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Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE 12-11-2008 05:48 PM

Beware of Global Acces!
 
Repost from another board, for AlienQ
Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ
Beware of Global Acces.

Global Access Contacts me to design a new front end site for them. The deal is $1600.00

For the Front End Design.
The FLash Design
The template break down page for them to integrate text information to.

Before even the HTML process I went through over 20 revisions of the design. I worked with Yo Hann Lynn on the sites production.

Alas the design is finished. I get approval to cut it up.
I cut it up. Guess what! They want it recut with text removed on the front end so it can be done with Hypertext instead.

Sure thats fine. I am very explicit about the nav bar area these area's are always tricky and before I cut it up I ask vehemently the Navbars are correct right? Yes they are fine! I remove text re orient the design and start cutting it up again.

But wait there is more.
The Navbar that was approved now has to be all redone, new button add's. Thats after I cut the site a 2nd time.

The Front end page is finally done after almost a week of adjustments. I get to work on the flash. I make a minor flash presentation that fits the design, its functional and I was explicit about the information that was to go in that part of the order.

So I am pretty much done right? Nope they redefine what the completion is. So they tell me hey you goto take the curtrent information from our website and integrate the text content to!

Huh? Orly? Awright...
Now mind you folks I did not charge extra for it. To keep things amicable I went and did it at no cost.

At any rate the site is completed, the guy wants to point out tables that I was told to copy from his site and put it in the new one.

I do not know if he does not have the money to pay me, won't pay me, thinks he can kick a designer around or what not. I put alot of time into this guy and his project. Yes the project was late largely due to requested fixes and changes that were incredibly minor to extensively major.

I was enormously respectful during the whole process and patient till today. Where I called em a fucken crook.

Here is the ORGINAL WORK ORDER: >
>
>
> Client Details
> Point of contact:
> EMAIL:
> Phone:
> Company Address:
>
> PROJECT
> Graphic Design Services
>
>
> WORK PLAN AND PRICING
> Creative Design Layout and HTML Optimization.
>
> SITE PROJECT : Global Access site design
> Logo Advancement, Design layout front end, Detailed Flash runtime
> presentation for front page layout integration, base template for break
> down pages with additional graphics for core pages in main navigation,
> Iconography for supplemental graphics to the over all layout.
> Site optimization cut up to base html formated pages.
>
> ** See Below
>
> Project total: $1750.00
>
> Amount Due: $875.00


Now even on this I reduced the price to $1600.00 total!
I recieved $800.00 and no matter how hard I tried for this project to get completed there was always a funny hang up some sort of fix, or correction. This guy took me to the full length of my patience. If you done business with me you would know I am very respectful and work to make everything come together smoothly.

Here is the Finished Project:
http://www.ialien.com/clients/globalacces/index.html

At this point I do not expect this guy to come forward and do whats right and pay me the final amount due. Which is only a lousy 800 bucks.

I do not reccomend doing business with this company. If he is gonna rip a guy off like me...
Oh my what he can do to you when it comes to handling any of your transactions.


Due 12-11-2008 05:59 PM

Reply from another board for Due (me)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Due (Post 322210)
Here is a few things to remember Alien.
We paid about 2 months ago first portion of the payment, expecting the design to be done within 2-3 weeks.
This was not the case, in fact you did not manage to finish it in time for WA LA where we stressed we needed it.
Even though you burned us once (first deadline), promised to fix it and have it ready anyway in time for LA (2nd deadline) we decided to still try and work with you as you took already a lot of our time.
We made a clear agreement with what should be fixed and set a third deadline.
One of the points was:
"5. Add text to the following pages and redesign pages. Do not use same designs as are on the current Global Acces website. New designs will be the responsibility of the designer, iAlien, to come up with. Final approval of designs will be by Global Acces"

Today the 12th of december my time (9. All changes listed above will be made to the specifications of Global Acces and a completed site will be presented to Global Acces no later than December 10th, 2008.) after the deadline have passed, you deliver "your new design", while I was studying it I commented to you, "these looks really a lot like our old pages", I reviewed several pages and noticed our new design was a complete copy of our old design as it would appear if the stylesheets was broken, then I checked your source code and could see the EXACT SAME HTML as I worked on fixing when our previous designer delivered his work to get the stylesheets to work correct.
For a quick summery:
1: You are late again (first time shame on you, second time shame on me, third time WTF am I doing)
2: You copied a design and tried to deliver it as your own
3: Not even all pages was finished
4: We even agreed to pay you extra for work you already accepted at one price
5: I still didn't find the icongraphics to deliver a visual presentation on the specified points

This was just a really quick summery, I don't have time to deal with someone that can't finish a simple design within 2 months.

