ... :)

Dirty F 09-27-2007 10:55 AM

Uhm no. Those arent designs or anything. Its some letters on a ready to go pic. Im far from a designer and i can make those in 5 mins.

You could charge more if you would design the full banner (assuming you can) but these i wouldnt pay 10 bucks for even.

dropped9 09-27-2007 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Franck (Post 13152410)
Uhm no. Those arent designs or anything. Its some letters on a ready to go pic. Im far from a designer and i can make those in 5 mins.

Go for it then...

Starting now...

1:56

dropped9 09-27-2007 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Headless (Post 13152429)
Go for it then...

Starting now...

1:56

So sorry 5 minutes up....

guess you couldnt

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 09-27-2007 11:20 AM

I would go two rates:)
10 bucks for statics, 15 for animated.

Also price by size or you will end up doing half page ad's for 10 bucks.
Speaking of which expand your horizons a little and move into 1/2 page ad's:)

Your quality in design has definatly picked up dude goto new levels with it.

Dirty F 09-27-2007 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Headless (Post 13152470)
So sorry 5 minutes up....

guess you couldnt

Do you feel attacked or something? You ask for an opinion i give you a honest one without bashing you and you get annoyed?

Funny.

Dont ask for opinions if you cant handle them.

dropped9 09-27-2007 11:42 AM

Cant handle them? You said you could make a banner like that in 5 minutes... so I said go for it...

phasic 09-27-2007 11:42 AM

Can I see some more work? Hit me up interested.

Dirty F 09-27-2007 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Headless (Post 13152658)
Cant handle them? You said you could make a banner like that in 5 minutes... so I said go for it...

Give it up man, we can all read past that.

It annoyed you what i said.

DamageX 09-27-2007 11:47 AM

Supply and demand.

Deej 09-27-2007 11:49 AM

Heres what I started to consider when I sold banners or any design really.

Screw trying to make the price sound good for the client. You will only hurt yourself in the end.. Dont get me wrong, be fair. but dont put yourself out to satisfy the demand.

Theres a few things to consider. Skill and who can do this these days. Your hardware. What computer are you running? Did you just buy it? Did you buy it for your work? Then your software. Did you buy your Photoshop? I know I did and for anyone that has... Its fucking A expensive. I use fireworks for animated banners... theres another program.. (it came with my MX suite) also expensive... Time... how much time does it take you? Franck cannot make that banner in 5 minutes... half hour maybe...

Lets not get into flash and movie trailers...




The cost of good honest webmastering is rising... dont short yourself... and keep it real... in the end if you do both... you will have happy return clientele ...

dropped9 09-27-2007 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Franck (Post 13152679)
Give it up man, we can all read past that.

It annoyed you what i said.

Not really.

CDSmith 09-27-2007 12:04 PM

A client buying ad space a few months ago also wanted new creatives made for his site. I charged him $75 for:

1 static standard-sized banner
1 animated over-sized banner
1 animated button


And that's my "with ad package" rate. If he was buying just the graphics it would have been $100 bucks. Some of those banners are made of blendings of 2, 3 sometimes 4 different other images or photos.

And as far as I've ever known of it, most local web design houses charge $65/hr and up for graphics creation.


However, if you can bang out a decent banner in 10 minutes, then I suppose selling them for ten bucks apiece isn't raping yourself. I may be stuck in 5-year-ago mode, but I won't work for peanuts. Same with gallery designs, some guys sell them for next to nothing. I'll do 6 for $150, and that's as low as it gets with me.

I'm not a fulltime designer but I've done and sold my share of work over the years.

The Other Steve 09-27-2007 12:32 PM

Headless could you please hit me up on ICQ - I've been trying to contact you but my ICQ doesn't want to talk to yours. Hopefully it might work the other way.

Sosa 09-27-2007 12:34 PM

headles I like your work, and will need 3-4 more banners from you at the first of the month. I'll hit you up at the beginning of the week :)

polish_aristocrat 09-27-2007 12:40 PM

nice banners

Ditosta 09-27-2007 12:45 PM

I agree you should raise your prices but keep regular customers who have bought from you b4 at 10 bucks for life!

axelez 09-27-2007 01:22 PM

cool banners

candyflip 09-27-2007 02:55 PM

There are a few designers on here doing great banners and charge less than you. I'm not sure what your bulk rate is, but they're asking $599 for 100 static and/or animated.

