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PornHero 08-06-2009 12:43 PM

Which sponsors no longer make money for you?
 
I used to make decent money on the traffic I sent to the sponsors below - but not anymore. Most of these sponsors are now 0:4000 or worse with my traffic - use to average about 1:1000. :(

ARS - a sale once a season - if that.
PlatinumBucks - sales just died.
SpaCash - not sure what happened.
BlazingBucks - nice tours but no sales
Lightspeedcash - same old tours, what a waste
Kinkydollars - was one of my favorites
21centurycash - sales fail.
Gammacash - was great years ago
Hushmoney - never did as well as I thought it would with my traffic.
SpunkBucks - good tours but ZERO sales
Nichewealth - zero sales. 0 for 4:000.
ExtremePaychecks - sales are few & far between now.
TripleXcash - used to be solid for me, not anymore
STFUcash - pulled links long time ago

Sales with the above sponsors since the beginning of this year are virtually non-existent even though the same sites and links are sending the same type of traffic. I used to at least get a sale once in a while with each of them but now, nothing. zero, zilch, nada.

The bulk of my sales are now coming from the brandname site networks like BangBros, RealityKings, Pink Visual, Naughty America and smaller niche sponsors like ATKcash, Karups etc. :thumbsup

It seems to me that sponsors with mostly stale cookie-cutter sitetours and infrequent updates are all but dead. Time for me to pull some links!

Feel free to add to the list. Which sponsors no longer make money for you like they once did? :helpme

EvilFubAr 08-06-2009 01:49 PM

When was the last time you refreshed/updated your ARS links and promo? We launched and redesigned a ton of tours recently, and also came out with a fantastic cam program.


Other things we have recently done:
-Xsell free option
-New Niche RSS
-International Billing
-Better quality FHGs

Things going Live this week:
-New chat software on the join pages to capture more sales

teomaxxx 08-06-2009 01:53 PM

i had some old sites with juggcash, one of the worst converting sponsors (at the begging it was one of the best converting sponsors)

tranza 08-06-2009 01:53 PM

STFU Cash, TripleXCash and HushMoney are also on my list.

But I'd include TopBucks (which is a shame, since I used to send them almost 100 sales/month), RealityCash (it's a shame they don't poduce fresh content for Hardcore Partying anymore) and TCG.

:(

Fletch XXX 08-06-2009 01:54 PM

there are a good number of programs I used to make a good bit of money with that the numbers have dwindled to zeros, despite decent traffic still being sent....

wargames 08-06-2009 01:54 PM

I clean house every month with sponsors that don't update there tours are hurting bad these days.
Have you tried http://www.pornpros.com/index.php ?
Exclusive content
1 new site a month
Niches that convert
High PPS or Revshare

:thumbsup

Robocrop 08-06-2009 01:59 PM

Juggcash, Massive Dollars, and others I cannot mention..but there is a 1:7000 ratio.

kristin 08-06-2009 02:02 PM

What are you doing with your mobile traffic?

Vjo 08-06-2009 02:08 PM

As an affil I appreciate your post. I see the same trends. (Not with the same sites posted, a couple of them are doing well for me) For some reason a few progs keep delivering signups and a lot don't. I think it is some sort of mathematical/sociological thing where if you have 20 sponsors only say 5 will do well. But you need 20 to get the 5. :winkwink:

Generally only the very shiniest (big buck looking tours) or fresh new stuff in a niche convert. (But as I say that I can think of exceptions) There is no formula. But I do notice in retrospect my gut is usually right. That's what I'd go by.

How long to hang in there with a sponsor is a tough decision. I've seen more than one suddenly jump to life and suddenly conversions are ok again.

But, I hear ya.

pornguy 08-06-2009 02:08 PM

Nichewealth - zero sales. 0 for 4:000.
ExtremePaychecks - sales are few & far between now.
TripleXcash - used to be solid for me, not anymore
STFUcash - pulled links long time ago


Before you pulled the links and posted this, did you happen to chat with any of the affiliate managers from our Programs??

kristin 08-06-2009 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 16154395)
Nichewealth - zero sales. 0 for 4:000.
ExtremePaychecks - sales are few & far between now.
TripleXcash - used to be solid for me, not anymore
STFUcash - pulled links long time ago


Before you pulled the links and posted this, did you happen to chat with any of the affiliate managers from our Programs??

LOL, TripleXCash is in your sig.

kristin 08-06-2009 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kristin (Post 16154422)
LOL, TripleXCash is in your sig.

