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TurboAngel 08-17-2009 06:38 AM

To Breed or Not to Breed?
 
Well I went to the vet and he was upset that my pitt weighs 45 pounds and they won't fix her. My g/f has a male pitt who's absolutely beautiful, he's 85 pounds and blue. She's begging me to let him bang my dog for the pups. Part of me want's to breed her and part doesn't. My g/f paid $3,000 for hers and swears we'll have a bunch of blue pups, from what she says the blues can bring in better money.


My pup is only 5 months old so it looks as thoe she'll be 90 pounds.:Oh crap

TurboAngel 08-17-2009 06:40 AM

He looks like this but bigger.


http://www.brushcountrykennels.com/A...ll+Terrier.jpg

Jet - BANNED FOR LIFE 08-17-2009 06:46 AM

all pitts should be put down.

The Duck 08-17-2009 06:51 AM

Why was the vet upset?

TurboAngel 08-17-2009 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Jet (Post 16194472)
all pitts should be put down.

That's just crazzzzzzy, I have a dog trainer who comes every week. The male dog is allso a great dog. Not all pitts are bad.

Machete_ 08-17-2009 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jet (Post 16194472)
all pitts should be put down.

Agree .....

TurboAngel 08-17-2009 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by The Duck (Post 16194492)
Why was the vet upset?

He would have liked to fix her at 35 pound as they don't fix dogs over 35, I don't understand that but that's what he said.

Fletch XXX 08-17-2009 06:59 AM

breeders are responsible for so much animal pain its crazy... all they see is the dollar signs, not the forced reproduction they are doing to the female.

Fletch XXX 08-17-2009 07:02 AM

the reason i have this opinion is because i bought a tiny 7 or below pound mini pin female and the breeder wanted to charge me double price because she said "if I dont sell her for this much I will have to breed her X amount of times to make money" and I envisioned this little tiny thing being force raped for profit for the rest of her life.

i gave her the cash and swore id never forget that type of mindframe that accompanies those who breed dogs for money.

bronco67 08-17-2009 07:06 AM

So the only thing weighing heavy on your mind is what color the pups will be or how much money they'll get?

How about becoming part of the solution, and not bring more dogs into the world when the shelters are already overcrowded.

Oh, and I love Pits...

TurboAngel 08-17-2009 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 16194547)
So the only thing weighing heavy on your mind is what color the pups will be or how much money they'll get?

How about becoming part of the solution, and not bring more dogs into the world when the shelters are already overcrowded.

Oh, and I love Pits...

Nope, my g/f is who said that the blues would sell for more. I didn't get her to breed her. My g/f's dog is 5 and hasn't been fixed or laid so when she came over to see my pup she said OMG Tyson and her would have some great looking pups. I have become part of the solution as my friend owns a no kill shelter where I have donated food, toys and money.


:winkwink:

Ross 08-17-2009 07:41 AM

I wouldn't do it, generally I hear that female dog owners get all the money earned and male dog owners get 1 of the litter to sell. Thats how it is in the UK. Your friend is using you to get money, tell her to go buy her own female Pitt and breed them then.

Ross 08-17-2009 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by TurboAngel (Post 16194456)

And for the record, that dog looks pure evil. I hate Pitt Bulls, one tried to attack my Lab when he was a puppy on his first walk after I got him. Had to pick him up and run back inside my garden. The Pitt then ran onto the road and was hit by a car, it rolled over got back up and trotted off. The car was in a restricted speed zone and also hit the brakes so it didnt hit the Pitt too fast but still made me wonder wtf I would do it it managed to get to my puppy labrador.

Lace 08-17-2009 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by KrisH (Post 16194511)
Agree .....


Quote:

Originally Posted by Jet (Post 16194472)
all pitts should be put down.


Both of you are complete idiots. I fucking hate people who jump on the train.

It's all on how you are raised and brought up, just like kids. Kids in the ghetto drug infested areas are more likely to become involved more so then kids out in the sticks will. Not saying it doesn't happen out in the sticks but its far less likely.

I could raise a fighting chihuahua or poodle if I really wanted to. Just pitbulls are stocky, and pretty strong dogs.

