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F-U-Jimmy 08-25-2009 09:49 PM

If we can do this now how long before Models and Actors are obsolete ?
 
Built in Lightwave 9.5

http://www.anicepair.com/images/jolie.jpg

joefriday 08-25-2009 09:51 PM

Holy fuckin christ , now that is life like , wow , I'm blown away. :)

Iron Fist 08-25-2009 09:53 PM

Good luck... probably took way more time than having some hottie actually stand there and get her pic taken.

baddog 08-25-2009 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by sharphead (Post 16236211)
Good luck... probably took way more time than having some hottie actually stand there and get her pic taken.

But factor in the cost and the missed appointments.

F-U-Jimmy 08-25-2009 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by sharphead (Post 16236211)
Good luck... probably took way more time than having some hottie actually stand there and get her pic taken.

Of course it did but once you have the file all you need do is animate it :thumbsup and if you need her to come back to do a different shoot no model fees plus she never ages

bronco67 08-25-2009 10:01 PM

I'm working on this very type of thing....

I don't think it will ever replace the real thing, but people can get turned on by stick figure drawings, if done right.

Joe King 08-25-2009 10:01 PM

I wish someone would "Lightwave" those lips around my cock.
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Jon Oso 08-25-2009 10:02 PM

no AIM testing, no 2257 docs, no kill-fees, no wasted days due to male talent failing, and everyone will take 50 black dicks in the butt.

sweet.

F-U-Jimmy 08-25-2009 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 16236228)
I'm working on this very type of thing....

I don't think it will ever replace the real thing, but people can get turned on by stick figure drawings, if done right.

You must agree she looks way better than a stick figure and im sure many people would think that was Jolie if i had not explained it was made in Lightwave ?

F-U-Jimmy 08-25-2009 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Jon Oso (Post 16236232)
no AIM testing, no 2257 docs, no kill-fees, no wasted days due to male talent failing, and everyone will take 50 black dicks in the butt.

sweet.

Like the way you think :1orglaugh

bronco67 08-25-2009 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by F-U-Jimmy (Post 16236233)
You must agree she looks way better than a stick figure and im sure many people would think that was Jolie if i had not explained it was made in Lightwave ?

You're right...most people wouldn't know. But there's stuff that looks even realer than that. Problem is, the people with the talent to achieve that ultra realism are working for mainstream Hollywood, not porn.

JD 08-26-2009 02:07 AM

initial cost might be higher, but once she's done, you can do 500 scenes with her with no more cash out the door... Only problem with it though... imo... is people will get VERY carried away with it and it'll be like watching a "real" hentai flick :X

AdultHardcore 08-26-2009 02:16 AM

That is cool!!

kane 08-26-2009 03:41 AM

While that is impressive I don't know that stuff like that will ever fully fly. The reason is that while it looks amazing, it lacks soul. I don't mean that in a religious way, just in a way that there is no life to stuff like that. Sure, one picture can look amazing, the hard part is the video. The reason many movies work (especially dramas and comedies) is that you connect with the characters. If it is not 100% real it will seem fake and it is very hard to connect to something fake. There are always exceptions to the rule ( like a lot of the Pixar movies have cartoons you connect with and some movies have CG characters you enjoy and connect with), but overall it will be very difficult to make something completely CG that seems so real you could connect with it time and time again.

The same can be said for porn. Good porn is about the sound and the facial expressions and sweat and movement. It makes you feel like you are there or you connect with the people in it and get turned on. It will pretty hard to duplicate that type of thing. It is also about the fantasy of being with the girl in it. I can watch Jenna Haze and get turned on because I can have the fantasy of hooking up with her. If I knew she was CG - no matter how good it was - then that fantasy is dead.

I think of it like this. It is the difference between having sex with something like a blow up doll or a fleshlight and having sex with a real woman. The toy might feel good and get the job done, but it is pale in comparison.

Still, that is cool picture and whoever did it is very talented.

mikeyddddd 08-26-2009 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 16236228)
I'm working on this very type of thing....

I don't think it will ever replace the real thing, but people can get turned on by stick figure drawings, if done right.


Raf1 08-26-2009 03:48 AM

that picture is very nicely done. Amazing work :thumbsup

RadicalSights 08-26-2009 03:58 AM

Do you have any idea how much doing something like that would cost?

You could pay up to $10,000 for one high quality model fully textured, rigged, motion capture animated.

High end 3D is not cheap. That's why video games cost millions to produce. The art is ridiculuosly expensive to make.

quantum-x 08-26-2009 05:13 AM


justinsain 08-26-2009 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by F-U-Jimmy (Post 16236233)
You must agree she looks way better than a stick figure and im sure many people would think that was Jolie if i had not explained it was made in Lightwave ?

That is meant to be Jolie so what's the difference whether it's done with a camera, paint brush on canvas or using Lightwave 9.5 on a computer. Each method has the same purpose and that is to reproduce a likeness of the original which in this case is a model and actor.

With that said, this is amazing and I can't wait to see that much realism in video games and I'm sure it will be cool in a few feature films but I think people still desire real over fake people and people that are fake.

The reason why celebrity gossip is so big is people want to know and identify with real celebrities. If you make a poll on here asking " real or fake tits " the majority will say they prefer real tits. People just prefer real over fake.

So to answer your question I don't think this will replace all models and actors but it might change the way they work. The day it does is the day mankind has lost touch with it's self and reality.

The Duck 08-26-2009 08:18 AM

http://i26.tinypic.com/314uzpu.jpg

GetSCORECash 08-26-2009 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by justinsain (Post 16237465)
So to answer your question I don't think this will replace all models and actors but it might change the way they work. The day it does is the day mankind has lost touch with it's self and reality.

