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Simon-interaid 10-26-2002 07:59 PM

Shooting again?
 
Just heard on the news some kid went on a shooting rampage in Oklahoma.


2 dead 6 wounded.

Maybe its time for tougher gun laws?

SetTheWorldonFire 10-26-2002 08:02 PM

here we go! :glugglug

frankfortuna 10-26-2002 08:03 PM

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Sly_RJ 10-26-2002 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Simon-interaid
Just heard on the news some kid went on a shooting rampage in Oklahoma.


2 dead 6 wounded.

Maybe its time for tougher gun laws?

Maybe it's time to start using the ruler on kids in school again.

pr0 10-26-2002 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Simon-interaid
Just heard on the news some kid went on a shooting rampage in Oklahoma.


2 dead 6 wounded.

Maybe its time for tougher gun laws?

excuse me...do you live in the U.S.?

you already have tough gun laws in canada...so maybe its time you go back to suckling the maple syrup out of moms teet.

Brown Bear 10-26-2002 08:28 PM

Have you seen this yet?

Bowling For Columbine

Spoonie Luv 10-26-2002 11:15 PM

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Originally posted by Brown Bear
Have you seen this yet?

Bowling For Columbine

Don't mistake hype for journalism

nocostporn 10-26-2002 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Simon-interaid

Maybe its time for tougher gun laws?


The government has already got to you with that line huh..thats the plan

untitled 10-26-2002 11:43 PM

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Originally posted by nocostporn



The government has already got to you with that line huh..thats the plan

yeah we need our guns, what if the government ordered the military to attack civilians? or what if america was invaded?

OMG i'm so worried!

CDSmith 10-27-2002 12:31 AM

The government should announce "All civilians with spotless criminal records will be issued a hand gun for personal protection"

Making it tough for innocent people to own a gun is stupid. The crooks buy them illegally quite easily, so all gun control does is make the public easier to rob, rape and pillage. Stupid.

BJ 10-27-2002 12:33 AM

guns are good........ bad parenting, well, that's plain ignorance.

Rocky 10-27-2002 12:34 AM

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Originally posted by pr0
you already have tough gun laws in canada...so maybe its time you go back to suckling the maple syrup out of moms teet.
thanks for reminding me

gotta invite mom over for pancakes today
:Graucho

drunkdollars 10-27-2002 12:36 AM

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digi 10-27-2002 01:22 AM

maybe bush should attack american highschools instead of Iraq.. seems psychos at schools kills more americans than Saddam.

nuclei 10-27-2002 01:42 AM

Gun Control is a good thing....

being able to hit what you aim at rocks!

Joe Sixpack 10-27-2002 01:48 AM

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Originally posted by Spoonie Luv


Don't mistake hype for journalism

Huh?

UnseenWorld 10-27-2002 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Simon-interaid
Just heard on the news some kid went on a shooting rampage in Oklahoma.

2 dead 6 wounded.

Maybe its time for tougher gun laws?

Gun deaths per 100,000:

U.S.A. 14.24
Mexico 12.69
Argentina 8.93
Northern Ireland 6.63
Switzerland 5.31
France 5.15
Canada 4.31
Israel 2.91
Australia 2.65
Italy 2.44
New Zealand 2.38
Denmark 2.09
Sweden 1.92
Germany 1.24
Ireland 0.97
Spain 0.78
Netherlands 0.70
Scotland 0.54
England and Wales 0.41

Canada has about as many guns per capita as the US, but 2/3 less gun related deaths. Even with all the strife in Israel, it has only 20% of the gun-related deaths of the U.S.

The problem obviously isn't guns, it's Americans.

Brown Bear 10-27-2002 02:02 AM

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Originally posted by UnseenWorld

Canada has about as many guns per capita as the US, but 2/3 less gun related deaths. Even with all the strife in Israel, it has only 20% of the gun-related deaths of the U.S.

The problem obviously isn't guns, it's Americans.

Thats exactly what the movie Bowling For Columbine is about.

Why does the US have so many gun murders?

Pornwolf 10-27-2002 02:02 AM

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Originally posted by UnseenWorld
The problem obviously isn't guns, it's Americans.
Yeah you are right. You wanna make something out of it? Huh?

Don't make me pop the trunk on yer candy asses.

Joe Sixpack 10-27-2002 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CDSmith
The government should announce "All civilians with spotless criminal records will be issued a hand gun for personal protection"

Making it tough for innocent people to own a gun is stupid. The crooks buy them illegally quite easily, so all gun control does is make the public easier to rob, rape and pillage. Stupid.

Y'know I keep hearing this argument against gun control again and again and every time I'm less convinced. It seems to me the argument has quite a few flaws.

I'd say a sizable proportion of your murders by firearm every year are committed by people with no criminal record and up until the muder itself no intent to commit a crime. Many of these offenses are spur of the moment acts and ownership of a weapon or the ability to buy one easily makes them far more likely to occur.

Also, surely fewer guns in the community would reduce firearm death by accident as well as firearm suicides.

I've never needed a gun and I don't know anyone who owns one. I've never seen one used in the commission of a crime and neither has anyone I know. Not being able to own one has certainly had no impact on my life whatsoever.

Then you need a law introduced that says any crime that is committed with a firearm is punishable by a mandatory life sentence.

I'm almost certain you would see instances of gun related crime plummet.

Seaz 10-27-2002 02:14 AM

what is up with the kill ratio these days cant these kids point a shot .... i mean 2 day 6 injured :BangBang: how hard is it to put 1 bullet in the head 1 in the heart..... dont they watch the history channel or something :ak47:

Cal 10-27-2002 02:16 AM

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Originally posted by Spoonie Luv


Don't mistake hype for journalism

Does the film claim to be a documentary? I'll try not to mistake ignorance for arrogance.