Oh I see what happened, no quotes. : )

PornHero 08-06-2009 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 16154395)
Nichewealth - zero sales. 0 for 4:000.
ExtremePaychecks - sales are few & far between now.
TripleXcash - used to be solid for me, not anymore
STFUcash - pulled links long time ago


Before you pulled the links and posted this, did you happen to chat with any of the affiliate managers from our Programs??

Unfortunately, like many people here, I deal with 100s of sponsors. I dont have time to contact every affiliate manager for every program that is not doing well. My years of experience with affiliate managers has shown that 99% of the time their advice doesnt significantly change my results. So I just move on to the next sponsor. :2 cents:

BTW I think your question should be the other way around: Did an affiliate manager contact me when they saw one of their longtime affiliates sending traffic and his conversions were dismal? That answer would be NO.:Oh crap

PornHero 08-06-2009 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kristin (Post 16154358)
What are you doing with your mobile traffic?

Hi Kristin, please ICQ me whenever u get a chance to talk about topbucks mobile #161550420 thanks :winkwink:

PornHero 08-06-2009 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EvilFubAr (Post 16154307)
When was the last time you refreshed/updated your ARS links and promo? We launched and redesigned a ton of tours recently, and also came out with a fantastic cam program.


Other things we have recently done:
-Xsell free option
-New Niche RSS
-International Billing
-Better quality FHGs

Things going Live this week:
-New chat software on the join pages to capture more sales

Hi Evil,

thanks for the reply. What are the best-selling sites for ARS so far in 2009?

Fletch XXX 08-06-2009 02:35 PM

I am glad to see others make these threads though. Keep the numbers coming...

kristin 08-06-2009 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornHero (Post 16154528)
Hi Kristin, please ICQ me whenever u get a chance to talk about topbucks mobile #161550420 thanks :winkwink:


Wow that was a fast denial on ICQ. : )

Hit me up: 147-945-440

PornHero 08-06-2009 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 16154331)
there are a good number of programs I used to make a good bit of money with that the numbers have dwindled to zeros, despite decent traffic still being sent....

C'mon Fletch, name some names! It would be good for webmasters to compare overall results with each other. :helpme I have a feeling some of these sponsors are still making money on our traffic from type-ins and tour leaks.

PornHero 08-06-2009 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kristin (Post 16154584)
Wow that was a fast denial on ICQ. : )

Hit me up: 147-945-440

Ok I just accepted you on ICQ :thumbsup

Karupted Charles 08-06-2009 02:56 PM

PornHero I am glad to see we still do well for you. We want to make sure we keep it that way, so please don't hesitate to him me or Jimmy up if you need anything.

Nicky 08-06-2009 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornHero (Post 16154514)
BTW I think your question should be the other way around: Did an affiliate manager contact me when they saw one of their longtime affiliates sending traffic and his conversions were dismal? That answer would be NO.:Oh crap

This is why you should not be allowed to be a rep unless you have decent prior affiliate background or if not that you should have good communication skills and be very much on top of things. All 3 makes a good rep though. Often you see rep's with none of them.

kristin 08-06-2009 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornHero (Post 16154654)
Ok I just accepted you on ICQ :thumbsup

Nice chatting with you, welcome to the wonderful world of TopBucksMobile!

kristin 08-06-2009 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranza (Post 16154327)
But I'd include TopBucks (which is a shame, since I used to send them almost 100 sales/month), RealityCash (it's a shame they don't poduce fresh content for Hardcore Partying anymore) and TCG.

:(

That is a shame and hurts my feelings. ; )

I looked up your account and hit you up on ICQ. Touch base with me, I have a few ideas that might help those conversions.

ICQ #: 147-945-440
kristin @ topbucks.com

FreeHugeMovies 08-06-2009 03:15 PM

Wait till the idiot reps come in here trying to save face.

Topbuxom Lea 08-06-2009 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kristin (Post 16154806)
Nice chatting with you, welcome to the wonderful world of TopBucksMobile!

Gosh Damn woman... you got most of the industry wrapped up in mobile....i know it's cuz yer puttin out. Got that push up bra and showin those titties :winkwink:

yummy

-L

Bangin 08-06-2009 03:33 PM

Here are just a few of mine from the shittiest converting ones to the better ones if you can call it that all are unique hits not raw hits....