The fact that you used an execuse that you are late because you have other clients doesn't really help me


baddog 12-11-2008 06:07 PM

I knew there would be two sides to this story. The only thing that surprises me is that Due even gave him a shot in the first place.

alias 12-11-2008 06:18 PM

I was feeling all sympathetic until I looked at the site, it kinda sux.

JFK 12-11-2008 06:56 PM

Alien burns bridges faster than they can build them. I had replied on the original board that the thread was posted on. I will repeat it here. Due is one of the mellowest guys you would ever want to do business with !

His start has not been smooth on these shores. Right off the start , being fucked over by Banana Claire and her boss. All I can say is , I have been dealing with Due since May of this year, we had a contract for 5 figure sum. He has totally fulfilled his obligations to my complete satisfaction.

My question to who ever reads this thread is, would you still want to work with someone who has missed 3 important deadlines ?
Alien has been given chances to rectify the problems, he has not done so. What is one to do ? What would you do, if you were in Due's shoes ?

CyberHustler 12-11-2008 07:02 PM

My sig deserves this spot!

chupachups 12-11-2008 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFK (Post 15180854)
What would you do, if you were in Due's shoes ?

Exactly what he did - if I could have contained myself that is.

JFK 12-11-2008 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Decker (Post 15180868)
My sig deserves this spot!

right on:thumbsup

IamShaider 12-11-2008 07:15 PM

this is very interesting..

quantum-x 12-11-2008 07:17 PM

AlienQ sucks?
Who would have thought.

He invented sucking.

lagcam 12-11-2008 07:31 PM

I think it's clear who we should BEWARE OF here.

Serious lack of judgement to take this into the public forum AND question the business ethics and practices of Global Acces just because there is a dispute in an unrelated matter.

Threads like this don't do the designer (or designers generally) any favors. There is risk in every business transaction. Somebody is always the wrong side of the money.

This reminds us that we should always be careful to ensure that who is the right side of the money can be trusted to deliver.

Domain Diva 12-11-2008 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFK (Post 15180854)
His start has not been smooth on these shores. Right off the start , being fucked over by Banana Claire and her boss. All I can say is , I have been dealing with Due since May of this year, we had a contract for 5 figure sum.

JFK ,2 sides exsist to every story and from your own admission above it would look to any viewer what side you would favour due to business interests.

Firstly my business is mine and yours is yours,if I have a problem with anyone l deal with it in a discreet and l hope professinal manner.

Yes a dispute does exsist with Global Acces, and is getting handled via ongoing email and icq with Due.

It will be resolved to everyones mutual satisfaction without any drama

So please leave me out of your comments concerning a situation you only have part infomation about.

Thanks

JFK 12-11-2008 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XXXTV Claire (Post 15180942)
JFK ,2 sides exsist to every story and from your own admission above it would look to any viewer what side you would favour due to business interests.

Firstly my business is mine and yours is yours,if I have a problem with anyone l deal with it in a discreet and l hope professinal manner.

Yes a dispute does exsist with Global Acces, and is getting handled via ongoing email and icq with Due.

It will be resolved to everyones mutual satisfaction without any drama

So please leave me out of your comments concerning a situation you only have part infomation about.

Thanks


Why dont you just pay him what you owe ???

CyberHustler 12-11-2008 07:41 PM


http://www.ialien.com/clients/globalacces/index.html

does look a heck of a lot better than...

http://www.global-acces.com/

In my honest opinion.

quantum-x 12-11-2008 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XXXTV Claire (Post 15180942)
Firstly my business is mine and yours is yours,if I have a problem with anyone l deal with it in a discreet and l hope professinal manner.

Note from an observer. I could believe the above JFK said it, but hearing you attempt to lay claim you're either professional or discreet is ridiculous.

JFK 12-11-2008 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Decker (Post 15180954)

http://www.ialien.com/clients/globalacces/index.html

does look a heck of a lot better than...

http://www.global-acces.com/

In my honest opinion.

Thanks, No one questioned Aliens talent:2 cents:

CyberHustler 12-11-2008 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFK (Post 15180991)
Thanks, No one questioned Aliens talent:2 cents:

Actually, someone did.

JFK 12-11-2008 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Decker (Post 15180994)
Actually, someone did.

:1orglaugh Ok , ok ........

CyberHustler 12-11-2008 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFK (Post 15181001)
:1orglaugh Ok , ok ........

http://i348.photobucket.com/albums/q...imated_gif.gif

Domain Diva 12-11-2008 08:06 PM

JFK,

A contractual dispute means just that,and as l said it is ongoing and getting dealt with in a professional way and concerns only the parties involved.


It is of no help to either side you making comments and no drama exsists.

I will not be confirming or denying any comments ,true or false regarding this matter as it would not serve the best interests of all.