I've had a pit mix, and it was the most loving dog ever. He used to nip, just like any puppy but was trained correctly and wouldn't hurt a fly now. He's almost 8 years old too, and hasn't had ONE issue. Beat it

TurboAngel 08-17-2009 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Lace (Post 16194693)
Both of you are complete idiots. I fucking hate people who jump on the train.

It's all on how you are raised and brought up, just like kids. Kids in the ghetto drug infested areas are more likely to become involved more so then kids out in the sticks will. Not saying it doesn't happen out in the sticks but its far less likely.

I could raise a fighting chihuahua or poodle if I really wanted to. Just pitbulls are stocky, and pretty strong dogs.

I've had a pit mix, and it was the most loving dog ever. He used to nip, just like any puppy but was trained correctly and wouldn't hurt a fly now. He's almost 8 years old too, and hasn't had ONE issue. Beat it


Thanks! People never hear about the smaller dogs attacking cuz people who have them don't think a bite from them is that bad.

Fletch XXX 08-17-2009 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Ross (Post 16194678)
that dog looks pure evil

just because a dog looks a certain way does not mean it is a vicious animal LOL :1orglaugh

your full grown lab could do as much damage to a child as any pitt

LadyMischief 08-17-2009 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by TurboAngel (Post 16194512)
He would have liked to fix her at 35 pound as they don't fix dogs over 35, I don't understand that but that's what he said.

Go to a different vet, that's retarded. My dogs got fixed when they were at 50 pounds already, as they had gone into their first heat a bit early and I had to wait it out. Turns out they both had an extra ovary, and it made their hormones rage harder, but you can get dogs fixed at ANY age.

I honestly wouldn't suggest breeding.. there are so many unwanted dogs in the world now, adding to the population of them just really isn't the responsible thing to do. If you do have purebred puppies, consider that you will have to pay their vet bills to have everything done etc etc until people can buy them, it can be really expensive.

LadyMischief 08-17-2009 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Lace (Post 16194693)
Both of you are complete idiots. I fucking hate people who jump on the train.

It's all on how you are raised and brought up, just like kids. Kids in the ghetto drug infested areas are more likely to become involved more so then kids out in the sticks will. Not saying it doesn't happen out in the sticks but its far less likely.

I could raise a fighting chihuahua or poodle if I really wanted to. Just pitbulls are stocky, and pretty strong dogs.

I've had a pit mix, and it was the most loving dog ever. He used to nip, just like any puppy but was trained correctly and wouldn't hurt a fly now. He's almost 8 years old too, and hasn't had ONE issue. Beat it

A good majority of dog attacks are done by small dogs.. little kids get down in their face, and owners of small dogs tend to not give them any kind of structure or discipline. ANY dog breed can be vicious, it is about how they are raised. Some of the nicest dogs I know are pits, and some of the worst I know are "friendly" breeds. It's more about the owners.

LadyMischief 08-17-2009 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by TurboAngel (Post 16194708)
Thanks! People never hear about the smaller dogs attacking cuz people who have them don't think a bite from them is that bad.

Ya until their kid's face gets ripped open by little frufru dog :P

fris 08-17-2009 08:01 AM

pitts are illegal here

Fletch XXX 08-17-2009 08:02 AM

example: picture taken by owner playing ball with lab

http://www.flickr.com/photos/43935390216@N01/138946992

LOL looks vicious, lets put all labs down!!! ;)

Lace 08-17-2009 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by LadyMischief (Post 16194732)
A good majority of dog attacks are done by small dogs.. little kids get down in their face, and owners of small dogs tend to not give them any kind of structure or discipline. ANY dog breed can be vicious, it is about how they are raised. Some of the nicest dogs I know are pits, and some of the worst I know are "friendly" breeds. It's more about the owners.

thank you!!! I wish more people in this world thought this way. :thumbsup

Ross 08-17-2009 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 16194718)
just because a dog looks a certain way does not mean it is a vicious animal LOL :1orglaugh

your full grown lab could do as much damage to a child as any pitt

I'd feel safer knowing my Labrador was around Children than any Pittbull alive.

Dirty Lord 08-17-2009 08:07 AM

i dont care!