OC Cash (since converting to nats4) - 1:10,251
Hundies 1:9,703
Hush Money - 1:3,849
Platinum Bucks - 0:3,278
Top Bucks - 1:3,651
Meat Cash - 1:3,351

Many others that 0:1,500 and above

Would Post the ones that are 1:200 to 1:700 but I would like to keep those at the current ratios.

kristin 08-06-2009 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bangin (Post 16154903)
Top Bucks - 1:3,651

Damn it! Shoot me your revid and I'll take a look ....

I'd always like a chance to see how we are being promoted, from what sites/niches, to what sites of ours you are promoting, etc. Allows me to offer suggestions, get you any tools you may need, and all that jazz.

jollyperv 08-06-2009 03:45 PM

Sponsors are most likely shaving more now and blaming it on the tubes.

EscortBiz 08-06-2009 03:47 PM

the surfer dont care how much you make per signup remember that, pick the sites you promote based on what will get you sales.

BradM 08-06-2009 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornHero (Post 16154514)
Unfortunately, like many people here, I deal with 100s of sponsors. I dont have time to contact every affiliate manager for every program that is not doing well. My years of experience with affiliate managers has shown that 99% of the time their advice doesnt significantly change my results. So I just move on to the next sponsor. :2 cents:

BTW I think your question should be the other way around: Did an affiliate manager contact me when they saw one of their longtime affiliates sending traffic and his conversions were dismal? That answer would be NO.:Oh crap

As an affiliate manager I approve of this post.

MovieMaster 08-06-2009 03:57 PM

80/20 Rule in effect...

20% of your sponsors generating 80% of your income.

RRACY 08-06-2009 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 16154331)
there are a good number of programs I used to make a good bit of money with that the numbers have dwindled to zeros, despite decent traffic still being sent....

What reasons can you give for this decline?

MaDalton 08-06-2009 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornHero (Post 16154514)
Unfortunately, like many people here, I deal with 100s of sponsors. I dont have time to contact every affiliate manager for every program that is not doing well. My years of experience with affiliate managers has shown that 99% of the time their advice doesnt significantly change my results. So I just move on to the next sponsor. :2 cents:

BTW I think your question should be the other way around: Did an affiliate manager contact me when they saw one of their longtime affiliates sending traffic and his conversions were dismal? That answer would be NO.:Oh crap

good post :2 cents:

Vjo 08-06-2009 04:32 PM

I'm 0 in 21,019 since 2-1-09 with one well known sponsor but, I had 5 sups in Jan so... overall I'm at like 1:5000 for the year.

That kind of shit will drive ya nuts.

Normally 20,000 is MY limit tho. I hate to pull em tho cause "I" like their sites and they get click thrus but they just stopped selling.

But someone said, that's the prob we wms are out of touch. You can't go with what "you" like I guess.

It all comes back to the 1950's Hoover vacuum cleaner saleman analogy I like.

You can only sell so many Hoovers in one neighborhood. :winkwink:

Vjo 08-06-2009 05:03 PM

That's why a smart affil has 200+ sponsors.

Noone can touch you. It is your greatest allie sole proprietors out there.

Diversity.

Schools out. Go and sin no more.

:)

CunningStunt 08-06-2009 05:06 PM

KINKYDOLLARS | KINK.com

PornHero 08-06-2009 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wargames (Post 16154333)
Have you tried http://www.pornpros.com/index.php ?
Exclusive content
1 new site a month
Niches that convert
High PPS or Revshare

:thumbsup

Hi wargames, I am doing well with Porn Pros. :thumbsup A solid program with high quality, unique content & dependable sales ratios. I love the most recent site additions. :)

RevShare it! 08-06-2009 05:31 PM

For your mobile traffic give us a try, the 1st mobile xxx sponsor: http://www.RevShareit.com

We will beat the revshare payout of other mobile sponsors.
And will make you more since we actually do work with all the top mobile devices.

White label tours available.

DateDoc 08-06-2009 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornHero (Post 16154514)
BTW I think your question should be the other way around: Did an affiliate manager contact me when they saw one of their longtime affiliates sending traffic and his conversions were dismal? That answer would be NO.:Oh crap

I was just about to say that. If the program doesn't care the affiliate is not making sales, on the same traffic when he was before, don't you think the company would want to know why as it may show systemic issues they need to correct. :2 cents:

Beanz 08-06-2009 05:33 PM

Our new sites and tours are doing great! Whitezilla, Extreme Ball Busters, Shameless Amatuers not to mention Shane's World Online which is part of Shanes World Cash

1:288 for all traffic and affiliates from jan1 - Aug 5th


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