If you're going to up your prices, start by raising it on all those clients you have who said you should raise them. :winkwink:

Dirty F 09-27-2007 03:07 PM

I really dont want to bash Headless here but i dont understand why people say he could charge more. Yes they are nice but look at it. Its 4 different pictures with the same text on them. Some of you are saying thats worth 60 bucks...

Seriously, thats retarded. Anybody with basic photoshop skills can make these in a few mins. And even better, after you made the first one which takes 5 mins the other 3 can be done in 2 mins each roughly.

I bet Headless can make some nice things but i dont consider these banners designs and i also dont think hes worth 60 bucks per 10 mins.

ridikuloz 09-27-2007 03:09 PM

charge whatever the customer would pay at most. if they lowball, bargain with em/

candyflip 09-27-2007 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Franck (Post 13153681)
I really dont want to bash Headless here but i dont understand why people say he could charge more. Yes they are nice but look at it. Its 4 different pictures with the same text on them. Some of you are saying thats worth 60 bucks...

Seriously, thats retarded. Anybody with basic photoshop skills can make these in a few mins. And even better, after you made the first one which takes 5 mins the other 3 can be done in 2 mins each roughly.

I bet Headless can make some nice things but i dont consider these banners designs and i also dont think hes worth 60 bucks per 10 mins.

You're not too far off, but like you said anyone with some basic knowledge of photoshop could do that. I'd venture to guess most people are clueless inside photoshop. I use it a bit less regularly than I have in the past these days, but I still learn something new or how to do something a different way all the time.

If what he's charging works for someone who doesn't know or can't...more power to headless. If wouldn't work for you or I, so we just don't put his services to use. Simple as that.

If they were cheaper or I didn't have to buy 100 at a time, I would be paying and not doing them all myself.

BAKO 09-27-2007 03:35 PM

good work

Dirty F 09-27-2007 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by WWC-Bako (Post 13153846)
good work

You couldnt do that yourself?

Emil 09-27-2007 03:42 PM

I would never pay $10/banner for something like that. You can probably make 10 banners like that in one hour. $100/hour isn't bad at all.

Chroma 09-27-2007 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emil (Post 13153868)
I would never pay $10/banner for something like that. You can probably make 10 banners like that in one hour. $100/hour isn't bad at all.

He said he could make 12 in an hour.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Franck (Post 13152410)
Uhm no. Those arent designs or anything. Its some letters on a ready to go pic. Im far from a designer and i can make those in 5 mins.

You could charge more if you would design the full banner (assuming you can) but these i wouldnt pay 10 bucks for even.


Tempest 09-27-2007 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 13152689)
Supply and demand.

What he said...

Dirty F 09-28-2007 10:22 AM

So what are you gonna do?

rolfodolfo 09-28-2007 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeXus (Post 13152263)
10... 15? It's 5 bucks... i don't imagine that's enough to deter anyone. You could always offer a bulk rate


Bulk is :thumbsup

xclusive 09-28-2007 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ (Post 13152547)
I would go two rates:)
10 bucks for statics, 15 for animated.

Also price by size or you will end up doing half page ad's for 10 bucks.
Speaking of which expand your horizons a little and move into 1/2 page ad's:)

Your quality in design has definatly picked up dude goto new levels with it.

Fuck me, I agree with AlienQ I have to go slit my wrist now. But before I do this is good advice from Alien :2 cents:

BAKO 09-28-2007 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Franck (Post 13153862)
You couldnt do that yourself?

Fuck yeah i can, i designed like thousand AVS sites back in my days

BAKO 09-28-2007 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Franck (Post 13157746)
So what are you gonna do?

I love it how you pump people up :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Dirty F 09-28-2007 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WWC-Bako (Post 13158144)
I love it how you pump people up :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

:winkwink:

Deej 09-28-2007 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Franck (Post 13158156)
:winkwink:

Franck is a Sexy Stud!

teg0 09-28-2007 12:51 PM

depends on how much time you spend on them

DamageX 09-29-2007 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teg0 (Post 13158540)
depends on how much time you spend on them

That's not true at all, it mostly depends on the going rate in the market, overall, for similar work, the competition, and how much the clients are willing to pay. No client's gonna give a flying fuck about how long you spend on them, as long as they get their orders delivered on time.


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