Fletch XXX 08-17-2009 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Ross (Post 16194768)
I'd feel safer knowing my Labrador was around Children than any Pittbull alive.

thats only your opinion, NO CHILD should be allowed to be with big dogs unsupervised, your hatred for a pitbull has nothing to do with the facts that labradors can kill too. You are like someone who got beat up by a white guy once and then hates all whtes afterwards. you just feel that one breed deserves unjust treatment for being born a certain breed while promoting the acceptance of another breed.

amusing, but hardly factual.

Ross 08-17-2009 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 16194748)
example: picture taken by owner playing ball with lab

http://www.flickr.com/photos/43935390216@N01/138946992

LOL looks vicious, lets put all labs down!!! ;)

Get real dude. Pittbulls are a bad breed of dogs. How many threads has there been on GFY in the last year about Pitts attacking dogs or people? And thats just GFY.

I was in Vegas in January and AaronM invited me over to his house, his dog Cayman was there, beautiful Golden Labrador who is now a changed dog since he was almost killed by Pittbulls. No one will ever convince me that these dogs are good.

Infact I was at the vet with my Golden Labrador 5 weeks ago just for a check up when a man and woman come in the room yelling at everyone to move their dogs. This was her exact words "Move those dogs, he bites" Talking about her own Pitt. She yelled it as if it was the other dogs fault. The vet took it right into the private room, it was being destroyed as it bit 6 people. The Vet came back out and I asked whats up there, he's like its being destroyed, it just even had a go at me there. Say what you will, they're not good dogs.

grumpy 08-17-2009 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 16194718)
just because a dog looks a certain way does not mean it is a vicious animal LOL :1orglaugh

your full grown lab could do as much damage to a child as any pitt

true, but 99% less change the lab will do that.

Fletch XXX 08-17-2009 08:13 AM

since i always back up what i say with news articles:

http://www.dogmagazine.net/archives/...uppy-is-named/

baby killed by lab "puppy".

Machete_ 08-17-2009 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lace (Post 16194693)
Both of you are complete idiots. I fucking hate people who jump on the train.

It's all on how you are raised and brought up, just like kids. Kids in the ghetto drug infested areas are more likely to become involved more so then kids out in the sticks will. Not saying it doesn't happen out in the sticks but its far less likely.

I could raise a fighting chihuahua or poodle if I really wanted to. Just pitbulls are stocky, and pretty strong dogs.

I've had a pit mix, and it was the most loving dog ever. He used to nip, just like any puppy but was trained correctly and wouldn't hurt a fly now. He's almost 8 years old too, and hasn't had ONE issue. Beat it

Shut up idiot - you know nothing about big dogs

The fact that you compare them with humans and completely neglect the difference in the nature of the different races, just prove you know ZERO about dogs or animals

Its because of morons like you, who think a pitt look cool and think it can be trained like any other dogs, that the dogshelters are full of them. It's all fun and games untill they become a 12-15 months, and then the problems start

Fletch XXX 08-17-2009 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Ross (Post 16194790)
Get real dude.

I didnt read your novel above im just saying...

http://www.dogmagazine.net/archives/...uppy-is-named/

see above and then spew more nonsense LOL

I dont own pitts, but I dont see why we should euthanise them all...

Ross 08-17-2009 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 16194779)
thats only your opinion, NO CHILD should be allowed to be with big dogs unsupervised, your hatred for a pitbull has nothing to do with the facts that labradors can kill too. You are like someone who got beat up by a white guy once and then hates all whtes afterwards. you just feel that one breed deserves unjust treatment for being born a certain breed while promoting the acceptance of another breed.

amusing, but hardly factual.

Well one thing I agree with you on is no child should be left unsupervised with any dog big or small. Your arguement against me and pittbulls isn't true. First hand experience of these dogs has always been bad. I've never came across a Pittbull which is a good dog. Granted I've only ever come across 5-6 pitts but all of them have had a go at my dog, or the owners have told me to keep my dog the hell away, or they have muzzles on. You are right I just don't like that breed of dog, but thats because for the most part (in my experience) they are a bad breed. End of. You won't change my mind, I don't expect you to try either. I'll never trust a Pittbull in my life. My Labrador I trust 100% but again let me reiterate, I would NEVER leave him unattended with kids/children either, its irresponsible as a pet owner.

