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Jet Redux 02-24-2008 07:17 PM

Eric: Now that Shap himself has admitted that GayTube.com had stolen content on it...
 
can i get unbanned?

Is it proof enough?


Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap
The site does not have any stolen content on it now. It is 100% clean and will remain that way. Was it 100% clean a week ago? Regretfully, no it wasn't. I did not authorize it but ultimately I take full responsibility for it.

gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=810316

Shap 02-24-2008 07:18 PM

Damn, do you need gfy money that bad?

Doctor Dre 02-24-2008 07:20 PM

You bring nothing to the board anyways... stay banned

Shap 02-24-2008 07:20 PM

You probably should not have claimed my sites were illegal. They were not illegal and never have been.

Jet Redux 02-24-2008 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 13827194)
Damn, do you need gfy money that bad?

Do you??

unleashxxx 02-24-2008 07:21 PM

what if i claimed you are a hypocrite piece of shit? ban me i could give a fuck less.

Jet Redux 02-24-2008 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Dre (Post 13827198)
You bring nothing to the board anyways... stay banned

Do you??

Jet Redux 02-24-2008 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 13827199)
You probably should not have claimed my sites were illegal.

But they were at the time the claim was maid.

Unlicenced content = illegal site.

stickyfingerz 02-24-2008 07:26 PM

I wish some of these twits would read up on user submitted content and the guidelines for having a site like that. In order to bypass 2257 you cannot actively remove content without following some guidelines. Signs of obvious cp, beast vids etc can be removed. Once you begin monitoring and removing content sans dmca request you lose the 2257 loophole. Whatever though not worth even arguing about.

stickyfingerz 02-24-2008 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jet Redux (Post 13827211)
But they were at the time the claim was maid.

Unlicenced content = illegal site.

No actually it doesnt.

L-Pink 02-24-2008 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 13827215)
I wish some of these twits would read up on user submitted content and the guidelines for having a site like that. In order to bypass 2257 you cannot actively remove content without following some guidelines. Signs of obvious cp, beast vids etc can be removed. Once you begin monitoring and removing content sans dmca request you lose the 2257 loophole. Whatever though not worth even arguing about.

You are so much smarter than you look :thumbsup :1orglaugh

stickyfingerz 02-24-2008 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 13827224)
You are so much smarter than you look :thumbsup :1orglaugh

Touche!! :winkwink:

stickyfingerz 02-24-2008 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 13827224)
You are so much smarter than you look :thumbsup :1orglaugh

Damn forgot..

TOUCHE!!

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lazycash 02-24-2008 07:32 PM

Oh no, if Jet isn't unbanned how is he going to collect on all his contest winnings that are due him because the contest rules clearly state that you must have an active gfy account. I say we just take all his contest winnings that are due him and buy his neighbors some xmas presents.

Tempest 02-24-2008 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 13827223)
No actually it doesnt.

<edit> nevermind.. read your statement about 2257 etc. But given nothing in that law has been tested in court, your fantasy that it's not illegal is just that.. a fantasy..

Chio 02-24-2008 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 13827227)
Touche!! :winkwink:

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BAKO 02-24-2008 07:34 PM

hahaahahahaahaha

Jet Redux 02-24-2008 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 13827223)
No actually it doesnt.

That's a pretty bold statement. Care to back it up?

papill0n 02-24-2008 07:38 PM

this aint going to go away

stickyfingerz 02-24-2008 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tempest (Post 13827241)
<edit> nevermind.. read your statement about 2257 etc. But given nothing in that law has been tested in court, your fantasy that it's not illegal is just that.. a fantasy..

Does everyone really not understand how "user submitted" content works? As was said before. Currently this is a huge gray area. Until legislation is passed there was nothing illegal. Infringement? Yes, but technically a dmca is required for the site to remove the content. If the site starts policing the content and removes anything other than obviously "illegal" cp, beasty stuff, etc, at that point the 2257 loophole falls apart, and they would be open to 2257 inspection if they are in the states. Do I think its a good thing? Yes and no. The laws need to be streamlined more in order to fix things.

I just get tired of people trying to make a name by attacking whoever they can without having any idea of the facts and circumstances. Ban hammer needs to be thrown more often. :2 cents:

pocketkangaroo 02-24-2008 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jet Redux (Post 13827255)
That's a pretty bold statement. Care to back it up?

Let me introduce you to a site you may have heard of:

https://youtube.com

Jet Redux 02-24-2008 07:43 PM

You are talking strictly laws here.

I didn't mean it that way.

What i meant was that the site was illegal in a broad term - considered by adult business community - that is, having unlicensed content on it and giving it away for free.

Using your logic, torrent sites and rapidshare type site are perfectly okay, which is NOT the case.

Jet Redux 02-24-2008 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 13827266)
Let me introduce you to a site you may have heard of:

youtube.com

And?

Just because it is owned by someone with deep pockets does not make it legal.