It's not going to replace actors, as the studios will need someone to base the characters on, but the actors don't ever have to age. It's all going to be about voice-overs, not how the actor actually looks.

Vicious_B 08-26-2009 08:46 AM

Its amazing technology but I have to admit there is the potential for abuse.

Yo Adrian 08-26-2009 08:47 AM

Damn that's realistic! Incredible work.

Scott McD 08-26-2009 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by F-U-Jimmy (Post 16236202)

Hotter than the real deal tbh.


http://www.inquisitr.com/wp-content/angelina-jolie1.jpg

Deesnuts 08-26-2009 09:29 AM

wow amazin

tranza 08-26-2009 10:01 AM

I would say 5 years...

MakingItPay 08-26-2009 10:26 AM

That is beautiful. However, as I can attest, it doesn't have to be that lifelike to be effective. If you can laugh at the family guy and southpark you can get off to cartoon pron. see: THRILLBUCK$ :winkwink:

Vicious_B 08-26-2009 10:28 AM

Does anyone think that this could be abused by people using it to create what would be illegal with real people?

Machete_ 08-26-2009 10:29 AM

it will never happen. The human relation is missing, and the general public will not replace it with the real thing. Its like saying people would stop fucking because you can get a fleshlight that feels real.

Machete_ 08-26-2009 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicksMichele (Post 16238004)
Does anyone think that this could be abused by people using it to create what would be illegal with real people?

Already seen people doing that... since forever. Violence and otherwise illegal acts, such as Age and specie related crimes

PornHero 08-26-2009 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by F-U-Jimmy (Post 16236236)
Like the way you think :1orglaugh

Looks awesome :thumbsup but if you want to REALLY impress us lightwave a nice sticky cumshot right across the bridge of her nose :love2suck now that I would pay to see.

Vicious_B 08-26-2009 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by KrisH (Post 16238020)
Already seen people doing that... since forever. Violence and otherwise illegal acts, such as Age and specie related crimes

But that is with animation right? The way more realistic aspect of this would be a whole other level. I just wonder if legally they could use the fact that its not "real" as a loophole.

Machete_ 08-26-2009 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicksMichele (Post 16238106)
But that is with animation right? The way more realistic aspect of this would be a whole other level. I just wonder if legally they could use the fact that its not "real" as a loophole.

They cant. (in most countries at least)

seen under**ed, beast and murder 3d work that was to realistic, and portrying those things in any form (2d, 3d or whatever format) can get you in trouble

ShellyCrash 08-26-2009 12:18 PM

http://www.filmdope.com/Gallery/ActorsV/17529-17920.gif

No!!! Not her old nose! You animals!

lyno 08-26-2009 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicksMichele (Post 16238004)
Does anyone think that this could be abused by people using it to create what would be illegal with real people?

Isn't it the same with movies? I mean, Hollywood does so all the time.
Take the Hannibal Lecter movies as example. It's ok when Hannibal
does it in a movie but when i play around with the idea it's a thought crime?

http://www.sadistictoons.com/out/hlector2.jpg

On topic: I think it's unavoidable but still a very long way. Nothing that will happen within
a few years. Realistic stills are one thing, realistic movements (skin, muscles, hair, facial
expression.... ) something very different and there still is the Uncanny Valley.
Ok, i don't think real actors will become obsolete but they will have to coexist with virtual stars.

bronco67 08-27-2009 09:10 AM

Here's some tests from my "human" project. Mine's going to involve some crazy shit that can't be done in real video. I don't see the point of making CG animated porn, if it's just stuff that could be shot in real life.

http://a.imagehost.org/0889/face_00000.jpg

http://h.imagehost.org/0085/face_00001.jpg


http://a.imagehost.org/0803/face_00002.jpg


http://a.imagehost.org/0607/face_00003.jpg


http://a.imagehost.org/0415/face_00004.jpg

Rochard 08-27-2009 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by KrisH (Post 16238009)
it will never happen. The human relation is missing, and the general public will not replace it with the real thing. Its like saying people would stop fucking because you can get a fleshlight that feels real.

It's already happening. Half the shit you see in movies is computer generated these days anyhow. I see a time where this will become so life like that no one will be able to tell the difference.

lyno 08-27-2009 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 16241489)
Here's some tests from my "human" project. Mine's going to involve some crazy shit that can't be done in real video. I don't see the point of making CG animated porn, if it's just stuff that could be shot in real life.

Love that transpiring texture, looks great. Did you create it yourself? What raytracer did
you use for that pics? Subsurface scattering?

"I don't see the point of making CG animated porn, if it's just stuff that could be shot in
real life" :thumbsup

What is the topic of your project? (or is it a secret?)

bronco67 08-27-2009 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by lyno (Post 16242120)
Love that transpiring texture, looks great. Did you create it yourself? What raytracer did
you use for that pics? Subsurface scattering?

"I don't see the point of making CG animated porn, if it's just stuff that could be shot in
real life" :thumbsup

What is the topic of your project? (or is it a secret?)

Not a total secret, or anything, but I don't talk about it much(for dumb superstitious reasons). It's sci-fi themed, and involves about 20 hotties gangbanging this guy in a mech suit, on a space-station. If all goes as planned, it'll be HD and in 3d(glasses), and have animation at the same level as Hollywood releases.

I was using Mental Ray for rendering up until a few weeks ago, but have been using Modo(these shots) and love the speed boost, and crispness of the renders.

sandman! 08-27-2009 01:12 PM

give it a few more years..


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