Fletch XXX 08-17-2009 08:17 AM

im not even reading all that wall of text dude, not trying to argue, but you people who want to kill off certain breeds of animals make me laugh.


if we killed all breeds who kill babies, you wouldnt be able to own that lab... just saying LOL

im done, got work to do not argue with people who want to exterminate breeds of animals because they own a different kind when all of them kill LOL

Ross 08-17-2009 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 16194799)
I didnt read your novel above im just saying...

http://www.dogmagazine.net/archives/...uppy-is-named/

see above and then spew more nonsense LOL

I dont own pitts, but I dont see why we should euthanise them all...

First time I ever heard of that. However I could google pitt attacks and come back at you with a hundred examples. But its no use arguing with you, I forgot you are always right.

Jet - BANNED FOR LIFE 08-17-2009 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lace (Post 16194693)
Both of you are complete idiots. I fucking hate people who jump on the train.

It's all on how you are raised and brought up, just like kids.

Yeah, I'd like to see you raising a grizzly bear.


A vicious animal remains an animal no matter how you bring him up. It's in his DNA to kill. And pitts have been bred specifically for that.

Jet - BANNED FOR LIFE 08-17-2009 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lace (Post 16194693)
I've had a pit mix, and it was the most loving dog ever. He used to nip, just like any puppy but was trained correctly and wouldn't hurt a fly now. He's almost 8 years old too, and hasn't had ONE issue. Beat it

Wait till he snaps some kid's neck. You'll sing another tune.

Fletch XXX 08-17-2009 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Ross (Post 16194809)
I forgot you are always right.

Its not about being right!

I am saying, if it was up to the family who had their baby killed, you would NOT BE ALLOWED TO OWN a labrador, why cant you grasp that? LOL
:1orglaugh

seriously, i have no beef with you, this is just hilarious... your puppy was "almost attacked" and you want to kill all pitts, a baby was killed and yet you think labs are better.,... BUAHAHA

Ross 08-17-2009 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 16194808)
im not even reading all that wall of text dude, not trying to argue, but you people who want to kill off certain breeds of animals make me laugh.


if we killed all breeds who kill babies, you wouldnt be able to own that lab... just saying LOL

im done, got work to do not argue with people who want to exterminate breeds of animals because they own a different kind when all of them kill LOL

I never said kill the breed once. Please stop making things up. You are right its my opinion, I chose not to like them. If people want to own them so be it, I just wouldn't own one or ever wish a family member or friend to own one.

Lace 08-17-2009 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by KrisH (Post 16194796)
Shut up idiot - you know nothing about big dogs

The fact that you compare them with humans and completely neglect the difference in the nature of the different races, just prove you know ZERO about dogs or animals

Its because of morons like you, who think a pitt look cool and think it can be trained like any other dogs, that the dogshelters are full of them. It's all fun and games untill they become a 12-15 months, and then the problems start

Yeah, I don't know anything. I've been around plenty of 'big dogs', owned a pitbull, best friend had an american bulldog who's blood line has won many competitions, and I own a Husky myself...but I know nothing.

:1orglaugh

Keep making yourself look like a tool.

Ross 08-17-2009 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 16194816)
Its not about being right!

I am saying, if it was up to the family who had their baby killed, you would NOT BE ALLOWED TO OWN a labrador, why cant you grasp that? LOL
:1orglaugh

seriously, i have no beef with you, this is just hilarious... your puppy was "almost attacked" and you want to kill all pitts, a baby was killed and yet you think labs are better.,... BUAHAHA

And I have no beef with you, again tho I never once said all Pittbulls should be killed off. I stated that I don't like them and listed reasons/experiences why I don't. AGAIN, I never said kill them all.

Lace 08-17-2009 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Ross (Post 16194809)
First time I ever heard of that. However I could google pitt attacks and come back at you with a hundred examples. But its no use arguing with you, I forgot you are always right.

Here, in plain English for you again -

PITS ARE USED SINCE THEY ARE STOCKIER AND STRONG DOGS. ITS JUST LIKE YOU IDIOTS, PEOPLE JUMP ON THE TRAIN. START A FUCKING CLAN OF FUCKING ATTACK POODLES AND SEE HOW MANY FOLLOW.


I'm done posting in this thread. I should have expected this from GFY anyway. Focus on making money since you obviously have no clue about dogs.


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