Thanks

Domain Diva 12-11-2008 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quantum-x (Post 15180965)
Note from an observer. I could believe the above JFK said it, but hearing you attempt to lay claim you're either professional or discreet is ridiculous.

well l try sometimes quantum - x even if l dont succeed :Oh crap

CyberHustler 12-11-2008 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XXXTV Claire (Post 15181013)
JFK,

A contractual dispute means just that,and as l said it is ongoing and getting dealt with in a professional way and concerns only the parties involved.


It is of no help to either side you making comments and no drama exsists.

I will not be confirming or denying any comments ,true or false regarding this matter as it would not serve the best interests of all.

Thanks

Please show your tits...

sicone 12-11-2008 08:09 PM

This thread is full of twists and turns already

spunkmister 12-11-2008 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Decker (Post 15181022)
Please show your tits...

dude shes already denied being content....she's a serious PR guru....

sicone 12-11-2008 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XXXTV Claire (Post 15181013)
... I will not be confirming or denying any comments ,true or false regarding this matter as it would not serve the best interests of all....

Wouldn't the best course of action be not commenting at all about anything?

I mean I'm no lawyer, but my GFY law degree says that sometimes its best to just shut up and toll with the flow... but again I'm no lawyer

:pimp

sicone 12-11-2008 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spunkmister (Post 15181029)
dude shes already denied being content....she's a serious PR guru....

Xbiz TV Award Winning Craigslist Erotic Service House Cleaners, at your service... $120.00 per hr

CamTraffic 12-11-2008 08:16 PM

that sucks, hope they can get it settle...
the design looks good but a deadline is a deadline...

MarkMan 12-11-2008 08:17 PM

http://www.ialien.com/clients/globalacces/index.html


Wow

nice job

spunkmister 12-11-2008 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sicone (Post 15181037)
Xbiz TV Award Winning Craigslist Erotic Service House Cleaners, at your service... $120.00 per hr

yup and for $50k she will walk around in my companies t-shirt and take tickets at the door...who says you dont get good value for money anymore?

JFK 12-11-2008 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XXXTV Claire (Post 15181013)
JFK,

A contractual dispute means just that,and as l said it is ongoing and getting dealt with in a professional way and concerns only the parties involved.


It is of no help to either side you making comments and no drama exsists.

I will not be confirming or denying any comments ,true or false regarding this matter as it would not serve the best interests of all.

Thanks

Just PAY The Guy !!! You have been giving him the runaround for months. It is people like you, who give this business a bad name:2 cents: Besides did'nt you retire from this board and go back to school ? Should of stayed that way, your credibility on here, is less than ZERO:2 cents:

Due 12-11-2008 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Decker (Post 15180954)

http://www.ialien.com/clients/globalacces/index.html

does look a heck of a lot better than...

http://www.global-acces.com/

In my honest opinion.

Problem is when 3 deadlines is passed already and the site is still not done we need to look at other options to get a site done, last time we extended the deadline we increased the pay for the job but that did not help.

Domain Diva 12-11-2008 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spunkmister (Post 15181029)
dude shes already denied being content....she's a serious PR guru....

A guru ummmmmmmmmmm l dont think so ! lol

tony286 12-11-2008 08:23 PM

jfk is on fire tonight.

spunkmister 12-11-2008 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XXXTV Claire (Post 15181053)
A guru ummmmmmmmmmm l dont think so ! lol

Quick! Post a pic of you with a banana to divert attention....is the ex Head of Sony Asia still lurking around? or did he get called back to the head office to help with the current financial crisis?

JFK 12-11-2008 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 15181056)
jfk is on fire tonight.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:winkwink:

Domain Diva 12-11-2008 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFK (Post 15181047)
Just PAY The Guy !!! You have been giving him the runaround for months. It is people like you, who give this business a bad name:2 cents: Besides did'nt you retire from this board and go back to school ? Should of stayed that way, your credibility on here, is less than ZERO:2 cents:



No I didnt retire JFK , I had to cut my hours back and limit what l can do because of starting school ,yes.

CyberHustler 12-11-2008 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spunkmister (Post 15181029)
dude shes already denied being content....she's a serious PR guru....

Oh yeah?

http://www.maidinheavenonline.com/_SJP5462.jpg

http://www.maidinheavenonline.com/_SJP5500.jpg

Who dat?

spunkmister 12-11-2008 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Decker (Post 15181069)

ahhh I see what happened...sarcasm doesnt seem to translate across the interwebs... ;)

CyberHustler 12-11-2008 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spunkmister (Post 15181077)
ahhh I see what happened...sarcasm doesnt seem to translate across the interwebs... ;)

Nah, it translates... just wanted to post those pics and saw the opportunity.

Supz 12-11-2008 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XXXTV Claire (Post 15180942)

Firstly my business is mine and yours is yours

^ Big business right there


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