But just like in case with Shap, that fact has great influence on some peoples oppinion and actions.

stickyfingerz 02-24-2008 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jet Redux (Post 13827273)
You are talking strictly laws here.

I didn't mean it that way.

What i meant was that the site was illegal in a broad term - considered by adult business community - that is, having unlicensed content on it and giving it away for free.

Using your logic, torrent sites and rapidshare type site are perfectly okay, which is NOT the case.


If you are going to run a "user submitted" video site and be able to do it there is only 2 ways.

1. somehow obtain 2257 docs from each user of the site. Run it like a cam site say like Ifriends etc. People are not getting paid, so very unlikely you can make this happen.

2. you allow user submitted content. You cannot police the content and pick and choose with what is uploaded. You remove content only when a copyright holder submits a dmca request. You only remove obvious illegal material such as Cp, and beasty, rape scenes, etc.

Jet Redux 02-24-2008 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 13827281)
You only remove obvious illegal material such as Cp, and beasty, rape scenes, etc.

This arguement is flawed on so many levels, I don't even want to go in there.

How about an hour long user submitted video? Is it "obvious" enough?

seeric 02-24-2008 07:57 PM

i soooooooooooooooooo hope eric leaves your ass banned.

worthless contest sig whores should be not seen or heard.

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

Jet Redux 02-24-2008 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A1R3K (Post 13827310)
i soooooooooooooooooo hope eric leaves your ass banned.

worthless contest sig whores should be not seen or heard.

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

A1R3K
Posts: 33,310

You are the one to talk! :1orglaugh

Go post more "hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii" or "I'm platipus" threads.

stickyfingerz 02-24-2008 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jet Redux (Post 13827299)
This arguement is flawed on so many levels, I don't even want to go in there.

How about an hour long user submitted video? Is it "obvious" enough?

Well the way for the site to get around that is to limit the length of videos, and limit file sizes. Say 10 minute videos be the limit and say 175mb files.

Just curious what dog do you have in the fight? Are tube sites somehow going to decrease your contest earnings? Or have tube sites slowed down the number of packages left outside doorways in your building that you can "borrow"

Jet Redux 02-24-2008 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 13827321)
Well the way for the site to get around that is to limit the length of videos, and limit file sizes. Say 10 minute videos be the limit and say 175mb files.

Who's to decide what lenght or size the video should be?

Bottom line is: sites offering unlicenced content are unacceptible no matter how you spin it.

Shap 02-24-2008 08:06 PM

jet email me at tw-shap at twistys dot com.

woj 02-24-2008 08:10 PM

You tried to create drama about a well known + respected gfyer, it backfired... now quit whining and accept the consequences like a man... :2 cents:

Jet Redux 02-24-2008 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 13827341)
You tried to create drama about a well known + respected gfyer, it backfired... now quit whining and accept the consequences like a man... :2 cents:

Respected? LOL. Not lately.

As for drama, check the GFY rules page. It clearly states that drama is very welcome. And no rules were broken - more evidence had been presented than it was enough.

Oh, and Shap actually posted that he loved the attention that Twistys was getting from all the drama. So why did he run crying to the mods to ban me and lock the thread?

dropped9 02-24-2008 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A1R3K (Post 13827310)
i soooooooooooooooooo hope eric leaves your ass banned.

worthless contest sig whores should be not seen or heard.

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

AMEN!@!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JakeR 02-24-2008 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 13827341)
You tried to create drama about a well known + respected gfyer, it backfired... now quit whining and accept the consequences like a man... :2 cents:

:thumbsup

Fap 02-24-2008 08:23 PM

I smell DRAMMAAAAAA

JFK 02-24-2008 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by banthis (Post 13827394)
I smell DRAMMAAAAAA

It's been a good week for it:Oh crap

Tempest 02-24-2008 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 13827263)
Does everyone really not understand how "user submitted" content works?

There's a huge difference between user "submitted" and user "created"... You simply cannot legally use anything that's been copyrighted without the rights to use it... You can talk about "gray areas" and split hairs, but at the end of the day everyone knows what's right and wrong.

stickyfingerz 02-24-2008 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tempest (Post 13827698)
There's a huge difference between user "submitted" and user "created"... You simply cannot legally use anything that's been copyrighted without the rights to use it... You can talk about "gray areas" and split hairs, but at the end of the day everyone knows what's right and wrong.

Yes what everyone knows, and what would take a federal bite out of a sites ass are two different things.

pornask 02-24-2008 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 13827341)
You tried to create drama about a well known + respected gfyer, it backfired... now quit whining and accept the consequences like a man... :2 cents:

no, he created drama about a scumbag and a content thief

stickyfingerz 02-24-2008 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornask (Post 13827724)
no, he created drama about a scumbag and a content thief

You need to be more specific. Not sure who you are talking about. Can you put that all in one complete sentence?

Like

He created drama about (insert name here) a scumbag and a content thief. Just to be clear.


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