Propaganda? Or facts.

Ironically one of my friends from Vancouver said there was a shooting downtown tonight, one of the few a year that they have. Canada has 7 million guns, 10 million people, and something like SEVENTY gun deaths a year. We have eleven thousand. Whatever the solution is, we need to be working towards it.

C.

Amputate Your Head 10-27-2002 02:18 AM

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Originally posted by Simon-interaid

Maybe its time for tougher gun laws?

fuck you AND your stinkin' gun laws... punk ass.

Brown Bear 10-27-2002 02:24 AM

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Originally posted by Cal
Canada has 7 million guns, 10 million people, and something like SEVENTY gun deaths a year. We have eleven thousand. Whatever the solution is, we need to be working towards it.

C.

Canada has 31 million people 10 million families and 7 million guns.

Brown Bear 10-27-2002 02:26 AM

Every week, the US has more gun deaths than Canada has in an entire year.

Seaz 10-27-2002 02:27 AM

Look you wanna know what the key is.... sure not having guns is nice but in canada we have hunting rifles.... in the us you have AK47 M16 UZI these arent to kill a rabit or to defend yourself there to go out and kill people .

Look lets get rid of guns is great but lets start with the assault weapons first :ak47:

Brown Bear 10-27-2002 02:31 AM

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Originally posted by Seaz
Look you wanna know what the key is.... sure not having guns is nice but in canada we have hunting rifles.... in the us you have AK47 M16 UZI these arent to kill a rabit or to defend yourself there to go out and kill people .

Look lets get rid of guns is great but lets start with the assault weapons first :ak47:

Good point.

Nobody needs an AK47 anymore than they need their own SCUD missiles. They're only good for killing humans.

UnseenWorld 10-27-2002 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Seaz
Look you wanna know what the key is.... sure not having guns is nice but in canada we have hunting rifles.... in the us you have AK47 M16 UZI these arent to kill a rabit or to defend yourself there to go out and kill people .

Look lets get rid of guns is great but lets start with the assault weapons first :ak47:

I'd be willing to bet that assaut rifles and other rapid-fire weapons account for very few gun deaths. Most people killed by a gun in the US a shot with a cheap pistol.

jqw736145 10-27-2002 09:37 AM

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Originally posted by frankfortuna
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Moses!

UnseenWorld 10-27-2002 09:38 AM

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Originally posted by Brown Bear


Good point.

Nobody needs an AK47 anymore than they need their own SCUD missiles. They're only good for killing humans.

Scud missile? The suitcase A-bomb is what has the government sweating now. And unlike a truck full of explosives as in Oklahoma City, such a bomb WILL evaporate all the physical evidence along with the explosion. We will literally have NO CLUE who blew St. Louis off the map unless someone takes credit for it.

Manny The Freak 10-27-2002 09:39 AM

They`re back!:(

Machete_ 10-27-2002 09:41 AM

Are we gonna have en new post every time some american crackhead shoot somebody now?

playa 10-27-2002 09:41 AM

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Originally posted by PureMeds
guns are good........ bad parenting, well, that's plain ignorance.

good point, bad parents should not own guns

jqw736145 10-27-2002 09:42 AM

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Originally posted by ebus_dk
Are we gonna have en new post every time some american crackhead shoot somebody now?
yes

quiet 10-27-2002 09:45 AM

from my warm, mittened hands...

DrGuile 10-27-2002 09:55 AM

To Quote that Michael Moores fella:

"Of course, had Congress not caved in to the NRA we would have known after the first HOUR of the first day of the killings three weeks ago that those bullets were coming out of a rifle that belonged to John Williams/Mohammad. How would we know this? It's right there in the state records in New Jersey: this gun was purchased this past July, under the name of John Mohammad!

Many more people died needlessly in the days and weeks after that first hour of the shootings, and every one of their deaths could have probably been prevented had we had a national ballistics fingerprinting data base.

Thank you, Mr. Heston for this unnecessary carnage. Thank you, Mr. Bush, for supporting Mr. Heston and his group's agenda -- which protects only the criminals.

And thank you, Bushmaster Firearms, Inc., for providing the gun used to shoot the 13 people in the DC area. Bushmaster's president, Richard E. Dyke, was the Maine finance chairman of George W. Bush's 2000 Presidential campaign. According to Business Week, Dyke had to step down as Bush's finance chair "after reporters began quizzing him about his business dealings. Bushmaster Firearms Inc., is notorious for using loopholes to sidestep a 1994 federal ban on assault rifles." Bush and Bushmaster. Too tragically perfect. "

DrGuile 10-27-2002 09:57 AM

also, I believe the difference between Canada gun's death and the USA is handguns.

quite simply.

Ive never seen a handgun.... I dont know anyone that owns one... they are very rare in Canada... and thank God for that.

.:Frog:. 10-27-2002 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by UnseenWorld
The problem obviously isn't guns, it's Americans.
Nah that isn't true.
The problem is the type of gun.

The gun owners in Canada own rifles or shotguns for hunting animals, and we don't carry them around very often. In the US many people carry handguns so they always have a gun with them.

That is half the problem, the other problem is Americans being more violent.
More killers and idiots in the US then Canada for sure.

jqw736145 10-27-2002 10:40 AM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

fuck you AND your stinkin' gun laws... punk ass.

and which gun laws would they be?

SR 10-27-2002 11:06 AM

It's pretty clear that the countries where you are allowed to have a gun have a much higher amount of gun deads.

I don't see why americans want to keep their guns so badly.


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