So is this what the industry is coming too..?
 

Everyone steal from everyone..?

Until you get a notice of course, then you take it down and steal another from someone else to replace it..?


I know of big name companies doing it?!

Good sig spot!

that's about it - the only adult company with the balls to sue anybody is Titan a gay content producer.

this industry doesn't learn and it will never learn. The best you can do is work hard until it all blows up. Then people will actually have the balls to wonder why.

no you don't


fake drama

Sometimes I wish the mob really WAS involved in this business. A few broken legs early on, and the tube site bullshit would have ended before it was ever able to get this far.

We speak of our selves as an industry. And we Pretend that the " Shows " bring us together, but they dont.

They bring a few together, and nothing ever really gets done.

some people will never be stolen from;)

everyone's always been out for themselves

We are ALL being robbed by the tube sites. Even if they aren't stealing your content specifically, they are still distributing free porn, which cuts into everyone's bottom line.

I think the saddest part is that many of you know who these people are, and yet you are still willing to associate with them - online, at shows, through their affiliate programs, etc.

No blacklists, no broken legs, everyone just bends over and takes it - pathetic!

It's so bad a blacklist wont work. I am working on a whitelist but honestly so few people care based on what I have read in the thread from choopa that trying to organize an above board coalition of adult sites is a waste.

It's in every industry. Don't feel special. Ever seen those no-name cereals that have their boxes printed to resemble big name brands? The little coke dealer buys from the big coke dealer...steps all over it...then resells it. The retro car fad. Coke vs. Pepsi, etc etc.

Creativity and thinkers are few and far between. Everyone wants to make as much cash as possible while doing the least amount of work. Everybody copies and steals from everyone else. Nothing is new and it's ALL been done a million times over.

It's not what this industry is coming to...it's right where it's always been. The innovators vs. the duplicators.

thats false. give credit where it is due... tucker sued pornkings and won. i think he also is still in the litigation process with guerillatraffic as well. there are other people with the balls to do it.

dont know if you knew but its not an easy to thing to prove and then sue about, with the easy access to shell and offshore companies in various jurisdictions its not like you can just point and shoot. there are many others researching their enemies and waiting to find a good way to win against them its not easy its quite hard and extremely expensive. a good warrior chooses his battlefield. ;)

well said.

Are you not a producer yourself..? Go sue someone..

Open your eyes... You can see them all around..

What he said....

only because the people who matter trust their own whitelist they keep in their head and the people who don't matter, well........... They don't matter. :winkwink:

Everyone matters to someone...:winkwink:

people stealing from each other.....big asses ....wet pussies.... sounds like adult to me....

dont you guys get tired of posting this same shit everyday.

Mainstream or any other business is in no way any cleaner or more moral.

Look at thia thread here and pay attention.. http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/846954-please-visit-site-leave-advices-comment-post14638516.html

People are actually helping this guy... lmao

Who the fuck you talking to..?

I am not some surfer nobody trying to give my two cents son.. :winkwink:

That is the truth... And when the economy is down the snakes come out..

:1orglaugh

:2 cents:

I hope that was a joke.

Either say who it is, or keep quiet!

What makes you think that they themselves would not of been behind the tubes if they were in this business still? Some ethical delima about them stealing or something would stop them? I seem to recall that they used to like making copies of other peoples shit and keeping all of the money.

i think its great... nothing like seeing an industry implode on itself because no one can organize this clusterfuck of a business...

this is darwinism at its best... :2 cents:

B2B infringement is one thing, surfer infringement is another.

Since surfer infringement makes up almost all infringement, I think it's a fair question to ask which companies besides Titan are taking action against Joe Surfer. You can point your finger at tube site owners all day, but Joe Surfer is the one actually uploading the material. Unless you stop him, you don't stop the infringement. You might be able to get his favorite sites shut down, but be certain that he will just go somewhere else to upload.

Not quite the same..
Let someone steal loads of Kellogg's products and give them away..
I doubt they would sit and do nothing..

Nothing illegal about generic brands or good ol' competition..

Stealing and giving the stolen product away is not nice..

When were you ever recruited for the take down team...? :error

Expect a visit...

Bingo.....

Exactly....

I'm not just talking to you. This is the same post I read 10x a day.

Its round circle, man